[Debate] Is it A Woman Human Right To Abort Her Baby? Or Is Abortion A Privilege?

[Jazzy Stardust]

It's a privilege, if it was a right they would have an eject button of some sort.

Before this privilege was bestowed a lot of women would have to accept rape babies or fall down a set of stairs, etc. When before when technology wasn't as advanced, and the abortion process was hard to get a doctor to do.

It's definitely a privilege of technology and science, is it a right? Sure, women shouldn't have to be forced to bring a kid into the world. But you also have to be real enough to accept you're murdering something.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doesn't matter- no one can force a person to donate or lend his body part to another regardless of the fact whether it would save another person or not - uterus is no exception. They must have permission of the owner.

For the rest- refer to the previous thread on the topic.

You cannot impede on a woman's personal rights, including those that are health-related for the sake of the baby's. However, you are impeding on the baby's for the sake of the woman. You can't force a woman to sacrifice 9 months of comfort and slightly increase her risk of danger, but you can decide to forcibly sacrifice the baby's entire lifetime, wrenching away its existence for the sake of the woman. Hypocrisy is hypocritical.

Should abortion be legalized? No. Is abortion a women's right or a privilege? It is neither a privilege or a right. Women should not abort.

Certain humans are idiots; humans with erroneous logic think that having unprotected *** okay, that there are no risks of pregnancy.

You shouldn't be ****ing without a condom if you are not planning to have an offspring, and if you are ****ing without a condom, take maximum precautions.

Abortion is NOT okay.

Abortion should be legalized because, whether or not it's legal, women who want an abortion will get it. No one is pro-abortion. We are, however, pro having a safe procedure because it will happen. At least with legalized abortion, the woman doesn't put herself in danger of dying by having an abortion through a clothes hanger or stranger in an alleyway or underground operation. Abortion may be wrong, but people will do it when it's needed. The least that can be done is ensuring these people don't kill themselves in the process and/or mangle the baby by disrupting its development in a botched abortion.

 

[paratise]

Yes it is a basic human right. People have full ownership of their bodies and in first stages of pregnancy the organism is less concious than a bird.

Abortion is not a desirable thing to do, people who decide to do so have good reasons to abort.

 

[BLAZE]

Abortion is not a desirable thing to do, people who decide to do so have good reasons to abort.

This right here

 

[Joker]

Should abortion be legalized? No. Is abortion a women's right or a privilege? It is neither a privilege or a right. Women should not abort.

Certain humans are idiots; humans with erroneous logic think that having unprotected *** okay, that there are no risks of pregnancy.

You shouldn't be ****ing without a condom if you are not planning to have an offspring, and if you are ****ing without a condom, take maximum precautions.

Abortion is NOT okay.

There's layers and lines, does the pregnancy put the mother at risk? Was the baby a result of incest and/or rape? Should anyone have a say in what a grown woman decides to do with her own body? Abortions are more than just the results of two people have *** without a condom or birth contro. There's scenarios and situations.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes it is a basic human right. People have full ownership of their bodies and in first stages of pregnancy the organism is less concious than a bird.

Abortion is not a desirable thing to do, people who decide to do so have good reasons to abort.

1. Ah, so we define alive by how conscience you are? I suppose this means fungi and plants aren't actually living things. I suppose this also means I can kill someone so long as I knock them unconscious first. I can go into a hospital's coma ward and just start slitting throats because, as you put it, they're less conscience as a bird.

2. People have full ownership of their bodies, but do they have full ownership of the life inside of it? Enough with this viewpoint, it's incredible how much it downplays the full weight of the situation. The woman's body is NOT the only factor of this equation. Whether or not abortion is right is drawn by one thing and one thing only: Weighing the woman against the developing life inside her. It's not weighing the woman's rights against morality, it's weighing 9 months of discomfort and a slightly increased chance of danger against the lifetime of the baby. This is a heavy situation, it's actually kind of disgusting to see people downplay it and try to decrease its weight to a matter as simple as "It's the woman's body only." It's not, and it's about time we stop pretending it is.

 

[Yubel]

Well that is debatable, at week 10 a baby heart is already formed and has started brain activities so clearly from that point scientifically it is a human being. The question is under what circumstances is abortion ok? i think rape and incest and life of mother should be the primary and fundamental exceptions.

There are babies born without a brain so scientifically they're not human beings, does that make it ok to kill them?

