[Theory] Is it too late ?

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Black Zetsu said that in Infinite Tskyumoni everyone will transform into White Zetsus.

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But, in the recent chapter, we saw a White Zetsu transforming into a Tree.

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Now, where have we seen such a phenomenon ?

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White Zetsus transform into trees when they are exposed to Bijuu Chakra.

In this case, replace the Bijuu Chakra with Shinju Chakra and we see that the White Zetsus transform into trees. This is perhaps because the Shinju succeeded in absorbing all chakra from the victims of Infinite Tskyumoni.

The Shinju's chakra is so strong That the White Zetsu is remotely affected. (The White Zetsu is not connected to the Shinju).

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It seems Naruto and Sauske were too late and everyone caught in Infinite Tskyumoni has already become a White Zetsu.

The White Zetsu army will rise soon.

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The fight between Naruto and Sasuke will only make things worse as it will delay the Release of Infinite Tskyumoni. (They need to co-operate to release Infinite Tskyumoni).

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Give time for the Shinju to make all chakra one.

Which means

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The Shinju's fruit is coming.......
 
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I will be surprised if all those people become white Zetsu .... however, where the hell is this SZ and what he is doing .

The manga will become interesting too much from now on .
 

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The fruit can't be created unless someone collects all the chakra in one place. This clearly isn't going to happen now that the person who controled the IT is gone.

BZ's old zetsu body turning into a tree was actually symbolism to let you "theory" crafters know it's time to let go, that part of the story is over.

Finally, without Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura, and the Bijuu's in the IT, all the chakra can never be collected.
 
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I will be surprised if all those people become white Zetsu .... however, where the hell is this SZ and what he is doing .

The manga will become interesting too much from now on .
Perhaps, SZ will control the White Zetsu Army to stall Naruto and Sauske till the fruit ripens ?

Interesting sig as usual by the way.

Interesting.
Thanks. :)

Tsukuyomi*

Well, this is interesting to say the least... :)
I always mess up the spelling. Lol

Kaguya will return to change them back.
Well, if they all turned into Zetsus, there must be a way to reverse it. Kaguya may do it perhaps late in the story.

interesting things might happen with swirly.
i hope it gives them a new foe lol
Yeah, I hope SZ brings a new plot twist.

Good work homes you cracked the case.
Thanks. :D

The fruit can't be created unless someone collects all the chakra in one place. This clearly isn't going to happen now that the person who controled the IT is gone.

BZ's old zetsu body turning into a tree was actually symbolism to let you "theory" crafters know it's time to let go, that part of the story is over.

Finally, without Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura, and the Bijuu's in the IT, all the chakra can never be collected.
First of all Black Zetsu was sealed in CT. He never had a White Zetsu body. The White Zetsu that transforms into a tree is actually a White Zetsu used to revive the Edo Kages.

All of that doesn't matter because the Shinju still exists and is still collecting chakra and eventually all that chakra collected will become one and the fruit will ripen. The main thing is that no one is controlling the Shinju, the Shinju is doing this automatically.
 

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First of all Black Zetsu was sealed in CT. He never had a White Zetsu body. The White Zetsu that transforms into a tree is actually a White Zetsu used to revive the Edo Kages.

All of that doesn't matter because the Shinju still exists and is still collecting chakra and eventually all that chakra collected will become one and the fruit will ripen. The main thing is that no one is controlling the Shinju, the Shinju is doing this automatically.
You are right about that zetsu, but Black Zetsu never had a white zetsu body? Okay...


That does change the meaning of the symbolism though, it's a send of the hashirama and the other edo-kage. Certainly isn't a clue about the shinju doing anything. You seem to think IT and the shinju are one in the same but they are not.

So again you through away any manga fact that gets in your theories way. The fruit can't appear unless all the chakra is collected in once place. As long as there are people not in IT, and Kaguya or Madara aren't around to add in the remainder the fruit will never appear.


"When the chakra becomes one."
 
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You are right about that zetsu, but Black Zetsu never had a white zetsu body? Okay...


That does change the meaning of the symbolism though, it's a send of the hashirama and the other edo-kage. Certainly isn't a clue about the shinju doing anything. You seem to think IT and the shinju are one in the same but they are not.

So again you through away any manga fact that gets in your theories way. The fruit can't appear unless all the chakra is collected in once place. As long as there are people not in IT, and Kaguya or Madara aren't around to add in the remainder the fruit will never appear.


"When the chakra becomes one."
That white zetsu was never shown to transform into a tree, but I guess it could go either way.

