[Discussion] Is it possible to save the biijus now ?

[Frikid]

Naruto asks sasuke to not fully kill the juubi because he wants to save those bijju in juubi's body.

Now , according to sasuke, juubi and the other bijjus are a hurdle against peace. So he wants the juubi to die.

Actually, right now, i think both sasuke and naruto are wrong.

Juubi simply can't be killed just like all the bijjus. Even if they are killed, they randomly get revived in a random location.
A bijju is immortal and the only way to prevent them getting used is to seal there power in a body(jinchuriki) .

So,(hypothetically) even if sasuke burns down the whole juubi, it will repawn again. It simply can't be killed hence why so6p sealed it.

Now onto naruto.
Naruto says he wants to protect the bijju. Now i think it is now impossible for naruto to protect those bijjus.
If it was gedo mazou , then i think bijju could be protected as they were still in container and have their conscious with them. But at this point, it is not possible for naruto to save the bijju , (without sasuke's help Lol)


BUT i think there is still a way to get the bijju back, but it is a bit more complicated.
Before explaining how sasuke and naruto can bring back the bijju, i want you to remember how so6p bring them.

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Lol the manga did all the work for me. Sasuke will be the yin power (i think rinnegan will also be required here) and Naruto will be the yang power. I think this is the only way to bring back the bijjus. But they would not have their current form as they have now, they would be born as completely new .
By that i mean , they would be revived in their baby form :

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And they will probably forget everything that happened to them. All the hatred, the bijju got will be vanished from their mind along with all their memories. They will get the chance to start fresh.

So yeah, both naruto and sasuke have to work together and "cooperate" with each other to obtain true peace.
If they manage to do it, they can literally start everything from scratch and obtain true peace.
I mean all the gokages are here. If they help sasuke and naruto , all of the villages can work together.


To further support my theory, i want to show what message so6p left for us :

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So in short, naruto cannot save the bijjus now but he can revive them as they revived by so6p with help of sasuke. And they both can work together to obtain true peace.

Its funny how both naruto and sasuke took different path in there life yet ended up at the same goal, to obtain true peace Lol.

 

[Moss]

Nice thread. Was not expecting something this well read.

 

[OWanime]

nice thread xd I was like "yes" during the uchiha tablet translation xd funny guy

 

[Versatile jutsu]

naruto get rinnegan

 

[The Big Boss]

find out next chapter

 

[rollin]

I agree that's probably what the sage meant when he told the bijuus they'll know what true power is

 

[Mr Hiru]

Yin-yang Release: Creation of All things.

Research about that jutsu man. I don't think it has something to do with the two sons necessarily, but with the process used to create the Bijuus.

I think the peace will be achieved when all bijuus "now with consciousness" are reunited again as a whole form.

 

[saw2097]

Wasn't bad, I did hear another theory that is similar, that the Tailed Beasts will be transformed which will make it impossible for them to be used as weapons of war ever again.

But nice theory.

 

[siege]

maybe the tailed beasts showed him how

 

[Frikid]

Yin-yang Release: Creation of All things.

Research about that jutsu man. I don't think it has something to do with the two sons necessarily, but with the process used to create the Bijuus.

I think the peace will be achieved when all bijuus "now with consciousness" are reunited again as a whole form.

The Creation of All Things (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō) was an ability possessed by the Sage of the Six Paths, which he used to create the nine tailed beasts. The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create physical forms from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the resulting creations. Thus, the Sage used this to purge the Ten-Tails's chakra from its body and split the energy into nine separate beings.

it is not a kekkai genkai as you sound.

So6p did say something about 2 forces working together , so i tried to connect it with current situation and they all seem to make sense .

Naruto represents younger son
Sasuke represents elder son.

the sage sons were not able to work together, hashi and madara,also not able to work together.

but naruto and sasuke are main char and they will "break the curse" . They are already pretty damn good at combining jutsu. So i think i am thinking in correct direction.

maybe the tailed beasts showed him how

Either this or
so6p will pop up in naruto's conscious and tell him how to do it .

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

I would say so.

 

[siege]

What if the tailed beasts gave him there template or there consciousness either way they gave him more than a little chakra

 

[Nindo Protecter]

Yes, they can be

 

[Mr Hiru]

it is not a kekkai genkai as you sound.

So6p did say something about 2 forces working together , so i tried to connect it with current situation and they all seem to make sense .

Naruto represents younger son
Sasuke represents elder son.

the sage sons were not able to work together, hashi and madara,also not able to work together.

but naruto and sasuke are main char and they will "break the curse" . They are already pretty damn good at combining jutsu. So i think i am thinking in correct direction.


Either this or
so6p will pop up in naruto's conscious and tell him how to do it .

That's the thing man. At this rate, I think Sasuke trying to use a Kekkei Genkai to get control over the Juubi is useless. Furthermore, I'm fully certain that Sasuke won't be able to do anything because he is being naive. He is trying to use power without even knowing the Bijuus at the core. The two-sons parallel failed, Hashirama couldn't achieve peace through love, and Madara isn't achieving peace through power.

