[Debate] Is it implausible that a god exists?

[Krauq]

your 2 isn't a proof that god doesn't exist , you just define him , if that's sarcasm, then it's too advanced

so my reaons god exists are :

"If God never existed , We Have to make him exist " - Voltaire i think , but i actually think that _regardless of my own belief_ God Has to exist , for many reasons :

1- for those who will believe in him , that's necessary : they will always worship him , do as he commands , or , in some religions : Christianity for example : they will love him , and this relation of father-son will be a perfect resort for those who never experienced the paternal Love , i mean : having an limitless father , it feels like WOWWWW !!!

2- for those who won't believe in him , God's existence is necessary as well , for them to try and find an answer for the question : How humanity , the world , everything we explored so far existed , well um not talking abt the evolution crap , with all due respect , come one : is that the best science could reach ? LOL !


now for the Evidence that God exists or not :

well i won't tell you the usual crap : who created the world bla bla, but actually that's what believers call faith , they know God exists , and through the different religions they experience this existence in their own lives, sadly that's smth that's only accessible through religion.

now i'll be a little subjective :

"the Pascal's Bet : If God existed truly and i didn't believe , i'll go to hell , but if i did , in that case , um in paradise.
But , if God didn't exist , and i believed in him , i won't lose anything , on the contrary , i will live my life spreading good news , love and happiness through my "god's" commandments, and will be remembered as the good guy, if i didn't believe in him , well , it goes the other way , i can become someone who does harm to people, become hated and remembered as a criminal maybe"

so how to win this bet is to believe in god hoping that he exists so i can go to paradise , if he didn't , well , i will be remembered as a good person so i started that way , and i guess religion , not religious pple b/cse most of them are hypocrites sadly, will do the job , making you truly love god etcc.

Choose well (A) *dramatic leave*

Your first "reason" wasn't a reason at all, that was just you being emotional. "oooh we need love!"

I couldn't really understand the rest of what you said, bad grammar and spelling and all.

The thing about Pascal's Wager (or bet) is that there are thousands of religions and ideas of what an afterlife is like and you have a very low chance of picking the "right" religion. There are many religions that teach us how to act and think. What religion teaches the "objective" morality?

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

''I love God'' and ''I believe in God'' are dumbass expressions. Period.

Stop looking at 'it' as some external, omnipotent phenomena that'll bring justice to us. It's a delusional interpretation instilled by the church to keep people in line.

that's what religious pple caused , really am sorry for those who hate religion bcause of the priests or the false religious people corrupting the religion's true identity hmm how annoying

 

[King Of Crows]

That's just so wrong in so many ways lol but I won't waste my time explaining lol. It's 1:30 am here lol

They might have been a little aggressive in telling their own opinion, but it does not necessarily make them "wrong" just a little different from the way you view God

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Are you trying to say that God was at the absolute beginning ? ( before concept of time and space )

In the beginning GOD made the heavens and the earth! its said HE created the stars and days and hours! thus Brining the creation of time! yes HE was in the absolute beginning

 

[-Hatake-]

In the beginning GOD made the heavens and the earth! its said HE created the stars and days and hours! thus Brining the creation of time! yes HE was in the absolute beginning

You shouldn't ponder on topics like these, it'll drive you insane.

 

[Disquiet]

You're going to get a lot of yes and no Lol.


1. So far no evidence for one.



That's the thing, a lot of scientific discoveries and technologies today would have rocked our cerebrums thousands and thousands of years ago. What may not seem plausible today may very well be thousands of years from now.

 

[SoulKiller]

They might have been a little aggressive in telling their own opinion, but it does not necessarily make them "wrong" just a little different from the way you view God

people will relize in the end that they were wrong in there life but sadly they will relize that when it's too late and by to late I mean when there dead.

 

[Krauq]

In the beginning GOD made the heavens and the earth! its said HE created the stars and days and hours! thus Brining the creation of time! yes HE was in the absolute beginning

Wait wait wait wait.... That doesn't make any sense... God can't be in the "absolute beginning" because beginning means an event in time...

be·gin·ning
/biˈginiNG/
Noun
The point in time or space at which something starts.
Adjective
New or inexperienced: "a beginning gardener".
Synonyms
start - origin - outset - commencement - inception

 

[YowYan]

That's just so wrong in so many ways lol but I won't waste my time explaining lol. It's 1:30 am here lol

It's the plain truth. But I already know about your beliefs and you couldn't grasp my words before so let's just leave it at that :/

 

[King Of Crows]

In the beginning GOD made the heavens and the earth! its said HE created the stars and days and hours! thus Brining the creation of time! yes HE was in the absolute beginning

Okay, so you believe he is a sentient being, interesting. When you say, "its said", what are you referring to ?

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

Your first "reason" wasn't a reason at all, that was just you being emotional. "oooh we need love!"

