Is kakashi's kamui still an OP jutsu?

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EZQ

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Without kurama's chakra, kakashi can do the following actions:

- Kamui a fast raiton kunai

- Kamui Gedo mazo's head

- Kamui a rasengan

- Kamui a BM clone , fast enough to obito, with RINNENGAN and MS he didn't see the kamui.

- OR: Warp something as big as 1/3 of a bijuu twice. Saying that he can still one shot a susanoo user IF susanoo doesn't atack first.

* Still being an instant atack
* Still can be used several times
* Can be used on large things as: 5 small things/3 human sized things/ 1 thng of almost half of bijuu size.

Do you think this is still an OP jutsu?
 

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yeah but he can only do One against something as big/fast as Sasuke's arrow.

People seem to forget that Obito and Madara saying something about having both Sharingans near each other in order for the user to unlock its true potential.
 

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Even without the Kyubi's extra Chakra, Kamui still remains, arguably, the most over-powered Mangekyo technique.​
 

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Yes Kamui is one of the best MS techniques and yes even without kuubi's chakra Kakashi can use it good enough.
But Kakashi is so much more than his kamui,making such a fuss about only one technique results in underrating him overall as a ninja and as a character.
 

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Nope, due to it's drawbacks, all one has to do is force him into using kamui on something 1/3 the size of a bijuu and then it's over for him, it is powerful, but it's got way too much strain on him when fighting solely 1 on 1. when kakashi is part of a group however, he is indeed just as OP as ppl make him out to be.
 

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yeah but he can only do One against something as big/fast as Sasuke's arrow.

People seem to forget that Obito and Madara saying something about having both Sharingans near each other in order for the user to unlock its true potential.

The actual quote is that one must wield both Sharingan to unleash their full potential. It says nothing about proximity.
Kamui is an OP tech but it's very dangerous for Kakashi to spam it without Kyuubi chakra because he will run out of his own and die. Wish they'd do that to all Sharingan techs whether they're used by Uchiha's or not.
 

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Of course it's still overpowered. Not because he can't warp a Bijuu at once reduce the power of his kamui since there are only 9Bijuus in the world. Normal humans still can be warped by kamui instantly. Everyone denying it are denying with the manga
 

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Nope, due to it's drawbacks, all one has to do is force him into using kamui on something 1/3 the size of a bijuu and then it's over for him, it is powerful, but it's got way too much strain on him when fighting solely 1 on 1. when kakashi is part of a group however, he is indeed just as OP as ppl make him out to be.
Well last time I checked there weren't many character that can use a jutsu that will force Kakashi to kamui something in the 1/3 the size of bijuu.
 

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yes there is no defence against it other then blinding speed i guess
 

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Well last time I checked there weren't many character that can use a jutsu that will force Kakashi to kamui something in the 1/3 the size of bijuu.

explosive tags would easily enable someone to force kakashi into over exerting kamui.
 

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explosive tags would easily enable someone to force kakashi into over exerting kamui.
Doton->doryuheki or hiding like a mole,suiton->suijinheki easy counter for explosive tags.
Once again,Kakashi doesn't only have kamui.
 

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Doton->doryuheki or hiding like a mole,suiton->suijinheki easy counter for explosive tags.
Once again,Kakashi doesn't only have kamui.

but the fact is that a person can use explosions, ala deidara style to cause him to use up his limited amount of kamui time.
 

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but the fact is that a person can use explosions, ala deidara style to cause him to use up his limited amount of kamui time.
Of course they can (even though the only character with such jutsu,Deidara, is long dead).But still hiding like a mole or a water/earth wall can counter this kind of attacks.Kakashi only used kamui with Deidara because the where other people there and they wouldn't manage to get away.I am not implying that kamui is unbeatable but it is a really strong dojutsu tech.And I strongly disagree with your statement that Kakashi is not good on 1vs1.But that's just my opinion.
 

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but the fact is that a person can use explosions, ala deidara style to cause him to use up his limited amount of kamui time.

The fact you're saying that kakashi can't handle deidara wihtout kamui is underrating him, kakashi can use lightining, wich is the worst matchup for deidara.
 

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The fact you're saying that kakashi can't handle deidara wihtout kamui is underrating him, kakashi can use lightining, wich is the worst matchup for deidara.

kakashi was already hospitalized by an explosion from just 1 suicide clone, all I'm saying is that kamui can be used against kakashi as well
 

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kakashi was already hospitalized by an explosion from just 1 suicide clone, all I'm saying is that kamui can be used against kakashi as well

That was his 3rd kamui and he used it in a bis explosion.

Now he was able to use 5 kamuis before getting chakra and he could warp things instantly, it's a different kakashi that we're talking about
 

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That was his 3rd kamui and he used it in a bis explosion.

Now he was able to use 5 kamuis before getting chakra and he could warp things instantly, it's a different kakashi that we're talking about

but all I am saying is with knowledge of the tech, you can avoid it and actually use it against him, as evidenced by his kamui of Sasuke's arrow.
 

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but all I am saying is with knowledge of the tech, you can avoid it and actually use it against him, as evidenced by his kamui of Sasuke's arrow.

yeah sure, but kamui is the 2nd fastes technique we've seen, before anyone is making something big enough kakahsi can warp him away, don't orget kamui is instant, kakashi can use it 3-4-5 times.
 
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