is it me or are minato's chakra control feats super inconsistent?

[marik]

Never mastered odama rasengan or put an element in it.apparently he tried but just wasn't skilled enough to pull it off...


Yet,he...


Learned how to gather sage energy and not transform.jiraiya had to get the elder toads to gather chakra and couldn't keep his human form


Then he gets kcm/bijuu mode and masters them perfectly.



If you compare him to naruto it gets even more tricky...


Minato couldn't advance the rasengan while naruto learned/mastered wind element,added it to rasengan,then used shape manipulation to create rasenshuriken(s rank) in less then 3 days


Minato had absolutely no problem using kyuubi chakra meanwhile naruto had to practice using the chakra arms and balancing tbb



Just a thought.what do you think?

 

[LuckyMan]

Its not that he tried and failed to add his elements to his Rasengan. He just never did it before he died.

Minato can use KCM because he fought Kurama like Naruto did in the Death Gods stomach.

 

[slayerdanger]

I sort of agree

 

[General Lex]

I don't think that it was due to his lack of skill as much of it was to his lack of time. Remember Naruto used the clone cheat to rapidly gain the knowledge of how to do it. Also Naruto was focused on one thing. Minato was likely focused on many things, such as being in war or being hokage. I think given some more time he could have.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Never mastered odama rasengan or put an element in it.apparently he tried but just wasn't skilled enough to pull it off...


Yet,he...


Learned how to gather sage energy and not transform.jiraiya had to get the elder toads to gather chakra and couldn't keep his human form


Then he gets kcm/bijuu mode and masters them perfectly.



If you compare him to naruto it gets even more tricky...


Minato couldn't advance the rasengan while naruto learned/mastered wind element,added it to rasengan,then used shape manipulation to create rasenshuriken(s rank) in less then 3 days


Minato had absolutely no problem using kyuubi chakra meanwhile naruto had to practice using the chakra arms and balancing tbb



Just a thought.what do you think?

1. Read the manga. His base rasengan looks exactly likes narutos odama.

2.what do you mean not transform? He had the same look as naruto?

3. You can't compare anyone to naruto. He didn't have time to add chakra affinity. Only naruto can master jutsu of that caliber in 3 days to a week because of his kage bushin short cut. Anyone else would die trying.

4. Minato is good like that.

 

[marik]

Its not that he tried and failed to add his elements to his Rasengan. He just never did it before he died.

Minato can use KCM because he fought Kurama like Naruto did in the Death Gods stomach.

Scan of it saying he never tried or that he fought kurama please.I don't remember that.if I missed it I apologize.will rep on both my accounts for your efforts

 

[AGoodBoy]

Let me try to explain it to you.

Rasengan, SM, KCM all take chakra control and chakra balancing. That's all you need to do, take your chakra and focus it on the skills.

Rasenshuriken however is so difficult that you need to take your chakra to control it then you need to take that chakra(the chakra that's currently busy stabalizing the rasengan) to add a nature element to it and control that element around it. Like kakashi said, it's like looking left and right at the same time, none of those other skills/abilities you mentioned are as tough as that; They're all just moderate or advanced chakra control techniques, things minto can do without breaking a sweat.

Let's not forget that naruto has never used rasenshuriken without extra help(be it shadow clones, chakra arms, bijuu). It's just impossible for one person to do it themselves.

 

[LuckyMan]

Scan of it saying he never tried or that he fought kurama please.I don't remember that.if I missed it I apologize.will rep on both my accounts for your efforts

I'm at work on phone right now so can't link scans but Kakashi said Minato was going to add his elements to Rasengan but he never did it before his untimely death. Pretty sure those were his exact words. He didn't fail, he just never had time to do it. Between the war and being Hokage along with a wife and son on the way is evidence he probably never had time to actually do it.

Also Minato sealed Yin Kurama in him the same way he sealed Yang Kurama in Naruto. All he needed to do was fight Kurama mentally like Naruto did. Those who souls are sealed in the Death God fight for all eternity so Minato could have did it there.

 

[marik]

Let me try to explain it to you.

Rasengan, SM, KCM all take chakra control and chakra balancing. That's all you need to do, take your chakra and focus it on the skills.

Rasenshuriken however is so difficult that you need to take your chakra to control it then you need to take that chakra(the chakra that's currently busy stabalizing the rasengan) to add a nature element to it and control that element around it. Like kakashi said, it's like looking left and right at the same time, none of those other skills/abilities you mentioned are as tough as that; They're all just moderate or advanced chakra control techniques, things minto can do without breaking a sweat.

Let's not forget that naruto has never used rasenshuriken without extra help(be it shadow clones, chakra arms, bijuu). It's just impossible for one person to do it themselves.

Dude..what?your saying that frs is more difficult to use then sage mode or kyuubis chakra?and kakashi never said that,pa toad did.pa was explaining why naruto couldn't make more clones gather sage chakra

 

[brandonsheen]

It's just you.

 

[marik]

I'm at work on phone right now so can't link scans but Kakashi said Minato was going to add his elements to Rasengan but he never did it before his untimely death. Pretty sure those were his exact words. He didn't fail, he just never had time to do it. Between the war and being Hokage along with a wife and son on the way is evidence he probably never had time to actually do it.

Also Minato sealed Yin Kurama in him the same way he sealed Yang Kurama in Naruto. All he needed to do was fight Kurama mentally like Naruto did. Those who souls are sealed in the Death God fight for all eternity so Minato could have did it there.