I couldn't really understand the rest of what you said, bad grammar and spelling and all.

The thing about Pascal's Wager (or bet) is that there are thousands of religions and ideas of what an afterlife is like and you have a very low chance of picking the "right" religion. There are many religions that teach us how to act and think. What religion teaches the "objective" morality?

not "we" i honestly know pple who got religious just because they needed this love , so sorry to disappoint you but i wasn't emotional

the rest :

God has to exists so you can deny his existence, by finding the real cause of existence , you can even say it's a conflict source in a way or another. In other words , if you can't present a flawless theory on how the world was fund , i guess God is the only creator.

- true , Pascal's bet has this flaw , but you said the answer : "What religion teaches the "objective" morality?" both you and i know the answer , well it's not shown these days because of the so called religious priests , the derived the true religion fund originally. "objective morality" has a certain definition in my mind that makes me answer that it's Christianity were God is searching for man , and man has only to accept this invitation , leaving all the concrete and focusing on reaching heaven.

 

[King Of Crows]

Wait wait wait wait.... That doesn't make any sense... God can't be in the "absolute beginning" because beginning means an event in time...

be·gin·ning
/biˈginiNG/
Noun
The point in time or space at which something starts.
Adjective
New or inexperienced: "a beginning gardener".
Synonyms
start - origin - outset - commencement - inception

Technically, if there was an absolute beginning it may as well have been either before time was a concept or at exactly the same time that time was established. That is if you disregard the whole everything must have a creator theory, because then that means time would stretch infinitely ... which is a scary and yet amusing thought

 

[YowYan]

That would be in the case of Christianity, if you were being specific. What are thoughts on God ? Do you believe 'it' is a sentient being or something else ?

That's the case in most organized religions. The core teachings in any religious script, and I mean with the dogma left out, all support spirituality in terms of looking at god internally as you yourself are the universe in 1 drop for example. Organized religion teaches to look at god externally as if it's something separated from us. Some father-like figure.

It is not 'a being'. It is energy itself. Or vibrational emotion 'love'.

'God', as in the religious interpretation of it, is just a tool created to imprison our minds.

 

[sasori345]

If something looks designed, and if it's complex, it doesn't take a horde of scientists to prove to me (with peer reviewed papers) that it didn't make itself that way with no outside direction and input. It just takes common sense, logic and intelligence.

 

[Krauq]

not "we" i honestly know pple who got religious just because they needed this love , so sorry to disappoint you but i wasn't emotional

the rest :

God has to exists so you can deny his existence, by finding the real cause of existence , you can even say it's a conflict source in a way or another

- true , Pascal's bet has this flaw , but you said the answer : "What religion teaches the "objective" morality?" both you and i know the answer , well it's not shown these days because of the so called religious priests , the derived the true religion fund originally. "objective morality" has a certain definition in my mind that makes me answer that it's Christianity were God is searching for man , and man has only to accept this invitation , leaving all the concrete and focusing on reaching heaven.

God has to exist so I can deny his existence? But does that mean if I deny the existence of a unicorn that unicorns has to exist in the first place so I can deny the existence of that thing?

 

[FuChomei]

I am an athiest, I simply do not believe that a man just made the universe and decided how to rule his little creations.

 

[King Of Crows]

That's the case in most organized religions. The core teachings in any religious script, and I mean with the dogma left out, all support spirituality in terms of looking at god internally as you yourself are the universe in 1 drop for example. Organized religion teaches to look at god externally as if it's something separated from us. Some father-like figure.

It is not 'a being'. It is energy itself. Or vibrational emotion 'love'.

'God', as in the religious interpretation of it, is just a tool created to imprison our minds.

Thanks, that was interesting to read

 

[Krauq]

Technically, if there was an absolute beginning it may as well have been either before time was a concept or at exactly the same time that time was established. That is if you disregard the whole everything must have a creator theory, because then that means time would stretch infinitely ... which is a scary and yet amusing thought

Yeah, most scientists believe that the universe had a cause. However time would have to exist in the first place in order for an event to happen.

 

[Krauq]

That's the case in most organized religions. The core teachings in any religious script, and I mean with the dogma left out, all support spirituality in terms of looking at god internally as you yourself are the universe in 1 drop for example. Organized religion teaches to look at god externally as if it's something separated from us. Some father-like figure.

It is not 'a being'. It is energy itself. Or vibrational emotion 'love'.

'God', as in the religious interpretation of it, is just a tool created to imprison our minds.

If God is energy though, that would mean that he would be physical. And god being an emotion? So god would be a product of our brains?

 

[foxyladyland]

the only TRUE answer for anything like that question whether GOD exists is simply....

EXISTENCE is the supreme ruler ...existence is ETERNAL... only EXISTENCE... that word.