You can't compare itachi at his weakest state to guys best state.
Itachi near death consuming pills to live longer and suffering from strokes & heart attacks<Guy Sensei at his prime.
Itachi at healthiest state>Guy Sensei
I believe firmly that Lord Gai has The Best chance to defeat Itachi but Yata Mirror blocks Taijutsu of ANY Kind and Totsuka seeals at the speed of sound(MangaFact I have evidence if you want) and one Gai Goes 8 Gates and he collides with Yata Mirror Gai will be demolished because the will hurt himself from the impact because just kicking Madara with the Night Moth broke his legs so Imagine Kicking Yata Mirror which can't be broken and Gai Has never seen also Yata can be activate faster than sound(Can prove that too)
You can't compare itachi at his weakest state to guys best state.
Itachi near death consuming pills to live longer and suffering from strokes & heart attacks<Guy Sensei at his prime.
Itachi at healthiest state>Guy Sensei
Perhpas because Ay likes to gloat about his speed and Gai doesn't? Gai's reflexes and speed were enough to push back madara and react to Madara in 7th gates. Minato's reactions werent fast enough to react in sage mode, and Minato was faster than the raikage by his admittance. 7th gate Gai definitely has faster reflexes than Ay, more strength than A, and is guess what faster than Ay. You should realize this after watching 7 gate Gai fight Madara and was able to push him back, when Ay was slow enough to get stomped in to the ground by a non juubi jin madara. Gai is clearly faster.
Nothing of sorts. Madara effortlessly blocked all gai's attacks.
Being pushed back has little to do with gai's reflexes more like madara was just seeing extend of his power.
Ay cant sustain V2 for a long time, when he was caught by edo madara he was in v1 i think.
There is no clear indication of gai being faster, but even if he was that doesnt matter cuz if he will avoid eye contact he will never see amaterasu coming thus wont even do anything.
7th G gai still has no destruction feats of kirin that was tanked by susanoo.
The funny thing is, that's exactly what he's trying to get at.
He and the rest of his ilk won't stop until everyone agrees with them that Itachi's the most powerful being to ever exist in the Narutoverse and has no limits, and he only allowed everything to happen as they did because he felt like it instead of y'know, stopping it and saving the world. Any opinions to the contrary only makes you a hater and/or an idiot whom aren't as enlightened and understanding as they are.
Itachi's goal was to protect the village and keep it safe not the world.
Konoha's greatest threat were the uchiha and he did take actions to his own hands, his love for sasuke was his greatest set back but step foward to saving the world. If sasuke did not get filled with revenge neither he or naruto would be as strong as they are. It's a fact, that's why people view itachi with such great influence. He was the key to unlock every crucial thing that happened to get where we are now.
As for power itachi was put on the same level if not greater than Orochimaru and even Kakashi. To argue Guy is stronger than the 3 is far fetched. Just because you see the power, doesn't necessarily mean they are more powerful unless they cause a person's death.
If gai Itachi, why didn't guy beat itachi long time ago?
Itachi uchiha...
Tsukuyomi..Amaterasu...Susanoo..Yasaka no Magatama..intelligence..Speed/reflexes...S class criminal...praised by many lords.. praised by madara...Perfect ninja according to sasuke.. better shinobi than hashirama..Wtf..
how can you even come up with this? how can narutobase fellows even agree to this madness..
By your logic, Itachi defeats everyone neg dif. He defeats whole Naruto universe at the same time if the yata mirror is able to provide spherical protection. The only possible way to even attack him would be to teleport inside the susanoo. And the only people who have such an ability are Obito and Itachi, Sasuke and anyone of the sage's times are also debatable but featless. And Itachi would easily take out Obito or Itachi if they entered his susanno with amaterasu.
Yata cannot provide spherical protection otherwise he would have just said, okay Naruto lets chill here until this chibaku tensei is done with and the lets destroy the rocks, ez pz. Yata can't defend everywhere, I will admit it can expand, as shown in that scan but it has to have a limit.
