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that naruto does not have RSM? why would he not have the TSB or the cloak from his fight versus madara. the misconception with RSM is that RSM is only his eyes changing and not having the iris around his eyes, the cloak isn't depicting him in RSM, the cloak is him in bijuu mode or KCM, and the TSB and eyes are RSM. Which would mean, Naruto can use the TSB and that sage mode without having the chakra cloak active, am i wrong?

anyway, in the last, does naruto have regular sage mode eyes? i don't see why they would power him down :(
 

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No, the mode Naruto uses is more of a betweener. He still has it.
 

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I'm sure he'll use his power in part 3, so people should just wait.
 

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No, the mode Naruto uses is more of a betweener. He still has it.


My thoughts exactly. This could be like the mode Naruto used to first fight Madara. He obviously has some sort of Rikkudo chakra active within this mode.
 

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he is shown using regular frog sage mode eyes with KCM/BSM since he used kurama.

no ability from RSM was shown, and naruto was shown losing a lot of chakra some he only got back because of hinata.

everybody has their spoilers/powers from the manga, but naruto. for some reason he has been downgraded

even when hinata gets kidnapped, or the earth has little time before the moon crashes in to it, he does not use RSM,

conclusion : HE lost RSM.
 

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he is shown using regular frog sage mode eyes with KCM/BSM since he used kurama.

no ability from RSM was shown, and naruto was shown losing a lot of chakra some he only got back because of hinata.

everybody has their spoilers/powers from the manga, but naruto. for some reason he has been downgraded

even when hinata gets kidnapped, or the earth has little time before the moon crashes in to it, he does not use RSM,

conclusion : HE lost RSM.

Naruto's the meeting place for all 9 Bijuu. He only called Kurama out during the movie.

If he met with the Bijuu and gained their chakra, he would of been able to enter RSM.


dont even compare base RSM with naruto from the last.

in the last naruto is never shown touching one of toneri's watered down TSB's.

How the hell were those things watered down?

It split the moon in half and can absorb chakra from others on a moment's notice
 
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Naruto's the meeting place for all 9 Bijuu. He only called Kurama out during the movie.

If he met with the Bijuu and gained their chakra, he would of been able to enter RSM.

ok, i need you to explain this to me, why didn't he do that? why didn't he meet with all the bijuu and gained their chakra to go RSM? when hinata his loved one is kidnapped, and the moon is about to crash down on the earth and kill everyone?

why didn't he go RSM, when sasuke is shown with rinnegan and using his teleport jutsu?

why didn't he go RSM, when everybody else in NV is shown with their spoiler from the manga(kakashi no sharingan)(wheel chair gai)
not only that theres a intro to the movie which spoils everything in the manga.

so theres no logical reason for naruto not to use RSM while the world is in danger other than he lost it.
 

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ok, i need you to explain this to me, why didn't he do that? why didn't he meet with all the bijuu and gained their chakra to go RSM? when hinata his loved one is kidnapped, and the moon is about to crash down on the earth and kill everyone?

why didn't he go RSM, when sasuke is shown with rinnegan and using his teleport jutsu?

why didn't he go RSM, when everybody else in NV is shown with their spoiler from the manga(kakashi no sharingan)(wheel chair gai)
not only that theres a intro to the movie which spoils everything in the manga.

so theres no logical reason for naruto not to use RSM while the world is in danger other than he lost it.

You're trying to rationalize that Didn't use it = Doesn't have it.

Maybe he believed all he needed was Kurama. Maybe after getting his chakra reserves nuked and stolen did he believe it was a bad idea to get 8 times the amount and risk making Toneri stronger than he already was.

Maybe SP and Kishi didn't want Naruto to straight up beat his ass.

Maybe if he went RSM and nuked Toneri, Hanabi would still be blind.

There's all these speculations on both of our parts but one thing that's undeniable is Naruto still has Ōtsutsuki Chakra.

In the movie he used it to directly negate Ōtsutsuki chakra and justu. I guarantee that when he did it, he was using Ying-Yang release.
 