 

[Pride]

This right here

Thats debatable. Is not having to be able to have *** during pregnancy a reason to abort a baby? You better wake up.

 

[BLAZE]

Thats debatable. Is not having to be able to have *** during pregnancy a reason to abort a baby? You better wake up.

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[Yubel]

1. Ah, so we define alive by how conscience you are? I suppose this means fungi and plants aren't actually living things. I suppose this also means I can kill someone so long as I knock them unconscious first. I can go into a hospital's coma ward and just start slitting throats because, as you put it, they're less conscience as a bird.

2. People have full ownership of their bodies, but do they have full ownership of the life inside of it? Enough with this viewpoint, it's incredible how much it downplays the full weight of the situation. The woman's body is NOT the only factor of this equation. Whether or not abortion is right is drawn by one thing and one thing only: Weighing the woman against the developing life inside her. It's not weighing the woman's rights against morality, it's weighing 9 months of discomfort and a slightly increased chance of danger against the lifetime of the baby. This is a heavy situation, it's actually kind of disgusting to see people downplay it and try to decrease its weight to a matter as simple as "It's the woman's body only." It's not, and it's about time we stop pretending it is.

I agree with this, it pisses me off how people act like the life growing inside the womb doesn't matter because it's inconvenient.

 

[Punk Hazard]

There's layers and lines, does the pregnancy put the mother at risk? Was the baby a result of incest and/or rape? Should anyone have a say in what a grown woman decides to do with her own body? Abortions are more than just the results of two people have *** without a condom or birth contro. There's scenarios and situations.

Rape is a non-factor, actually.

1. The baby did not cause the rape. It's not right that the baby has its life stripped away from happening for the action of another.

2. Abortion won't unrape you. Yes, it's cruel to say, but it's true. An abortion will not remove the trauma you sustained from rape. The pregnancy and baby being a reminder of the rape doesn't justify an abortion because you're not going to forget it happened if the pregnancy is terminated. In fact, many women who have abortions say that it's had a giant toll on their emotional health in of itself. Chances are, an abortion won't help towards the trauma of rape, but will do the opposite and increase your overall trauma by adding the trauma that it carries to the trauma of your rape.

3. Do you have the right to tell someone what to do with their own body AND do we have the right to sacrifice the baby's lifetime. Both are the questions that are relevant to the topic, not just one.

The woman being in danger because of the pregnancy is a valid point tho

 

[Pride]

There are babies born without a brain so scientifically they're not human beings, does that make it ok to kill them?

The conditions in which babies are born without parts of their brain or skull is Anencephaly and the prognosis is DEATH!

 

[Joon]

I agree with this, it pisses me off how people act like the life growing inside the womb doesn't matter because it's inconvenient.

God killed people. z.z

Correction: God killed developing humans.

 

[Punk Hazard]

God killed people. z.z

From a Biblical/Christian standpoint, God is justified in murder. Humans aren't allowed to take life because we did not give it, we literally don't have the right. God gave life, so he has the right to take it back, as it is his to give. Not saying I agree with it, but you can't actually challenge a Christian's notion that murder is wrong with this

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I literally just think 2 lives being needlessly ruined forever through unwanted childbirth is way more tragic than one of the lives thankfully coming to fruition.

 

[ahmo]

Christianity says neither, pregnancy should be within a marriage institution, if women do get married before conceiving, the prospect of abortion wouldn't even be brought up.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I literally just think 2 lives being needlessly ruined forever through unwanted childbirth is way more tragic than one of the lives thankfully coming to fruition.

This is under the implication that things like adoption don't exist and that both parties automatically will suffer for the rest of their lives, which is extremely faulty thinking

 

[Ripple Hole]

Yup, I believe they should have the right to make the choice of not having a dent
in their time and money, or potentially having a child with unfavorable conditions.
Potential children are ruined each day on fapping, not like I'd view this much differently.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

This is under the implication that things like adoption don't exist and that both parties automatically will suffer for the rest of their lives, which is extremely faulty thinking

Mm true. I think it also works the other way round though.

Some mothers consider the idea of adoption as a starting point in life to be needlessly tough enough to put somebody through to go through with it. Idk, can't speak with experience. It's definitely a huge handicap you'd carry through life.

 

[Pride]

God killed people. z.z

Correction: God killed developing humans.

dude this is offensive dont play with peoples religion man.