Is it safe to say Gai > itachi?

[Tingun]

Possibly, the only large obstical I see would be his non-eye contact finger genjutsu.

I'll give gai the benefit of the doubt though. Depending on how he fights from the beginning determines the fight imo

 

[Davy Jones]

I hate to say it, But Gai wins V_V

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Finger genjutsu.
Gai also cant react to amaterasu.
Yata takes any attack form 7th gate and so would susanoo U_U

If Ay can react to Amaterasu, then 7th gate Gai sure as hell can.
And Yata doesn't wrap around his entire Susano'o, every defense has its weak spot...

 

[FleeOnSight]

Possibly, the only large obstical I see would be his non-eye contact finger genjutsu.

I'll give gai the benefit of the doubt though.

Ya know, I see absolutely no possible way to evade something like that. Only thing I can think of is breaking out of it once inside like naruto attempted. Gai may have more experience with that.

 

[Lucidus]

again.. how does finger genjutsu even effect gai when gai is looking at itachi feet and fighting :| .. finger genjutsu is all well and good when your avoiding eye contact and your looking at his hands but gai would be looking at his feet -.-

 

[HiddenSound]

Not exactly...
But in the 8th Gate he stomps.

 

[AlphaScythian]

If Ay can react to Amaterasu, then 7th gate Gai sure as hell can.
And Yata doesn't wrap around his entire Susano'o, every defense has its weak spot...

Ay was considered as fastest shinobi alive, not gai.
Ay has augmented reflexes from raiton, gai doesnt.

Susanoo took kirin and provided enough defence for Itachi. 7th gai has no such destructive feats.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Yeah he can use susanoo. 1 minute later you can go check the first 3 pictures of the OP.

As far as sitting inside susanoo it's NOT a option for itachi. It drains entirely too much chakra.

The other side is, Guy can't remain in gates for long either. Then again, he might beat Itachi by getting behind the susanoo to use Hidora, but it's by no means impossible for Itachi to win.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Ya know, I see absolutely no possible way to evade something like that. Only thing I can think of is breaking out of it once inside like naruto attempted. Gai may have more experience with that.

Extreme pain should be able to knock a person out of genjutsu, which happens with the 8 gates (definitely with the 7th and 8th). Also not looking at the finger would work, but Itachi could simply move his hand toward his feet if Gai wants to roll like that, but like I said the pain should break him out of a genjutsu.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

8th Gate Guy kills Itachi. But, since he dies also, it's considered a draw.

7th Gate Guy loses to Amaterasu. Speed in 7th Gate is not >= Ay's V2 Raiton Armour, so he cannot evade it. If he's looking at his eyes for indication of him using it, he gets trapped in genjutsu.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Ay was considered as fastest shinobi alive, not gai.
Ay has augmented reflexes from raiton, gai doesnt.

Susanoo took kirin and provided enough defence for Itachi. 7th gai has no such destructive feats.

Perhpas because Ay likes to gloat about his speed and Gai doesn't? Gai's reflexes and speed were enough to push back madara and react to Madara in 7th gates. Minato's reactions werent fast enough to react in sage mode, and Minato was faster than the raikage by his admittance. 7th gate Gai definitely has faster reflexes than Ay, more strength than A, and is guess what faster than Ay. You should realize this after watching 7 gate Gai fight Madara and was able to push him back, when Ay was slow enough to get stomped in to the ground by a non juubi jin madara. Gai is clearly faster.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Am I the only one that think 7th gate gai sits at the table with V2 Ay? I know Ay is faster that's a given but I don't think he's THAT much faster. Also as far as power Ay with the help of oonoki was able to penetrate Madaras susanoo while 7th gate gai took it to pound town with hirudora.

Even if itachi sits in susanoo sasuke was able to evade Amaterasu for a sec gai should be able to do the same. If he gets behind susanoo it's over.

Edit: not to mention Gai's reflexes were good enough to react to rikudo Madara. That should make Amaterasu easily avoidable.

 

[ShiroT]

Am i wrong? I mean Gai is the perfect ninja to take out itachi 8th gate not needed.