Infinite Tskyumoni is still active and people are still trapped in it.

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The Shinju still exists even though the Gedo Mazou has been sealed.

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The Shinju has become very massive. (Those are roots, god knows how big the actual tree is). It actually shows that it has absorbed an enormous quantity of Chakra.

Madara when he casts Infinite Tskyumoni releases the Shinju from his body.

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And the Shinju traps everyone with it's roots.

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Black Zetsu uses only a part of the Chakra from the Victims of Infinite Tskyumoni to revive Kaguya.

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During Kaguya's transformation into the rabbit, there is no Shinju, only Kaguya (The Rabbit) and the Nine Bijuu appear.

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During the sealing process, all the component parts of the Juubi separate. Once again, there is no Shinju, only the Nine Bijuu and the Rabbit appear.

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This is because, the Shinju was in the Real World absorbing the chakra of people stuck in Infinite Tskyumoni.

The Shinju's fruit only ripens when it absorbs all chakra and makes it one.

For which both Infinite Tskyumoni and the Shinju play a major role.

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As far as I can tell, Kaguya and the Nine Bijuu play no role in the Shinju's quest of making all chakra one. They were important only to revive the Juubi, so that the Shinju can be separated from the Juubi.
 
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As far as I can tell, Kaguya and the Nine Bijuu play no role in the Shinju's quest of making all chakra one. They were important only to revive the Juubi, so that the Shinju can be separated from the Juubi.
The Shinju doesn't have sentience.

As far as not seeing it... that's because the shinju is part of the juubi. It was pulled out of the juubi by Obito and was absorb back into by Madara.
 

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That makes sense. You think that Hagoromo planned all of this or who could be the one "manipulating" them?
Considering the recent chapter, I highly doubt Hagoromo is manipulating them. But, Spiral Zetsu could take advantage of the current situation.

the Zetsu you speak of was the container for hashirama's soul, I think it turned into a tree because of hashirama leaving the body.
I tried to address as to why the White Zetsu turned into a tree ? It has already been shown that the transformation only happens because of exposure to Bijuu or similar chakra.

The Shinju doesn't have sentience.

As far as not seeing it... that's because the shinju is part of the juubi. It was pulled out of the juubi by Obito and was absorb back into by Madara.
The Juubi as a neutral entity has no sentience. The Shinju has sentience because otherwise it won't be called the God Tree. If that doesn't suit you, then it would seem that the process is either automatic or someone is still influencing the Shinju, i.e; Spiral Zetsu.

I was also saying that. The Juubi consists of Shinju, Kaguya, Nine Bijuu and the Gedo Mazou. Madara separated the Shinju from the Juubi in order to complete Infinite Tskyumoni.

i thought that were the ashes of obito? lol
The Edos when disintegrating leave the sacrifice body and ashes. It's because the upper layer is made from ashes.
 
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The Juubi as a neutral entity has no sentience. The Shinju has sentience because otherwise it won't be called the God Tree. If that doesn't suit you, then it would seem that the process is either automatic or someone is still influencing the Shinju, i.e; Spiral Zetsu.

I was also saying that. The Juubi consists of Shinju, Kaguya, Nine Bijuu and the Gedo Mazou. Madara separated the Shinju from the Juubi in order to complete Infinite Tskyumoni.
No Madara didn't separate the tree, the vines are part of IT, notthe shinju itself. Though it maybe related to it, the tree was once again sealed alone with kaguya and the mezou.

Anyway, I can see you won't budge... just be another ill conceived theory to be proven wrong in a few chapters.
 
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No Madara didn't separate the tree, the vines are part of IT, no the shinju itself. Though it maybe related to it, the tree was once again sealed alone with kaguya and the mezou.

Anyway, I can see you won't budge... just be another ill conceived theory to be proven wrong in a few chapters.
Madara broke the seal and separated the Shinju from the Juubi. Otherwise how would he have trapped all the people in Infinite Tskyumoni ? And during the sealing process, the Juubi divided into it's component parts. But, there was no Shinju there. It's because Madara already separated it in the real world. It's similar to how Obito separated the Shinju from Gedo Mazou and the Nine Bijuu, the Juubi.

The point is even reinforced when Madara absorbs and seals the Juubi and Shinju separately.

Btw, the roots are a part of the Shinju.

I guess only time will tell who is right. U_U
 
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The fact that Kishi specifically showed a dead white zetsu turn into trees, means WZ's story is coming NeXT imo

Nice theory! Guess we should expect Spiral Z to show up soon :)
 
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