Is Himawari's Byakugan a Kekkei Mōra? Questions about Hima's eyes.

[salamander uchiha]

KKM means it is unique


Kaguya has a KKM and her offspring but Boruto and Hima have unique variants of whatever that we didn't see before

The proof that kekkei Mora means unique? Colours of dojutsu don't fall into the category of kekkei Mora your going to need a lot more than that.

Again KKM as in unique bloodline

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The ONLY white one's is a photoshop edit, fan art or by translating byakugan's name.


Also the feats that her byakugan granted, seconds after awakening it never have occured before in the HISTORY of the Hyuga clan.


And Hiashi, etc... said you have to go through Harsh training to unlock the eye in the first place, let alone learning GF to compliment it.

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Kaguya's Byakugan is like other Byakugan, yet is kekkei Mora. Himawari doesn't meet the criteria necessary for her eyes to fall I to the category of kekkei Mora.

The rest of your theory is based around heavy speculation and assumptions.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

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Kaguya's Byakugan is like other Byakugan, yet is kekkei Mora. Himawari doesn't meet the criteria necessary for her eyes to fall I to the category of kekkei Mora.

The rest of your theory is based around heavy speculation and assumptions.

why doesn't it met the criteria?

again you conclude with no answers


Find me similar feats and the same exact eye in the history of Naruto

 

[salamander uchiha]

why doesn't it met the criteria?

again you conclude with no answers


Find me similar feats and the same exact eye in the history of Naruto

Define Kekkei Mora from canon.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Define Kekkei Mora from canon.

Uniqueness

Not just being connected to Kaguya since eventually we will see other Sage of Sixth tier people that Naruto and Sasuke will fight


a)Any eye that looks like Hima's? (NO)
b)Any person so far that unlocked it like Hima? (NO)
c)Any person that did the same feat as Hima after just unlocking it? (NO)




They even said it twice in the anime that Hima is an odd case

 

[Reboryushon]

Man if Lord Ao show Byakugan being able to use Genjutsu it will signify end for Sharingan and its fanboys.

The Sharingan is unique. We can see that the Byakugan has its features, exactly like the Sharingan, both of them together would make the perfect dojutsu.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Uniqueness

Not just being connected to Kaguya since eventually we will see other Sage of Sixth tier people that Naruto and Sasuke will fight.

I asked for a canon definition of Kekkei Mora which also requires referencing from manga or databook. Not from opinion of what qualifies as kekkei Mora.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

I think it's possible because the Byakugan within the iris are generally light shaded lavender which is the same trait Neji and Hinata has.

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On the other hand, Himawari Byakugan takes completely unprecedented because her color is almost as pure as white.

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In fact, I did notice Himawari Byakugan is tinted blue which is almost resemblance to Boruto joagan.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

I asked for a canon definition of Kekkei Mora which also requires referencing from manga or databook. Not from opinion of what qualifies as kekkei Mora.

again MR. Salt

Is Himawari's byakugan normal

can you look at how Neji and Hinata trained with theirs and how their eyes looked and say


Yup same thig.

You can't argue with me when even characters in the series implied that she was different.



Kaguya's KKM is unique comapred to everyone else in the Narutoverse. Hima's byakugan so far is unique compared to other byakugan's seen in the universe.


You cant try and say something else but it isn't a normal byakugan.


Hence why they sealed it away.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

KKM means it is unique


Kaguya has a KKM and her offspring but Boruto and Hima have unique variants of whatever that we didn't see before

you saying it is a normal byakugan doesn't solve the question of them making it a different colour and sealing it away




it wasn't even named
They just concluded it as a byakugan when Hinata never saw it or Hiashi, etc.... and has been dormant for 5-6 years after.

but it is a byakugan in a sense.... and I am not saying it is its own dojutsu

Kaguya's eyes are also called byakugans.

I am not saying it is Kaguya's direct eyes I am saying it is a unique bloodline variant eye of the byakugan.


Unless you can prove to me that we

a) Saw a similar eye colour before
b) had them unlock it via non harsh training like Hima
c) be able to do that GF feat seconds after unlocking without ever training to use GF, etc...

I don’t really need to prove any of that, as all I’m saying is it’s not a kkm if it’s called a byakugan, which they have so far. I get what your saying, but the byakugan is considered a kkm for kaguya because it originated with them, if hima has a new eye that originated with her(and possibly boruto) from mixing hyuga and uzumaki blood then yes, it would be a kkm. But considering her family knew, one of them knows a decent amount of experience with hyuga and the byakugan, and the other IS a hyuga but didn’t really mention anything new, I’ll stick with kkg for now. What all her feats do undoubtedly point to is prodigy status, but not a kkm yet

Edit: did they really seal it away? I don’t remember that part
Just to add, only kaguya(byakugan) and hago(rinnegan) are classified as having a kkm, which lends wight to what I’m saying. As the rinnegan as we know it started with hago, and the byakugan as we know it, started with kaguya. The definition of kkm is pretty ambiguous, so you can’t really tell me I’m any more right or wrong than you about it

 

[salamander uchiha]

again MR. Salt

-irrelevant fanfic-.