Some may say he needs 8th gate to get around susanoo blah blah but when you logically think about it he doesn't and here's why.....

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That kills any use of susanoo. Tsukuyomi is also a non-factor as eye contact is required for you to fall for it and Gai has already found a work around here:

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That leaves Amaterasu, basic taijutsu(which itachi would be a complete idiot to challenge Gai with) Ninjutsu(katon & suiton) and shuriken jutsu which would easily be overpowered by Gai's gate attacks.

Amaterasu and better intellect is Itachi's only hope but TBH the pressure Gai puts on his opponents with speedy attacks will make it hard for itachi to come up with a effective counter. Though itachi is itachi and you cant count him out completely.

That concludes my thread on why Gai > Itachi mid to high diff simply because itachi doesn't posses the raw power and stamina to stand up to Gai who thrives in those categories.


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you do know that gai developed a way to not look in his eyes fighting on water right? the "reflection" is the reflection from the water .. . . on land this doesnt matter

 

[Chie]

Just going to point out a few more things.

-Claiming that Gai is just going to look at Itachi's feet the entire time and win isn't going to work here. He wouldn't sense amaterasu coming and he'd get scorched.
-Gai will look at above Itachi's feet, considering that where they'll be fighting, there won't be any water so Gai cannot depend upon looking at a reflection. He has no idea that finger genjutsu exists. No matter how you look at it, he's getting caught. He'll also have to avoid looking at Itachi's crow summons'. Kabuto sealed off his vision and relied on his DSM sensory abilities in order to fight Itachi and avoid his genjutsu, just to be safe...and in the end he still got caught even while being an Uchiha tank. In all honesty, Gai isn't avoiding it here...and I'm saying this as someone who is fond of Gai's character. He's only winning this fight with 8 gates.
-He's not fast enough to dodge amaterasu. Amaterasu spawns exactly where the user's line of sight is. If Itachi is looking at Gai, then Gai is getting scorched. And if Gai is attempting to avoid eye-contact, he won't see it coming. Also, it's not like Gai will be constantly on the move...he's going to stop at some time.
-Yata will deflect Gai's attacks. Itachi can hold it up longer than when he fought Sasuke, especially considering here in this scenario, he can start with it right off the bat if he wants to. And the claim that Yata only deflects what is only right in front of the susanno is false. It expands to cover the full range of the attack.

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Also, if Gai attempts to hit that with his taijustsu and is reflected...would that hurt him in any way?
-Saying that Itachi is going to hold up his susanno aimlessly for the entire fight and that Gai just outlasts him is a pathetic argument. When has he ever done that? Madara and Sasuke are the Uchiha who start out with showy techs like susanno...Itachi is the one who starts off with the lowest thing in his arsenal, kunai and simple weapons. That's the type of shinobi he is. If he sees that susanno is not benefitting him, he's not going to keep it up.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Am I the only one that think 7th gate gai sits at the table with V2 Ay? I know Ay is faster that's a given but I don't think he's THAT much faster. Also as far as power Ay with the help of oonoki was able to penetrate Madaras susanoo while 7th gate gai took it to pound town with hirudora.

Even if itachi sits in susanoo sasuke was able to evade Amaterasu for a sec gai should be able to do the same. If he gets behind susanoo it's over.

Edit: not to mention Gai's reflexes were good enough to react to rikudo Madara. That should make Amaterasu easily avoidable.

Yeah, if not even faster, the man can create a powerful blast through the sheer speed of his punch.

 

[Itachi The Solo King]

What????

I'm late to tha party but how Gai > Itachi?

If gai Itachi, why didn't guy beat itachi long time ago?

Itachi uchiha...

Tsukuyomi..Amaterasu...Susanoo..Yasaka no Magatama..intelligence..Speed/reflexes...S class criminal...praised by many lords.. praised by madara...Perfect ninja according to sasuke.. better shinobi than hashirama..Wtf..

how can you even come up with this? how can narutobase fellows even agree to this madness..

Itachi uchiha of the uchiha clan > Guy...

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

What????

I'm late to tha party but how Gai > Itachi?

If gai Itachi, why didn't guy beat itachi long time ago?

