Is it Hashirama's fault??

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yeah sort of he should have created peace and equality xd but uchiha should have bargained for more instead of settling like madara did

But the thing is he tried his best.. but then came along those old ass counslars and Danzo (these people are NOT senju). Hashirama had stuff under his control pretty good. but the guy didn't live that long (just like Alexander The Great ) smh






1. Yes, he might have been tricked into thinking he was dead though.

2. Nah, he did his best. If not, konoha would have simply crushed the other villages.

3. a hundred times YES! I wouldn't say it was his fault in particular but whoever set up the government should have put two representatives for equal power between senju and uchiha. That would have solved everything.

4. Yeah partially. I would blame it more on Madara and Tobirama though.

1 yes i agree

2. i agree

3. But if madara became hokage do you really think he would have let hashirama give away the tailed-beasts?? and have created peace??.

4. why tobirama??:confused:
 

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But the thing is he tried his best.. but then came along those old ass counslars and Danzo (these people are NOT senju). Hashirama had stuff under his control pretty good. but the guy didn't live that long (just like Alexander The Great ) smh








1 yes i agree

2. i agree

3. But if madara became hokage do you really think he would have let hashirama give away the tailed-beasts?? and have created peace??.

4. why tobirama??:confused:
3. Even so, it was the right thing to do. Everything would have been avoided. Plus, i dont think madara is THAT dense

4. Konoha police force
 

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3. Even so, it was the right thing to do. Everything would have been avoided. Plus, i dont think madara is THAT dense

4. Konoha police force



3. Well, Considering Madara didn't want peace in the first place.. And then He had trouble giving the Hokage position to Hashirama. Do you really believe he isn't that dense ;p :p


4. Konoha police was actually a trust thing. Tobi himself stated that to. But, like always people have wrong way of thinking. IF uchiha had used the "Konoha Police" in the right way.. they would have actually been the leading clan. BECAUSE after the village was created Senju faded away. But the uchiha were still uchiha
 

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3. Well, Considering Madara didn't want peace in the first place.. And then He had trouble giving the Hokage position to Hashirama. Do you really believe he isn't that dense ;p :p


4. Konoha police was actually a trust thing. Tobi himself stated that to. But, like always people have wrong way of thinking. IF uchiha had used the "Konoha Police" in the right way.. they would have actually been the leading clan. BECAUSE after the village was created Senju faded away. But the uchiha were still uchiha

3. He wants peace. He made up the tsukuyomi plan.

4. No, it said "to ensure there were no more traitors"
plus it back fired later
 

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3. He wants peace. He made up the tsukuyomi plan.

4. No, it said "to ensure there were no more traitors"
plus it back fired later

3. This basicaly leads us back to.. the big brother and the liltle brother fight.
Madara wanted peace through power. Hashirama through love.

4. Well, You need a sign of trust so there won't be any traitors.

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3. This basicaly leads us back to.. the big brother and the liltle brother fight.
Madara wanted peace through power. Hashirama through love.

4. Well, You need a sign of trust so there won't be any traitors.

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3. Eventually they would have come to a compromise, or at least they wouldn't be beating the crap out of each other xd

4. It backfired and it's pretty much tobirama's fault.
he didnt intend for it to be that way tho.
 

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3. Eventually they would have come to a compromise, or at least they wouldn't be beating the crap out of each other xd

4. It backfired and it's pretty much tobirama's fault.
he didnt intend for it to be that way tho.


3. LOL ;x so true. But i think its better this way.. The other way Madara could have cause a civil war.

4. It backfired because Non-Senju started controlling konoha. and The third hokage was a wimp
 

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3. LOL ;x so true. But i think its better this way.. The other way Madara could have cause a civil war.

4. It backfired because Non-Senju started controlling konoha. and The third hokage was a wimp

3. Doubtful, seeing as they trashed him when he tried that.

4. Nah. It backfired because the hokage was being passed down almost like a monarchy...
 

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3. Doubtful, seeing as they trashed him when he tried that.

4. Nah. It backfired because the hokage was being passed down almost like a monarchy...



3. Well if he had become Co-hokage.. he would have had alot of influence.. and could have turned a civil war..

4. But it really wasn't being passed down like a monarchy. There was always a approval by the Jounin and the Feudal lord. Also, uchiha were the only clan in the leaf who wanted surpriority.... I mean the senju had faded away. This is all Danzo's fault if you ask me. and also the Third hokage's. I find the second hokage not-guilty
 

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honestly i think the senju clan is the true evil people in the **************? why cause they basically made the uchiha suffer?
 

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3. Well if he had become Co-hokage.. he would have had alot of influence.. and could have turned a civil war..

4. But it really wasn't being passed down like a monarchy. There was always a approval by the Jounin and the Feudal lord. Also, uchiha were the only clan in the leaf who wanted surpriority.... I mean the senju had faded away. This is all Danzo's fault if you ask me. and also the Third hokage's. I find the second hokage not-guilty

3. Nah

4. It's kind of his fault.
 

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3. Nah

4. It's kind of his fault.

3. Sasuke's father was leading a coup'd. ;x lol what would have stopped madara... plus even after he survived hashirama, He didn't change his views smh.

4. his fault for making the Uchiha Konoha's military.
 

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sure blame it on the mexican am i the only one who thinks hes a adoted mexican

More like a indian.

honestly i think the senju clan is the true evil people in the **************? why cause they basically made the uchiha suffer?

Well the uchiha made the senju suffer too. o_O. Also i really don't recall any senju makin the uchiha suffer. :confused:
 

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3. Sasuke's father was leading a coup'd. ;x lol what would have stopped madara... plus even after he survived hashirama, He didn't change his views smh.

4. his fault for making the Uchiha Konoha's military.

3. Why would he change his views if he had been abandoned and beat the crap out of? i would be more pissed if i were him

4. yes >_>
 

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3. Why would he change his views if he had been abandoned and beat the crap out of? i would be more pissed if i were him

4. yes >_>



3. Well he wasn't Abandoned.. He CHOSE to leave.. plus i think they probably did have a talk during their fight. So only if they show the bloody fight >_<.

4. well then uchiha screwed themselfes up.
 

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3. Well he wasn't Abandoned.. He CHOSE to leave.. plus i think they probably did have a talk during their fight. So only if they show the bloody fight >_<.

4. well then uchiha screwed themselfes up.

1. because he was abandoned >_<

2. it's also the Senju's fault.
 

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madara just used izanagi i think to survive then he implanted senju dna a bit so he could live further and then he just hid himself i think. hashirama could've been fooled by izanagi
 
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