I'm Mr salt because I ask you to define Kekkei Mora from canon manga or databook.

Just provide the canon definition of Kekkei Mora. Thanks.

 

[Belserion]

It's a KKG.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

I don’t really need to prove any of that, as all I’m saying is it’s not a kkm if it’s called a byakugan, which they have so far. I get what your saying, but the byakugan is considered a kkm for kaguya because it originated with them, if hima has a new eye that originated with her(and possibly boruto) from mixing hyuga and uzumaki blood then yes, it would be a kkm. But considering her family knew, one of them knows a decent amount of experience with hyuga and the byakugan, and the other IS a hyuga but didn’t really mention anything new, I’ll stick with kkg for now. What all her feats do undoubtedly point to is prodigy status, but not a kkm yet

Edit: did they really seal it away? I don’t remember that part

as in writers sealed it away. Hiashi stated that it went dormant again after that event.

also as a dojutsu it is a byakugan
but what I mean by KKM is that it isn't a regular byakugan

like how Kaguya has all these KKG moves but are different then regular KKG moves like the ASH Bone or the God Vacuum Palm



Hima did a one seal finger hit that also sealed Kuruma, with the added bonus of never training for it prior.


Something Neji couldn't do who trained hard and was considered a genius

 

[123fire]

Don't worry we'll know that in fillers and omakes/OVAS

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Its just a regular Byakugan, there's nothing special about it tbvh.

Giving a Kekkei Mora to Himawari would be pretty much the same mistake they did when they gave Hinata Hamura's chakra. A waste, so I doubt they'll commit the same mistake.

can you state why

since animators, the hyuga clan and Naruto think other wise

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Himawari's Byakugan >>> Sasuke's Rinnegan

Based on manga facts that Rinnegan Sasuke lost to Naruto while Byakugan Himawari one shot Naruto and Kurama with low diff.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So far we got :

- Byakugan precognition confirmed

- Byakugan ability to see fates of other people

- Byakugan > Sharingan in Bijuu suppression.

Man if Lord Ao show Byakugan being able to use Genjutsu it will signify end for Sharingan and its fanboys.

Don't forget:

- Byakugan > Sharingan in insight as said by Sharingan user Kakashi.

- Byakugan's best offense > Sharingan's best defense

- Tsukyomi also doesn't work on Byakugan users.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

as in writers sealed it away. Hiashi stated that it went dormant again after that event.

also as a dojutsu it is a byakugan
but what I mean by KKM is that it isn't a regular byakugan

like how Kaguya has all these KKG moves but are different then regular KKG moves like the ASH Bone or the God Vacuum Palm



Hima did a one seal finger hit that also sealed Kuruma, with the added bonus of never training for it prior.


Something Neji couldn't do who trained hard and was considered a genius

Read the addition to the edit. @bold, I’m in the logical belief they didn’t revisit the topic cause it was a lighthearted kinda moment to begin with, but i know you don’t, so I won’t use that here. What I will say is that it is literally a tissue paper thin argument to use for the case of her eye being a kkm, as we can say the writers “sealed away” a ton of powers/jutsu over the course of the series

 

[Belserion]

Don't forget:

- Byakugan > Sharingan in insight as said by Sharingan user Kakashi.

- Byakugan's best offense > Sharingan's best defense

- Tsukyomi also doesn't work on Byakugan users.

Lol what?

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[salamander uchiha]

Don't worry we'll know that in fillers and omakes/OVAS

Have you read the posts(fanfic) it's a kekkei Mora because it's not a regular Byakugan

That's like me saying EMS is a Kekkei Mora because it's not like a regular MS. Or MS is a kekkei Mora because it's not a regular Sharingan.

The worst thing is they can't even define Kekkei Mora from manga or canon, yet they're arguing for Hima's Byakugan to be a kekkei Mora.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Don't forget:

- Byakugan > Sharingan in insight as said by Sharingan user Kakashi.

- Byakugan's best offense > Sharingan's best defense

- Tsukyomi also doesn't work on Byakugan users.

True but those are well known facts.

Don't forget that Byakugan > Kotoamatsukami the strongest Sharingan Genjutsu.