Itachi uchiha...

Tsukuyomi..Amaterasu...Susanoo..Yasaka no Magatama..intelligence..Speed/reflexes...S class criminal...praised by many lords.. praised by madara...Perfect ninja according to sasuke.. better shinobi than hashirama..Wtf..

how can you even come up with this? how can narutobase fellows even agree to this madness..

Itachi uchiha of the uchiha clan > Guy...

Gai >>>>>>> Madara >>>>>>> Itachi

 

[Xerotes]

Anything above 7 gates Gai stomps

 

[SharinganisOP]

Just going to point out a few more things.

-Claiming that Gai is just going to look at Itachi's feet the entire time and win isn't going to work here. He wouldn't sense amaterasu coming and he'd get scorched.
-Gai will look at above Itachi's feet, considering that where they'll be fighting, there won't be any water so Gai cannot depend upon looking at a reflection. He has no idea that finger genjutsu exists. No matter how you look at it, he's getting caught. He'll also have to avoid looking at Itachi's crow summons'. Kabuto sealed off his vision and relied on his DSM sensory abilities in order to fight Itachi and avoid his genjutsu, just to be safe...and in the end he still got caught even while being an Uchiha tank. In all honesty, Gai isn't avoiding it here...and I'm saying this as someone who is fond of Gai's character. He's only winning this fight with 8 gates.
-He's not fast enough to dodge amaterasu. Amaterasu spawns exactly where the user's line of sight is. If Itachi is looking at Gai, then Gai is getting scorched. And if Gai is attempting to avoid eye-contact, he won't see it coming. Also, it's not like Gai will be constantly on the move...he's going to stop at some time.
-Yata will deflect Gai's attacks. Itachi can hold it up longer than when he fought Sasuke, especially considering here in this scenario, he can start with it right off the bat if he wants to. And the claim that Yata only deflects what is only right in front of the susanno is false. It expands to cover the full range of the attack.

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Also, if Gai attempts to hit that with his taijustsu and is reflected...would that hurt him in any way?
-Saying that Itachi is going to hold up his susanno aimlessly for the entire fight and that Gai just outlasts him is a pathetic argument. When has he ever done that? Madara and Sasuke are the Uchiha who start out with showy techs like susanno...Itachi is the one who starts off with the lowest thing in his arsenal, kunai and simple weapons. That's the type of shinobi he is. If he sees that susanno is not benefitting him, he's not going to keep it up.

By your logic, Itachi defeats everyone neg dif. He defeats whole Naruto universe at the same time if the yata mirror is able to provide spherical protection. The only possible way to even attack him would be to teleport inside the susanoo. And the only people who have such an ability are Obito and Itachi, Sasuke and anyone of the sage's times are also debatable but featless. And Itachi would easily take out Obito or Itachi if they entered his susanno with amaterasu.

Yata cannot provide spherical protection otherwise he would have just said, okay Naruto lets chill here until this chibaku tensei is done with and the lets destroy the rocks, ez pz. Yata can't defend everywhere, I will admit it can expand, as shown in that scan but it has to have a limit.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

By your logic, Itachi defeats everyone neg dif. He defeats whole Naruto universe at the same time if the yata mirror is able to provide spherical protection. The only possible way to even attack him would be to teleport inside the susanoo. And the only people who have such an ability are Obito and Itachi, Sasuke and anyone of the sage's times are also debatable but featless. And Itachi would easily take out Obito or Itachi if they entered his susanno with amaterasu.

Yata cannot provide spherical protection otherwise he would have just said, okay Naruto lets chill here until this chibaku tensei is done with and the lets destroy the rocks, ez pz. Yata can't defend everywhere, I will admit it can expand, as shown in that scan but it has to have a limit.

The funny thing is, that's exactly what he's trying to get at.

He and the rest of his ilk won't stop until everyone agrees with them that Itachi's the most powerful being to ever exist in the Narutoverse and has no limits, and he only allowed everything to happen as they did because he felt like it instead of y'know, stopping it and saving the world. Any opinions to the contrary only makes you a hater and/or an idiot whom aren't as enlightened and understanding as they are.