[Debate] Is it A Woman Human Right To Abort Her Baby? Or Is Abortion A Privilege?

[Joon]

From a Biblical/Christian standpoint, God is justified in murder. Humans aren't allowed to take life because we did not give it, we literally don't have the right. God gave life, so he has the right to take it back, as it is his to give. Not saying I agree with it, but you can't actually challenge a Christian's notion that murder is wrong with this

The woman gave life in this instance, so they have a right.

dude this is offensive don't play with peoples religion man.

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It's not offensive. It's true (according to the bible). Stop being sensitive.

 

[Yubel]

I literally just think 2 lives being needlessly ruined forever through unwanted childbirth is way more tragic than one of the lives thankfully coming to fruition.

Why does everyone forget that you can put it up for adoption? You get what you want and you didn't kill the baby.

 

[Dark Sonic]

It really depends on the circumstances. If she was raped or the baby is costing her health, then yes. If not, then no.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Why does everyone forget that you can put it up for adoption? You get what you want and you didn't kill the baby.

That's a nightmare in itself though. The foster care system is notoriously known as shady, so the kid will probably grow up with all these complexes. Not to mention the abandonment the child would feel it's whole life and try to fill. It's hard to come out of foster care a regular person.

Then the mom, especially after giving birth to the baby. Will always know they have a kid out there somewhere, which will stain their life. And once the kid makes it out of that hell, and if it still wants to meet the parent. The mom is gonna feel like shit even more after seeing the choice she ignored come back as a disappointed adult.

Having a baby you know you'll send to foster care, is sending them to an extremely tough life.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It really depends on the circumstances. If she was raped or the baby is costing her health, then yes. If not, then no.

How does an abortion fix rape?

 

[Yubel]

That's a nightmare in itself though. The foster care system is notoriously known as shady, so the kid will probably grow up with all these complexes. Not to mention the abandonment the child would feel it's whole life and try to fill. It's hard to come out of foster care a regular person.

Then the mom, especially after giving birth to the baby. Will always know they have a kid out there somewhere, which will stain their life. And once the kid makes it out of that hell, and if it still wants to meet the parent. The mom is gonna feel like shit even more after seeing the choice she ignored come back as a disappointed adult.

Having a baby you know you'll send to foster care, is sending them to an extremely tough life.

Life circumstances forced them to make that decision, it's still better than killing them and don't act like you know how their whole life is going to unfold.

 

[Pride]

Why does everyone forget that you can put it up for adoption? You get what you want and you didn't kill the baby.

Many women might not want to have the burden of abandoning a child on their shoulder or having the child think you never loved or cared for them. Conservatives in the usa dont want abortions yet they insult people on welfare and government aid and are against the government taking care of the baby and the mother. Doesnt a small government means you dont have anything to do with a womans reproductive issues? i dont know kagetora you tell me kage...

It really depends on the circumstances. If she was raped or the baby is costing her health, then yes. If not, then no.

What of if she cant afford to take care of it,and she has no money?

 

[Angelic.]

yup. and a woman shouldnt be forced to become fat and give childbirth if she dont wanna. not by a government and not by strangers on nb

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Life circumstances forced them to make that decision, it's still better than killing them and don't act like you know how their whole life is going to unfold.

I've actually met tons of foster kids, my aunt that I lived with for years growing up was a social worker. I know exactly, and the majority of foster kids have a tough life and deep issues.

 

[Dark Sonic]

How does an abortion fix rape?

It doesn't but it's not really normal for a woman to raise said child. It's really her choice to abort it. Another thing I forgot to add is also if it was also through incestuous rape. (Which is a really bad case)

 

[kuchiyosenojutsuironmaidn]

Where I come from, there is no right and wrong; just right and left.

Abortion is a form of killing, just like murder, suicide, and extermination. No circumstances change that. Justification is subjective. The two prevailing arguments seem to be rape and malignancy. I feel Riker covered the rape part (no objections here).

As for malignancy, this does not change anything. Even if a woman was raped and then the doctor told her that she would die if she carried to term, the fact remains that to abort the baby is to kill the baby.

If you were pushed off a cliff while holding a baby, as unfair as it is, you both would fall to your deaths; no compromise.

If a woman's egg merges with a man's seed, a life will form; no compromise.

To abort the baby in the second scenario has the same effect as using the baby to break your fall or to latch onto something in the first. Right or wrong? I will not make the call. Just sayin'


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[Yubel]

Many women might not want to have the burden of abandoning a child on their shoulder or having the child think you never loved or cared for them. Conservatives in the usa dont want abortions yet they insult people on welfare and government aid and are against the government taking care of the baby and the mother. Doesnt a small government means you dont have anything to do with a womans reproductive issues? i dont know kagetora you tell me kage...

