Is Itachi the Second Strongest Konoha Shinobi ever?

[new sage of 6 paths]

Obito purposefully avoided fighting Itachi. Kishimoto showed as much in the movie he wrote.

Obito stayed away from Itachi, and said that if Itachi knew his secrets, he'd certainly die.

It's obvious that he was cautious of the boy/man who constantly amazed him.

Nope,that movie proves nothing!
If a fight ensued,itachi would have sImply entered the battlefied with the Mindset of Obito's technique...Only that he doesn't know Obito's secret and is at a disadvantage.even if he knew,what can he do If he can't even touch him?

 

[Lilt]

Nope,that movie proves nothing!
If a fight ensued,itachi would have sImply entered the battlefied with the Mindset of Obito's technique...Only that he doesn't know Obito's secret and is at a disadvantage.even if he knew,what can he do If he can't even touch him?

In the movie, Itachi immediately deduced as much.

Itachi: "Physical attacks won't work on someone like him. But still, there is a way... [activates Sharingan]"

Obito: "I see that you're a troublesome person here, too... [warps away]"

The implication is fairly clear from Kishimoto, as it always has been.

 

[Dark Slayer]

Wow some people actually believe Itachi > Current Madara? Heck even EMS Madara?

Forgot to mention BM Naruto is above Itachi as well.

 

[Bogard]

No he isn't. Naruto is stronger. Hashirama also. EMS Sasuke as well. In fact i get the feeling that the revived 4Hokages are all above Itachi in strength(it's said they have the strength to take control of this war by Suigetsu, who call them the strongest zombie, so above Itachi or Nagato for example). Maybe even current Orochimaru

 

[Draphsin]

In the movie, Itachi immediately deduced as much.

Itachi: "Physical attacks won't work on someone like him. But still, there is a way... [activates Sharingan]"

Obito: "I see that you're a troublesome person here, too... [warps away]"

The implication is fairly clear from Kishimoto, as it always has been.

Stop using the movie as canon, its not real, it has nothing to do with the original manga regardless if kishi wrote it or not U_U

And anyways even if you do take that as canon (which its not), what obito says still proves nothing about obito being weaker than Itachi. Obito is just wary of his intelligence.

Look what obito says in the manga here:

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Canon manga shows obito saying that "its regrettable to have you as an opponent", does that mean shikamaru > obito? I dont think so...

 

[Bogard]

In the movie, Itachi immediately deduced as much.

Itachi: "Physical attacks won't work on someone like him. But still, there is a way... [activates Sharingan]"

Obito: "I see that you're a troublesome person here, too... [warps away]"

The implication is fairly clear from Kishimoto, as it always has been.

Regardless of the fact it isn't even canon, i hope you realise that Obito had no body in that dimension. He was limited as hell

 

[Draphsin]

If you read what I wrote, then that's obviously incorrect.

The Obito in that movie is the Obito in the manga, written by the author.

The Itachi is illusory, but Obito clearly correlates him to the real Itachi, and retreats.

Case closed. That's the closesly you'll ever get to Kishi directly commenting on the two battling.

Read what i wrote after that if youre going to take that as an excuse U_U

 

[Lilt]

Stop using the movie as canon, its not real, it has nothing to do with the original manga regardless if kishi wrote it or not U_U

If you read what I wrote, then you know that's incorrect.

The Obito in that movie is the Obito in the manga, written by the author.

The Itachi is illusory, but Obito clearly correlates him to the real Itachi before retreating.

Case closed. That's the closest you'll ever get to Kishi directly commenting on the two battling.

Other than that, we have:

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And Itachi calling Obito a pathetic shadow (of EMS Madara.)

Prior to the Rinnegan, the author's opinion is just overwhelmingly obvious...

Obito never dared to fight Itachi, because Itachi constantly amazed him.

 

[Lilt]

Canon manga shows obito saying that "its regrettable to have you as an opponent", does that mean shikamaru > obito? I dont think so...

That's not what Obito said about Itachi, so the point is moot.

Plus that's Rinnegan Obito with 7 tailed beasts being controlled.

He's obviously stronger than Itachi in that scenario.

 

[Draphsin]

That's not what Obito said about Itachi, so the point is moot.

Plus that's Rinnegan Obito with 7 tailed beasts being controlled.

He's obviously stronger than Itachi in that scenario.

Point is not moot, i proved you wrong and you deny it

Obito clearly said something that implied shikamaru was a "regrettable" opponent. If you look at the dictionary, regrettable is worse than troublesome, which is what he calls Itachi.