Emphasis on the word "could" in your last sentence.the way you phrased your first post implied it was a fact.

I'll try to keep this thread up until you get off work if you'd like.shouldn't be too hard;it is a minato thread after all.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

Its not that he tried and failed to add his elements to his Rasengan. He just never did it before he died.

Minato can use KCM because he fought Kurama like Naruto did in the Death Gods stomach.

WRONG. we dont know whether he has wind element or not. if he did have wind element, then he could have pulled it off. so the fact that he didnt mean he doesnt have wind element. and he didnt fight kurama like naruto did. what is the point in fighting it..? kurama might have just give in. you can just analyze them from the events that took place in naruto. like, edo-kages were brought back to life after ten-tails was revived. kurama must have sensed his counterpart working with naruto and thought it would be best to submit himself.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Emphasis on the word "could" in your last sentence.the way you phrased your first post implied it was a fact.

I'll try to keep this thread up until you get off work if you'd like.shouldn't be too hard;it is a minato thread after all.

With all that time on their hands (16 years ) it is likely that instead of fighting Kyubi, he just befriended it, them being bound together for all Eternity and all. They speak to another kind of like Naruto and Kyubi

 

[General Lex]

WRONG. we dont know whether he has wind element or not. if he did have wind element, then he could have pulled it off. so the fact that he didnt mean he doesnt have wind element. and he didnt fight kurama like naruto did. what is the point in fighting it..? kurama might have just give in. you can just analyze them from the events that took place in naruto. like, edo-kages were brought back to life after ten-tails was revived. kurama must have sensed his counterpart working with naruto and thought it would be best to submit himself.

Maybe. Or simply beating being the originator of the the seal used and being the one to seal Kurama could have counted allowed Minato uncontested access to Kurama chakra.

 

[Valhorus]

Naruto mastered the Rasen - Shuriken only because he was able to do a milion of clones and practice without dying because Kurama was healing him . I don't know much ppl in this manga who has better chakra controll than Minato so yea it is just you . The FRS requires a lot of practise as stated in the manga and it was stated Minato died young and he didn't have enough time to add his element to the rasengan .

 

[Hata Hideaki]

Never mastered odama rasengan or put an element in it.apparently he tried but just wasn't skilled enough to pull it off...


Yet,he...


Learned how to gather sage energy and not transform.jiraiya had to get the elder toads to gather chakra and couldn't keep his human form


Then he gets kcm/bijuu mode and masters them perfectly.



If you compare him to naruto it gets even more tricky...


Minato couldn't advance the rasengan while naruto learned/mastered wind element,added it to rasengan,then used shape manipulation to create rasenshuriken(s rank) in less then 3 days


Minato had absolutely no problem using kyuubi chakra meanwhile naruto had to practice using the chakra arms and balancing tbb



Just a thought.what do you think?

i will clear all your doubts.

1. did you forget that he is the one who created rasengan in the first place..? its no surprise when you try a larger version of it. and when did he exactly use the odama rasengan in the war..? and add element to it.? do you know what his element is..? no right. then stop this about him not being able to pull it off. and do you know what jiraya said..? "he is a once in a lifetime prodigy". and you just blurted out that he wasnt "skilled" enough. so chose your words next time.

2. he must have trained it at mount myoboku. and you can't just pull sage mode out of your pocket whenever you like. and he did mention that he cant keep it for long and it takes him a lot of time to gather the energy. the sage toad who trained naruto already mentioned that "he surpassed his the both who came before him" meaning, both jiraya and minato. and the toad did say that not everyone can master the sage mode perfectly.

3. i already mentioned it in another post.

4. again, we still dont know what his element is.

5. well, this is tricky. i guess you cant compare both talent and hardwork. minato had talent while naruto had to work his butt off to master them.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Dude..what?your saying that frs is more difficult to use then sage mode or kyuubis chakra?and kakashi never said that,pa toad did.pa was explaining why naruto couldn't make more clones gather sage chakra

Yes, FRS is a lot more difficult to use than SM and KCM. KCM is just tapping into the chakra he stole from the kyuubi, how is that hard? SM is just balancing natural energy with your chakra; Once you train hard enough to be able to detect natural energy, it's not even hard.

Now for FRS; You need

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. It's like being told to

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at the same time when trying to add the high concentration also needed for the element adding.
FRS needs

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, then spatial and elemental recomposition to add the element. It's impossible. Manga Fact.


Side note: Where did you even get that minato never mastered oodama rasengan? Wht do you call

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? Lmfao.

 

[minatoisagod]

It's just you bro naruto has special chakra along with a tailed beast that heals him to help train faster.

 

[marik]

Yes, FRS is a lot more difficult to use than SM and KCM. KCM is just tapping into the chakra he stole from the kyuubi, how is that hard? SM is just balancing natural energy with your chakra; Once you train hard enough to be able to detect natural energy, it's not even hard.

Now for FRS; You need

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. It's like being told to

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at the same time when trying to add the high concentration also needed for the element adding.
FRS needs

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, then spatial and elemental recomposition to add the element. It's impossible. Manga Fact.


Side note: Where did you even get that minato never mastered oodama rasengan? Wht do you call

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? Lmfao.

Ok.your entitled to your opinion.Naruto is the one who knows frs.the difficulty of using it has never been emphasized,unlike sage mode.

If other people knew frs whos to say they couldn't use it?

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Rasengan itself takes 3 years to do by one hand, He was already an adult by then and he died in his early twenties

Its simply a matter of not having enough time for Rasenshuriken