Simple logic dude, better they stay alive than dead. You can maybe contact the child and just see how it's doing, you could let it know the situation you were in etc, show them love and affection. They will heal if you do that, welfare for children who really need it and welfare for entitled people who want to be lazy are different.

I've actually met tons of foster kids, my aunt that I lived with for years growing up was a social worker. I know exactly, and the majority of foster kids have a tough life and deep issues.

You're giving them a fighting chance, there are so many people in the world who had the odds against them and still ended up living a great life, it's better than killing them, making excuses, rationalize your actions and numb yourself to it with drugs and alcohol the rest of your life.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Where I come from, there is no right and wrong; just right and left.

Abortion is a form of killing, just like murder, suicide, and extermination. No circumstances change that. Justification is subjective. The two prevailing arguments seem to be rape and malignancy. I feel Riker covered the rape part (no objections here).

As for malignancy, this does not change anything. Even if a woman was raped and then the doctor told her that she would die if she carried to term, the fact remains that to abort the baby is to kill the baby.

If you were pushed off a cliff while holding a baby, as unfair as it is, you both would fall to your deaths; no compromise.

If a woman's egg merges with a man's seed, a life will form; no compromise.

To abort the baby in the second scenario has the same effect as using the baby to break your fall or to latch onto something. Right or wrong? I will not make the call. Just sayin'


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These prophecies...!


@Pride I haven't thought of that only the two situations. I'm already indecisive between personal and logical.

 

[BLAZE]

dude this is offensive dont play with peoples religion man.

lol da F :|
Religion plays with People's life every now and then smh

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Simple logic dude, better they stay alive than dead. You can maybe contact the child and just see how it's doing, you could let it know the situation you were in etc, show them love and affection. They will heal if you do that, welfare for children who really need it and welfare for entitled people who want to be lazy are different.

You would think that but no, I've met kids who wondered why they were even alive. You have to figure, a mother who goes through pregnancy just to give the baby away, most likely won't be keeping up with it. So why even bring it into the world?

It's like only being a vehicle to bring something into a already tough existence but missing a parent or guide. While if you get rid of the baby and save it the trouble of having to live a terrible life. It's killing yes, but people with religious beliefs shouldn't think that baby is just gone. It should have a soul right? Maybe actually you're actually allowing the soul to come into existence in a better scenario.

 

[kuchiyosenojutsuironmaidn]

You would think that but no, I've met kids who wondered why they were even alive. You have to figure, a mother who goes through pregnancy just to give the baby away, most likely won't be keeping up with it. So why even bring it into the world?

It's like only being a vehicle to bring something into a already tough existence but missing a parent or guide. While if you get rid of the baby and save it the trouble of having to live a terrible life. It's killing yes, but people with religious beliefs shouldn't think that baby is just gone. It should have a soul right? Maybe actually you're actually allowing the soul to come into existence in a better scenario.

Sooo.... if you were given a choice, not knowing what you know now about the world, would you choose not to be born? Life isn't always funtimes and sunshine, but I'm glad I got the privilege of at least seeing for myself, and the right to see it through. Just sayin'.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Sooo.... if you were given a choice, not knowing what you know now about the world, would you choose not to be born? Life isn't always funtimes and sunshine, but I'm glad I got the privilege of at least seeing for myself, and the right to see it through. Just sayin'.

Yeah I would want to be born. If I had to begin life in foster care though no.

 

[Yubel]

You would think that but no, I've met kids who wondered why they were even alive. You have to figure, a mother who goes through pregnancy just to give the baby away, most likely won't be keeping up with it. So why even bring it into the world?

It's like only being a vehicle to bring something into a already tough existence but missing a parent or guide. While if you get rid of the baby and save it the trouble of having to live a terrible life. It's killing yes, but people with religious beliefs shouldn't think that baby is just gone. It should have a soul right? Maybe actually you're actually allowing the soul to come into existence in a better scenario.

Whether it's right or wrong, good or bad. We have no right to make that judgement about someones life.

 

[Corgi]

I think the abortion should be up to the rapist to decide. The woman should have no say in the matter. If the rapist wants the abortion, then it should go through. But if he wants the woman to give birth, the the abortion shouldn't be allowed.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Whether it's right or wrong, good or bad. We have no right to make that judgement about someones life.

No one is entitled or has the right to exist, otherwise death wouldn't be a concept.