Is hebi Sasuke really stronger than a kage

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[Asmin]

Dunno, I don't see any Kage surviving Kirin.

 

[jamarcusp17]

Imo with the speed and force ay was coming down I think he still would of hit sasuke while being impaled. Sasuke was pretty physically weakened at this point, sasuke would of been hit by whatever ay was doing(leg drop?) and ay getting impaled neji style by Enton. I get that normally spikes like that might stop ay but the Enton spikes are ama, I'd like to think they would of went right through him, killing him yes, but not sufficiently slowing him down to stop him from getting sasuke. That's just my personal take on it though, I could be wrong

In any case, the difference between Amaterasu and a regular fire is Amaterasu is inextinguishable. I haven't heard about it burning hotter or being tangible. It wouldn't pierce through skin like a sword.

 

[shelke]

Mid Kage tier easily as Orochimaru put him above 3 tails Naruto. He wasn't impressed with him at all.

Gaara was protecting the whole village while fighting deidara, and hebi barely made it out of that fight alive, he nearly got owned by the kage as ms sauce(ay almost took him out "solo")I think low kage is a good level for hebi

He used no C1 or C2 bombs on him. Only used C3 on the village, which Gaara stopped before it detonated and Gaara was already on his last leg before it. He whooped his ass on his home turf. He beat him badly. Very badly and without any intel on his gourd abilities; he analyzed them on the spot. So, he only protected the village once and lost well before it.

Who owned him? Bar Onoki, no Kage took him alone. He wasn't even fighting him. Raikage got owned with two Jounins helping him. Gaara's attack got smacked away with three jounins helping him. Mei couldn't even push him into the hall on her own. What are you talking about?

Kakashi > Hebi Sasuke

There's a gulf of difference in experience, not to mention Kakashi's other advantages. But yeah, Hebi Sasuke is Kage-level.

If Choujurou and Kurotsuchi can be Kage, then Hebi Sasuke definitely is.

Nothing Kakashi has done is even remotely impressive in regards to battle experience. His breakdown of techniques is sloppy and slow. His best on the battlefield is beaten by the worst tactics Sasuke has put out. On the field, tactics is all that matters and the gulf between him and Sasuke is pretty damn wide.

 

[jamarcusp17]

Dunno, I don't see any Kage surviving Kirin.

Lol I see all Kage surviving Kirin. Ay's chakra affinity is lightning, so that automatically takes him out of the equation. Tsunade's body was stabbed by a Susano'o sword and even cut entirely in half, yet, she survived it because of her 100 Healings Mark. Both Gaara and Ohnoki shielded attacks from Madara himself, including a free-falling meteor. Mei is the only one who comes close to not surviving it, but even she has two Kekkei Genkais and all five nature types, so you can't really count her as dead, either.

 

[Jokule67]

Hebi Sasuke is not Stronger than Tsunade.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Hebi Sasuke is not Stronger than Tsunade.

He's far stronger than Tsunade. Sasuke beat Diedara and Tsunade is not even a frontline fighter. Shes a medic ninja.

 

[Jokule67]

He's far stronger than Tsunade. Sasuke beat Diedara and Tsunade is not even a frontline fighter. Shes a medic ninja.

That doesnt prove he is stronger. Abc logic in that case.

He cannot kill her and its possible she can block his movements with katsuyu. She can land hits unlike Sakura. Her monstrous power with be fatal to Sasuke. Genjutsu can be broken by Katsuyu also. He is not stronger than Tsunade. Kage level yes, on her level yes. Can he win, yes. But he is not definitively stronger.

Tsunade also has a chance at beating him.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Low level kage at best. Lol at the Ppl bringing up ms sasuke as if that bolsters their argument.

 

[LoZelda101]

he took out deidara on his own, when the latter had support from obito and sasuke didnt have intent to kill. same deidara who took out gaara, kazekage. hebi sasuke is a solid kage level ninja.

yeah, i'd like to see tsunade or base jiraiya accomplish these feats.

 

[LoZelda101]

That doesnt prove he is stronger. Abc logic in that case.

He cannot kill her and its possible she can block his movements with katsuyu. She can land hits unlike Sakura. Her monstrous power with be fatal to Sasuke. Genjutsu can be broken by Katsuyu also. He is not stronger than Tsunade. Kage level yes, on her level yes. Can he win, yes. But he is not definitively stronger.

