Is it hypocritical of America ....

[Ƒālconer]

The U.S. has them but they aren't building them.The UN has issued the dismantle of all nuclear bombs years ago.
The process of taking them apart is difficult and still being done today.A country like iran with its constant threads to other countries well being and its own is more then enough to say "hey stop making bombs." No good will come out of it.


I do not know what your extent of knowledge is on the actual topic but i suggest you go look into it more.It is a very complicated matter.

I agree... its seems like the OP here just wants to brand America a hypocrite

 

[The Infernal Spirit]

Everyone talks crap about the United States.
Every country has its problems.

I do not pretend to know the ins and outs of other countries yet i never fail to see a kid or even an adult put in there two cents about what is going on in the United States even when they don't live here.


This is a free country.

That leads to much problems as everyone has been fighting for what they believe they are entitled to and what they can do in this country.With freedom comes great progress and enlightened thinkers as well as anarchist and degenerates.But that is what makes this country so great.

Take freedom of speech for example many people use it for good and others bad.

At least we have the opportunity to make these decisions instead of having everything regulated for us.

 

[Moebius]

I'm not saying America is an angel or saying they aren't hypocrites and I don't want to throw everyone on the bandwagon here but Iran honestly can't be trusted with Nuclear Weapons

While America ( The only country who actually used nuclear weapons on living people ) can U_U

 

[The Infernal Spirit]

I agree... its seems like the OP here just wants to brand America a hypocrite

Its easy to paraphrase some reporter or bloggers opinion back onto the internet.

Most people only know what they do know of the States through headlines lol

 

[NagatoAme]

Everyone talks crap about the United States.
Every country has its problems.

I do not pretend to know the ins and outs of other countries yet i never fail to see a kid or even an adult put in there two cents about what is going on in the United States even when they don't live here.


This is a free country.

That leads to much problems as everyone has been fighting for what they believe they are entitled to and what they can do in this country.With freedom comes great progress and enlightened thinkers as well as anarchist and degenerates.But that is what makes this country so great.

Take freedom of speech for example many people use it for good and others bad.

At least we have the opportunity to make these decisions instead of having everything regulated for us.

I am well in agreement with you ,

I enjoy being an American and detest such common stereotypes that I come to view over the internet that label all of us as degenerates, overweight, greedy, lazy, etc. As it be that all is not demeaning enough that humanity strikes down one another without a second thought.

 

[Ƒālconer]

Everyone talks crap about the United States.
Every country has its problems.

I do not pretend to know the ins and outs of other countries yet i never fail to see a kid or even an adult put in there two cents about what is going on in the United States even when they don't live here.


This is a free country.

That leads to much problems as everyone has been fighting for what they believe they are entitled to and what they can do in this country.With freedom comes great progress and enlightened thinkers as well as anarchist and degenerates.But that is what makes this country so great.

Take freedom of speech for example many people use it for good and others bad.

At least we have the opportunity to make these decisions instead of having everything regulated for us.

I agree again, people just want to put the dart on America. What about Europe and Asia nobody says anything about them. If anyone is being a hypocrite its the people who target only one country

 

[Rayder]

I'm not saying America is an angel or saying they aren't hypocrites and I don't want to throw everyone on the bandwagon here but Iran honestly can't be trusted with Nuclear Weapons

And you say that I'm branding and generalizing. I trust Iran with Nuclear Weapons if the USA can be trusted with them. Look at it from the Iran point of view, for fucks sake, two of their biggest enemies have nuclear weapons they are just keeping their country safe. Also which country used the weapons twice, and it wasn't Iran, so you can't go on about trust.

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I agree... its seems like the OP here just wants to brand America a hypocrite

And weren't you the one branding all Iranians not to be trusted with Nuclear Weapons in your previous post.

 

[NagatoAme]

While America ( The only country who actually used nuclear weapons on living people ) can U_U

Your comment isn't justified, NO ONE knew the capability and damage a nuclear bomb could cause at that point, and its use enlightened everyone as to why not to utilize it, that in itself being the mere idea of Nagato's plan with the Bijuu weapon. AND America did not simply drop the bomb on the Japanese suddenly, the US had given the Japanese warnings and time to evacuate the two cities, but out of ignorance(the lack of knowledge) of what the bomb could do, many citizens refused to leave Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 

[Moebius]

I agree again, people just want to put the dart on America. What about Europe and Asia nobody says anything about them. If anyone is being a hypocrite its the people who target only one country

Let Europe or Asia rule the world and then they'll be targeted. Nobody likes the guy on top. It's in the human nature.
Besides, what America does has far more consequences to the world, than the actions of any other world government.

Your comment isn't justified, NO ONE knew the capability and damage a nuclear bomb could cause at that point, and its use enlightened everyone as to why not to utilize it, that in itself being the mere idea of Nagato's plan with the Bijuu weapon. AND America did not simply drop the bomb on the Japanese suddenly, the US had given the Japanese warnings and time to evacuate the two cities, but out of ignorance(the lack of knowledge) of what the bomb could do, many citizens refused to leave Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Again, propaganda. The truth is that USA dropped the bombs, after capitulation of Japan was signed, just to test the weapons.

 

[The Infernal Spirit]

I am glad that there are some people in this thread that don't see everything so black and white.Gray areas exist whether we acknowledge them or not.Well i said what i had to say on the matter.I am trying to cut back down on arguing with others so it will not
tarnish or make people over look any previous statement that i have posted that was intended to propel this debate into a positive direction.