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For the record no one used any manga exclusive skills in the movie, even things like neji death was not even highlighted in the movie, despite it being used to push the pairing. Also movie doesn't confirm this.
 

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not this $#!t again
why do people take anime movie this seriously
 

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ok, i need you to explain this to me, why didn't he do that? why didn't he meet with all the bijuu and gained their chakra to go RSM? when hinata his loved one is kidnapped, and the moon is about to crash down on the earth and kill everyone?

why didn't he go RSM, when sasuke is shown with rinnegan and using his teleport jutsu?

why didn't he go RSM, when everybody else in NV is shown with their spoiler from the manga(kakashi no sharingan)(wheel chair gai)
not only that theres a intro to the movie which spoils everything in the manga.

so theres no logical reason for naruto not to use RSM while the world is in danger other than he lost it.

We went over this yesterday...and the day before that....and the day before that XD

Why does anyone in the NV not use all their abilities when they should have?

Why didn't Madara use any of his techs in his fight with Gai, Naruto, Sasuke?

Why didn't Sasuke use his 6 paths during his fight with Naruto?

Why didn't Naruto use his Truth Seeking Balls against Sasuke?

Why didn't Kaguya use any Paths techniques or Sharingan Techs when she has all 3 eyes?

Why didn't Sasuke use the Rinnegan in "The Last"

One simple reason:

Kishiton: Plot no Jutsu
 

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There is no solid proof he lost it he just didn't need it to fight that fodder toneri if you see the whole fight you'll know why he didn't need it naruto beat this dude with one punch the dude didn't even scratch naruto
 

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There is no solid proof he lost it he just didn't need it to fight that fodder toneri if you see the whole fight you'll know why he didn't need it naruto beat this dude with one punch the dude didn't even scratch naruto

first of all, toneri pretty much negged naruto twice in the movie.

the first time he literally caused naruto's chakra to come out of him causing a big explosion. naruto was out for 3 days and it took sakura giving him most of her chakra to heal him.

2nd time was during the final battle, toneri after being beat in the fight absorbed all of naruto's chakra making him drop to his knees, hinata however gave naruto her chakra which has hamura chakra
 

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We went over this yesterday...and the day before that....and the day before that XD

Why does anyone in the NV not use all their abilities when they should have?

Why didn't Madara use any of his techs in his fight with Gai, Naruto, Sasuke?

Why didn't Sasuke use his 6 paths during his fight with Naruto?

Why didn't Naruto use his Truth Seeking Balls against Sasuke?

Why didn't Kaguya use any Paths techniques or Sharingan Techs when she has all 3 eyes?

Why didn't Sasuke use the Rinnegan in "The Last"

One simple reason:

Kishiton: Plot no Jutsu

He's right.

OT: Naruto still has RSM, don't worry about those people saying he doesn't have it, they only use the movie as a proof.
 

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We went over this yesterday...and the day before that....and the day before that XD

Why does anyone in the NV not use all their abilities when they should have?

Why didn't Madara use any of his techs in his fight with Gai, Naruto, Sasuke?

Why didn't Sasuke use his 6 paths during his fight with Naruto?

Why didn't Naruto use his Truth Seeking Balls against Sasuke?

Why didn't Kaguya use any Paths techniques or Sharingan Techs when she has all 3 eyes?

Why didn't Sasuke use the Rinnegan in "The Last"

One simple reason:

Kishiton: Plot no Jutsu

good enough.
 

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I'm sure he'll use his power in part 3, so people should just wait.

I agree with this, we should see what adult Naruto uses before we jump to conclusions, kishi loves to make fools out of ppl who think they know ALL there is to know about Naruto.
 

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dont even compare base RSM with naruto from the last.

in the last naruto is never shown touching one of toneri's watered down TSB's.


I will compare it to what I think it can be compared to thank you very much. You're begging the question. You're passing off Naruto having to not touch the TSBs of Toneri as evidence that he's weaker than base RSM Naruto since you attribute Toneri's TSBs as weak, yet, the only reason to think they're sup-par is because of Naruto's success to them, but that's under the assumption Naruto isn't strong. It's an endless cycle of reliance.
 
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