Now, onto your screens. There is one that says (SO6P message):

"Looking for stability, one God was divided into Yin and Yang."

This message could be interpreted in more than one way. One is about his two sons, and that's what you're talking about... but that interpretation has a flaw: He is talking about the god that was divided, but the sage was human. In other words, he is not talking about the sons he created, he is talking about the tailed beasts that once were part of a superior entity, a god, called Juubi.

Why can I interpret the tablet in this way? Well, long time ago the Fourth Hokage divided Kurama into Yin and Yang, it was part of the jutsu used by the Sage. This means every tailed beast has a part Yin and another part that is Yang. The jutsu used by the sage, "Creation of All things", is a Yin Yang Release jutsu, that uses both yin and yang parts to form living things (yang) from nothingness (yin). In order to create the tailed beasts, the Sage had to divide the Juubi into yin and yang, and after that, he had to create the beasts using that Yin and Yang energy again. In order to achieve the process of manipulating so much energy, he sacrificed lifespan.

Think about it carefully. Time after the beasts were divided, Hashirama Senju gave some of these beasts to other villages so they could achieve peace, because of the "balance" or "stability" of power.

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The possibility of the tablet referring the sons is still there, but with that flaw in mind I believe that in order to achieve peace it's not that Sasuke and Naruto have to cooperate, but reuniting the bijuus again to guide them in the right path is the way to achieve peace.

 

[Frikid]

That's the thing man. At this rate, I think Sasuke trying to use a Kekkei Genkai to get control over the Juubi is useless. Furthermore, I'm fully certain that Sasuke won't be able to do anything because he is being naive. He is trying to use power without even knowing the Bijuus at the core. The two-sons parallel failed, Hashirama couldn't achieve peace through love, and Madara isn't achieving peace through power.

Now, onto your screens. There is one that says (SO6P message):

"Looking for stability, one God was divided into Yin and Yang."

This message could be interpreted in more than one way. One is about his two sons, and that's what you're talking about... but that interpretation has a flaw: He is talking about the god that was divided, but the sage was human. In other words, he is not talking about the sons he created, he is talking about the tailed beasts that once were part of a superior entity, a god, called Juubi.

Why can I interpret the tablet in this way? Well, long time ago the Fourth Hokage divided Kurama into Yin and Yang, it was part of the jutsu used by the Sage. This means every tailed beast has a part Yin and another part that is Yang. The jutsu used by the sage, "Creation of All things", is a Yin Yang Release jutsu, that uses both yin and yang parts to form living things (yang) from nothingness (yin). In order to create the tailed beasts, the Sage had to divide the Juubi into yin and yang, and after that, he had to create the beasts using that Yin and Yang energy again. In order to achieve the process of manipulating so much energy, he sacrificed lifespan.

Think about it carefully. Time after the beasts were divided, Hashirama Senju gave some of these beasts to other villages so they could achieve peace, because of the "balance" or "stability" of power.

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The possibility of the tablet referring the sons is still there, but with that flaw in mind I believe that in order to achieve peace it's not that Sasuke and Naruto have to cooperate, but reuniting the bijuus again to guide them in the right path is the way to achieve peace.

@red:
two sons were not able to cooperate with each other = no peace
hashi and madara were cooperating with each other = temporary peace .
hashi and madara not cooperating with each other = no peace.

sasuke and naruto , being the main characters would break this curse and cooperate with each other to obtain peace.

Another important thing i want to tell is kishi also said in his interview once that " sasuke and naruto are like yin and yang" .
This is what he said while the war arc was just being started or somewhere around that time.

After defeating the juubi, so6p was preached as god. After becoming juubi jinchuriki, his power was "beyond human" . He created the moon.

I still don't know what flaw you are trying to find in this theory. Even your theory is strong in itself but i will stick to this theory since it makes much more sense to me.

 

[miromiro]

Really? You expect Sasuke & Naruto to use Creation of All Things? Hell, I don't think even Madara & Hashirama could use that, let alone Sasuke & Naruto. Rikudou Sennin was / is the only one who could use that jutsu, no way anyone from the current Manga has the chakra / jutsu formula to use it.

 

[Sherlock.]

I agree.... It's going to take great teamwork on Naruto and Sasuke's part from now on.... =D =D

 

[dvmaz]

I hope not. Let them burn to the ground

 

[Frikid]

Really? You expect Sasuke & Naruto to use Creation of All Things? Hell, I don't think even Madara & Hashirama could use that, let alone Sasuke & Naruto. Rikudou Sennin was / is the only one who could use that jutsu, no way anyone from the current Manga has the chakra / jutsu formula to use it.

they are the main character of the manga.
If someone has to achieve so6p , they are the first one which comes to mind, they both can combine their powers to do it.