No, that's just you attempting to twist what I said. Itachi can hold it up for a limited time, however, that limited amount of time is enough to fight against a shinobi with a limited arsenal such as Gai, who only has his taijutsu to rely on and in this fight is restricted from using 8th gate in this scenario.
With the scans, it expands to cover the full range of the attack. Don't quite know why that would bother you so much, Itachi's dead anyway. Also, that isn't the best argument here. The fight with Edo Nagato wasn't ever Itachi vs him alone, Naruto and Bee were there from the start. Naruto and Bee were going to do something...if you just have the main character standing there being totally useless, isn't that bad writing? Also, even if Yata did expand, that's not taking out Chibaku Tensei, the core would still be in tact. It would just block it for a limited time. Also, the susanno and Yata itself would become a part of it. Try again.
Itachi's goal was to protect the village and keep it safe not the world.
Konoha's greatest threat were the uchiha and he did take actions to his own hands, his love for sasuke was his greatest set back but step foward to saving the world. If sasuke did not get filled with revenge neither he or naruto would be as strong as they are. It's a fact, that's why people view itachi with such great influence. He was the key to unlock every crucial thing that happened to get where we are now.
As for power itachi was put on the same level if not greater than Orochimaru and even Kakashi. To argue Guy is stronger than the 3 is far fetched. Just because you see the power, doesn't necessarily mean they are more powerful unless they cause a person's death.
The funny thing is, that's exactly what he's trying to get at.
He and the rest of his ilk won't stop until everyone agrees with them that Itachi's the most powerful being to ever exist in the Narutoverse and has no limits, and he only allowed everything to happen as they did because he felt like it instead of y'know, stopping it and saving the world. Any opinions to the contrary only makes you a hater and/or an idiot whom aren't as enlightened and understanding as they are.
Well, this post reeks of ignorance.
-I'm a girl, not a he. U_U
-Itachi's not the most powerful being to exist in the Naruverse, he's not close to it and I would never make such a statement. In fact, I never have made such a statement, not even anything close to that.
-I don't call people "haters/idiots" for disagreeing with me.
I can understand if you think Itachi is overrated, but that's no reason to get upset and bash an entire fanbase over it. I don't quite see the issue with saying Itachi>Gai when the databook gave Itachi a higher score and he has better feats, especially considering that in this thread the op restricted the 8th gates for Gai. However, obviously with 8 gates Gai stomps, no question.
Well, this post reeks of ignorance.
-I'm a girl, not a he. U_U
-Itachi's not the most powerful being to exist in the Naruverse, he's not close to it and I would never make such a statement. In fact, I never have made such a statement, not even anything close to that.
-I don't call people "haters/idiots" for disagreeing with me.
I can understand if you think Itachi is overrated, but that's no reason to get upset and bash an entire fanbase over it. I don't quite see the issue with saying Itachi>Gai when the databook gave Itachi a higher score and he has better feats, especially considering that in this thread the op restricted the 8th gates for Gai. However, obviously with 8 gates Gai stomps, no question.
Well, this post reeks of ignorance.
-I'm a girl, not a he. U_U
-Itachi's not the most powerful being to exist in the Naruverse, he's not close to it and I would never make such a statement. In fact, I never have made such a statement, not even anything close to that.
-I don't call people "haters/idiots" for disagreeing with me.
I can understand if you think Itachi is overrated, but that's no reason to get upset and bash an entire fanbase over it. I don't quite see the issue with saying Itachi>Gai when the databook gave Itachi a higher score and he has better feats, especially considering that in this thread the op restrcited the 8th gates for Gai. However, obviously with 8 gates Gai stomps, no question.
Thought you'd start your opening argument like that.
-Potato, potato.
-Here's a composite of all the stuff that's said, implied, or suggested by Itachi fans over the years and to varying degrees of wank (and some of it in here):
Itachi's the smartest character and knows everything before it happens.