 

[Ƒālconer]

And you say that I'm branding and generalizing. I trust Iran with Nuclear Weapons if the USA can be trusted with them. Look at it from the Iran point of view, for fucks sake, two of their biggest enemies have nuclear weapons they are just keeping their country safe. Also which country used the weapons twice, and it wasn't Iran, so you can't go on about trust.

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And weren't you the one branding all Iranians not to be trusted with Nuclear Weapons in your previous post.

I have different opinions on that. I'm not saying all Iranians can't trusted, look at the Iranian government, they want to wage war against Israel, and yes Israel isn't an angel either and yes they are responsible for atrocities themselves. But honestly, would you feel comfortable with Iran and country known for its threats.
Here is a list of reasons why Iran can't be trusted.
(1)
Their president, Ahmadinejad, has declared that he wants to “wipe Israel off
the face of the Earth”.

(2)
He has threatened to block oil exports from his region to the rest of the world.

(3)
Iranian rebels took Americans hostage in 1977 in the American embassy in Iran.

(4)
Iran tried to form an alliance with other oil-producing nations around ten years
ago with whom which it would stop trading oil in US dollars as the currency of
exchange; you’ll have to research that one yourself.

(5)
Russia recently offered to process Iran’s uranium into Energy-Grade plutonium.
Iran refused to allow it; Iran wishes to process its uranium on its own which could
mean into Weapons-Grade plutonium.

This was widely-spread news in the media. You can’t say that there is some sort
of conspiracy because Russia is an ally of Iran.

(6)
(I’m sure that there is more information that you and I don’t know about but that
intelligence agencies have in their possession.)

 

[NagatoAme]

And you say that I'm branding and generalizing. I trust Iran with Nuclear Weapons if the USA can be trusted with them. Look at it from the Iran point of view, for fucks sake, two of their biggest enemies have nuclear weapons they are just keeping their country safe. Also which country used the weapons twice, and it wasn't Iran, so you can't go on about trust.

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And weren't you the one branding all Iranians not to be trusted with Nuclear Weapons in your previous post.

While I understand your points, I have to agree with the more biased views so help me God, as I feel you have not read up much on the current stakes and are lacking alot of research of this controversial issue. Iran isn't making nuclear weapons to protect itself, or it would protest that constantly, which it has not done much in comparison to their leader's promise of destroying Israel. I feel most of the Iranian populace and population, who themselves do not want nor agree with having possession of nuclear weapons, might subject to the idea of defense, but it is not their ideals that commands a country run by a sole leader.

 

[Grim]

I'm not saying America is an angel or saying they aren't hypocrites and I don't want to throw everyone on the bandwagon here but Iran honestly can't be trusted with Nuclear Weapons

dude, America nuked two civilian city's in one go and if you think America is trusted your mistaken. Why else rest of the world disslikes America?

 

[Gene the Machine]

dude, America nuked two civilian city's in one go and if you think America is trusted your mistaken. Why else rest of the world disslikes America?

dude they trew one bomb and the japanese still didnt stop the war so they trew one more.. they r self too blame..
learn some history.. who attacked who overthere..

 

[Ƒālconer]

dude, America nuked two civilian city's in one go and if you think America is trusted your mistaken. Why else rest of the world disslikes America?

I can't argue on behalf of that, America was desperate to end WWII and so they where driven to drop the A-Bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. And if anyone is to blame for that is the Japanese government, even after Hiroshima was bombed they continued the war. America isn't a freaking angel, look at what Europe has done too... Europe is home to countless oppressive and destructive Regimes like Nazi Germany and Communist Russia that have killed millions of people and people say America is the bad guy.. look at yourself before you go talking ****

 

[Moebius]

dude they trew one bomb and the japanese still didnt stop the war so they trew one more.. they r self too blame..

And killed bunch of innocent civilians who had nothing to do with that decision.

 

[Jin Hayami]

The world needs less nukes not more.

 

[Moebius]

The world needs less nukes not more.

Amen to that.

 

[The Infernal Spirit]

While I understand your points, I have to agree with the more biased views so help me God, as I feel you have not read up much on the current stakes and are lacking alot of research of this controversial issue. Iran isn't making nuclear weapons to protect itself, or it would protest that constantly, which it has not done much in comparison to their leader's promise of destroying Israel. I feel most of the Iranian populace and population, who themselves do not want nor agree with having possession of nuclear weapons, might subject to the idea of defense, but it is not their ideals that commands a country run by a sole leader.

"Again, propaganda. The truth is that USA dropped the bombs, after capitulation of Japan was signed, just to test the weapons."

"dude, America nuked two civilian city's in one go and if you think America is trusted your mistaken. Why else rest of the world disslikes America?"



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I know i said my last post was the last one but i have to say one more thing.

I cite the quoted lines above when i say what i'm about to say.

These people clearly have no formal knowledge of this particular subject's history.

They also clearly give no inclination to actually want to further any kind of understanding of the history either.

Talking to them will not resolve and feelings they may harbor against the United States.Or there misguided political views.

From the rhetorical nature of there post they also don't seem intent on actually discussing the matter in a mannerly way.

I suggest you leave it be.

But if you can withstand it kudos you have more patient then i could ever hope to amount.

 

[kourosh]

hi!
i'm from Iran!i don't think our government is after nuclear weapons but this situation is very complicated,mostly because of the history between two countries and also because our government suck at international policy!in other hand the decisions and actions of U.S government in not fair to us...because as you pointed out they have weapons themselves,but when we wannah use it in peaceful ways they won't let us!
these difficulties exist because the two governments don't trust each other at all!