So the point that because obito spoke wearily of Itachi, therefore he is weaker than him is completely invalid as a stronger version of himself spoke the same way about shikamaru...

So by your logic: shikamaru > rinnegan obito U_U

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[new sage of 6 paths]

Seriously,with feats and all,obito beats itachi handsdown!
Infact obito is itachi's worst matchup!
Senju cell,
Kamui
Mokuton
Stamina
This Abilities when compared to itachi's are what he lacks!
Itachi is sick,He has no stamina,has low chakra.
That's why he was partnered with kisame in the first place!

 

[AGoodBoy]

He probably is. Only ninja who could take him on are hashi and possibly minato(because of FTG and summons - but that's still a small chance). Other than that, you'd need to start looking at rogue ninja and non-konoha ninja (Orochimaru with ET, Obito, Nagato/Pain, Madara).

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

He probably is. Only ninja who could take him on are hashi and possibly minato(because of FTG and summons - but that's still a small chance). Other than that, you'd need to start looking at rogue ninja and non-konoha ninja (Orochimaru with ET, Obito, Nagato/Pain, Madara).

Lol,that Itachi? U serious?
The one that can barely pull out 1 mangeykou sharingan tech without gasping for air?
The itachi who likes ending a a fight very quickly,becasue he doesn't have the chakra,endurance,stamina,durability for a prolonged battle....I see...
Nice thoughts by the way!

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lol,that Itachi? U serious?
The one that can barely pull out 1 mangeykou sharingan tech without gasping for air?
The itachi who likes ending a a fight very quickly,becasue he doesn't have the chakra,endurance,stamina,durability for a prolonged battle....I see...
Nice thoughts by the way!

To be able to do that you have to be skilled. You just derailed your entire post, GJ.

Btw, Itachi doesn't always resort to MS, and yet he's able to take down most ninja. He has had his sharingan for years without going blind and he's skilled in all aspects - ninjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu, speed, intelligence, so it's not like he dies without MS. MS just ends everyone's shit quickly because, like you said, he doesn't like drawn out fights.

 

[Takos]

Short answer: no.

Long answer:
There are so many shinobi stronger than Itachi from Konoha:
-Hashirama
-Madara
-Obito
-Minato
-Naruto
and Kakashi and Guy are on a similar level.

 

[Nagato The Sage]

lol no.


Itachi>>>>Naruto
Itachi>Minato
Itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke

Don't be a fanboy. Naruto stomps Itachi and Sasuke beats him in his EMS form.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

I stopped at Ms ends all shit quickly!
Itachi is dead,that Means while others got stronger,He remained stagnant!
Most characters Beats him,its Like you aint even reading the manga!
You know itachi Has low chakra,Is very sick,lacks stamina,bleeds like hell when he pulls out susanno or Amaterasu,Is even Nearly blind,Wtf
And you thought because he's Intelligent and all,he's still strong enough,when Infact he lost his whole power to his illness,Wtf!
Intelligence Only take you half way,having the power to back it Up helps......
Let him Have a drawn out battle with either hashi or Naruto....the chakra/stamina Monsters,I will see how he fares!

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Don't be a fanboy. Naruto stomps Itachi and Sasuke beats him in his EMS form.

epic sig..

 

[naruttebayo]

might guy could have killed him when he invaded konoha and tsukyomied kakashi lol
lucky for him he could escape.

 

[Takos]

Obito purposefully avoided fighting Itachi. Kishimoto showed as much in the movie he wrote.

Obito stayed away from Itachi, and said that if Itachi knew his secrets, he'd certainly die.

It's obvious that he was cautious of the boy/man who constantly amazed him.

Lol, the movie is non-canon even if it was made by Kishi himself. And in the movie Obito only mentioned that Itachi was interfering as always, not that he was a danger.

Obito stayed away from Itachi, and said that if Itachi knew his secrets, he'd certainly die.

It is obvious. Even Konan would defeat MS Obito if she knew his secret. Just look at the war - until Kakashi cracked how Obito's Kamui works, only then did they start dealing any damage to him.

In other words, there are many characters who could defeat MS Obito when knowing his secret.

Also, it's Itachi who was afraid of Obito - otherwise he wouldn't resort to a cheap assassination trick (Amaterasu trap) and would fight Obito face to face.

It's obvious that he was cautious of the boy/man who constantly amazed him.

Of course he was cautious of him, Itachi knew about Obito the most out of all people who weren't Obito's allies.
Besides, Itachi himself admitted later as an edo that Obito knew absolutely everything about him.