Is Kakashi Not So Great Without The Sharingan?

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He felt that he required the Sharingan for a fight against hyper-early Part 2 Naruto and Sakura. Why? Would he have lost to them otherwise?
 

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He was promoted to Jounin at a young age. What do you think?
 

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Because they were strong
 

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He was promoted to Jounin at a young age. What do you think?

And yet he couldn't defeat Zabuza, a jonin, without the sharingan, and couldn't take Naruto and Sakura, two chunnin level shinobi without it.

OT: If he had lived without it, he would probably be around Gai's level in skill. However the second he was given the sharingan, he became 100% dependent on it.
 

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I wouldn't say that. The manga has proven that one needs speed and reflexes to react in time for Sharingan's Pre-Cog. Similarly, he's the most well-rounded Ninja - capable of using following elements Raiton, Doton, Suiton, capable of tailing, setting traps, good at Taijutsu and close quarters combat in general, great strategy maker etc. That would be an untrue assessment.
 

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It's like saying why would Sasuke needs to fight Sakura and Naruto with his Sharingan. He's great. Sakura improved her taijutsu so Kakashi needed toread her movements and Naruto could use lots of shadow clones
 

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And yet he couldn't defeat Zabuza, a jonin, without the sharingan, and couldn't take Naruto and Sakura, two chunnin level shinobi without it.

OT: If he had lived without it, he would probably be around Gai's level in skill. However the second he was given the sharingan, he became 100% dependent on it.

It is just a tool like any other weapon such as a kunia knife (etc).
 

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Still an extremely skilled ninja, just not top 15 materal
 

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And yet he couldn't defeat Zabuza, a jonin, without the sharingan, and couldn't take Naruto and Sakura, two chunnin level shinobi without it.

OT: If he had lived without it, he would probably be around Gai's level in skill. However the second he was given the sharingan, he became 100% dependent on it.

This is what I was thinking.

There's nothing wrong with taking advantage of it, but he became too dependent on it.
 

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He was promoted to Jounin at a young age. What do you think?

That happened because of war.
 

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It is just a tool like any other weapon such as a kunia knife (etc).

Yes. Exactly. You are right, it is a tool. However, without this tool, Kakashi isn't nearly jonin level. Perhaps he would have been had he never acquired it, but he's become too dependent on it to be considered a jonin without it.
 

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He is basically Asuma without it. Strong, but not that strong.
 

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Yes. Exactly. You are right, it is a tool. However, without this tool, Kakashi isn't nearly jonin level. Perhaps he would have been had he never acquired it, but he's become too dependent on it to be considered a jonin without it.

You can use this argument for any other character as well. Say Itachi.
 

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He just didn't want to underestimate them. The dude became Jonin when he was around Naruto's age in Part 1. So that alone says it all.
 

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no kumai or 1,000 justus.

BUt you have to give him the white fangs blade
 
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