Itachi's the best taijutsu user with the Sharingan active, he can see the future.
Itachi's the best genjutsu user and everyone loses instantly.
Itachi's too fast and blitzes with a kunai.
Itachi one-shots instantly with Amaterasu.
Itachi spams Susanoo which protects from everything and is stronger than Bijuu.
Itachi spams Yata which stops everything no matter what.
Itachi one-shots instantly with Totsuka.
Itachi is even more powerful if he were healthy/bloodlusted.
Etc.
-Just ignorant? If what I said doesn't wholly apply to you, then don't take offense. I'm sorry if I haven't collected an entire list of names in the instances where I am required to make references. I can also tell that you've never been on the receiving end of the Church of Itachi inquisition as I have.
Base Gai is relatively as fast, and is much stronger and better at taijutsu. Gai short of the 8th gate one-shots higher brass characters like Kisame.
-Here's a composite of all the stuff that's said, implied, or suggested by Itachi fans over the years and to varying degrees of wank (and some of it in here):
Itachi's the smartest character and knows everything before it happens.
Itachi's the best taijutsu user with the Sharingan active, he can see the future.
Itachi's the best genjutsu user and everyone loses instantly.
Itachi's too fast and blitzes with a kunai.
Itachi one-shots instantly with Amaterasu.
Itachi spams Susanoo which protects from everything and is stronger than Bijuu.
Itachi spams Yata which stops everything no matter what.
Itachi one-shots instantly with Totsuka.
Itachi is even more powerful if he were healthy/bloodlusted.
Etc.
So now what? You gonna ***** in every itachi thread based on what fans said?
You should stay on topic, give your opinion and that's it.
If you dont like the wank, you have plenty of options to deal with it, dont read, mature up and some more.
Thought you'd start your opening argument like that.
-Potato, potato.
-Here's a composite of all the stuff that's said, implied, or suggested by Itachi fans over the years and to varying degrees of wank (and some of it in here):
Itachi's the smartest character and knows everything before it happens.
Itachi's the best taijutsu user with the Sharingan active, he can see the future.
Itachi's the best genjutsu user and everyone loses instantly.
Itachi's too fast and blitzes with a kunai.
Itachi one-shots instantly with Amaterasu.
Itachi spams Susanoo which protects from everything and is stronger than Bijuu.
Itachi spams Yata which stops everything no matter what.
Itachi one-shots instantly with Totsuka.
Itachi is even more powerful if he were healthy/bloodlusted.
Etc.
-Just ignorant? If what I said doesn't wholly apply to you, then don't take offense. I'm sorry if I haven't collected an entire list of names in the instances where I am required to make references. I can also tell that you've never been on the receiving end of the Church of Itachi inquisition as I have.
Base Gai is relatively as fast, and is much stronger and better at taijutsu. Gai short of the 8 gates one-shots higher brass characters like Kisame.
Yes, I started off my opening argument with a somewhat rude statement...but then again your post wasn't the most polite either.
Why so bothered by what trolls say? Every fanbase has them. People were saying that Edo Madara could drop a meteor on the Sage of the 6 paths and kill him when he was first introduced from that coffin. People say that Minato can FTG to the moon and back. People state all kinds of ridiculous comments. You for some reason just like to complain about it in random threads.
You directed a comment towards me and made a generalization about an entire fanbase, because one user misinterpreted what I said (he thought that I was saying that Yata could provide spherical protection...lol what, but I meant that it could expand to a good degree to cover an attack), then you stated that I and everyone else who appreciates that fictional work demeans other users who do not and that we are basically delusional people who think Itachi>Naruverse, when that certainly is not the case. It wasn't a very professional post from you. And while I do admit that I haven't had the same encounters from Itachi fans that you probably have had, considering that I joined the base this year, I still don't think it's right to post things like that.