Tsunade also has a chance at beating him.

show me feats of tsunade 1 on 1. i'll wait

 

[King Of Pop]

=Jokule67;20753858]That doesnt prove he is stronger. Abc logic in that case.

He cannot kill her and its possible she can block his movements with katsuyu.

he can if he cuts her head off. pretty sure tsunade is not immortal so wtf is with that statement?. lol @ at katusyu blocking his movements

She can land hits unlike Sakura.

no she cant. her style is the same as sakura, run and punch. nothing complex, no form of diversion involved, just a simple linear dash. a reflexive sharingan user would trash such a style 10 out of 10 times. sasuke in an injured state, dealt with something far more complex than that in bees unorthodox 7 sword dance which he fended off initially. Tsunades style is childs play in comparison

Her monstrous power with be fatal to Sasuke.

irrelevant when she cant land a hit on him. punching the ground wont do anything since sasuke would anticipate with sharingan and simply shunshin away. chidori spear severes her limbs since sasuke can swing it from a distance. or he impales her with it, switches it to chidori true spear and severes her from several angles

Genjutsu can be broken by Katsuyu also. He is not stronger than Tsunade. Kage level yes, on her level yes. Can he win, yes. But he is not definitively stronger.

since when can summon break you out of genjutsu? he is easily stronger than her. she cant prevent herself from getting tagged by him and he can avoid her attacks since he has the advantage in speed and reactions

Tsunade also has a chance at beating him.

no she doesnt. she gets beaten med dif at most.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I passionately disagree and have found most people outside of this forum place him around low Jonin. Not that rankings even matter in this series but Kage is a touch ridiculous.

 

[Jokule67]

he can if he cuts her head off. pretty sure tsunade is not immortal so wtf is with that statement?. lol @ at katusyu blocking his movements


no she cant. her style is the same as sakura, run and punch. nothing complex, no form of diversion involved, just a simple linear dash. a reflexive sharingan user would trash such a style 10 out of 10 times. sasuke in an injured state, dealt with something far more complex than that in bees unorthodox 7 sword dance which he fended off initially. Tsunades style is childs play in comparison



irrelevant when she cant land a hit on him. punching the ground wont do anything since sasuke would anticipate with sharingan and simply shunshin away. chidori spear severes her limbs since sasuke can swing it from a distance. or he impales her with it, switches it to chidori true spear and severes her from several angles


since when can summon break you out of genjutsu? he is easily stronger than her. she cant prevent herself from getting tagged by him and he can avoid her attacks since he has the advantage in speed and reactions

no she doesnt. she gets beaten med dif at most.

Ill start off by saying yes Katsuyu has chakra so yes she can break genjutsu.

We've seen Sasuke fight Naruto multiple times and get hit, dont act like he dodged everything bro. Tsunade is a master "5" taijusu user with "5" strength. Sasuke has never cut any heads off and Tsunade wont allow it nor katsuyu, he cannot kill her.

Nothing Sasuke has can put her down and she can bait Sasukr into thinking hes landed something fatal to get the drop on him. Its happened before.

I understand how you think Sasuke takes this but I can see him losing. Shiy next you'll clsim he can beat Jiraiya

 

[My One Post]

Probably gonna be alone saying this but Hebi Sasuke is definitely NOT kage level strength.

I put him on par with Kakashi, probably a bit below. HEAR ME OUT BEFORE YOU JUMP ON ME THOUGH!

Reason being, every fight Hebi Sasuke won, he had a GIANT advantage.
With Orochimaru, his body was rejecting him so he wasn't even close to his full strength, on top of that Sasuke got him with a surprise attack to start the battle. Sharingan genjutsu feats in that battle were impressive though

With Deidara, Sasuke would of been dead 100 times over if he didn't have a natural affinity to the one element that counters and nullifies Deidara's bombs. He was literally the WORST possible matchup for Deidara, yet he barely escaped with his life even with that giant advantage. He showed impressive smarts though-out the entire battle though.

With Itachi, he was already dying and resolved himself to die to Sasuke's hand. Even towards the beginning of the battle it was made obvious that Itachi wasn't close to his prime yet he still defeated and sealed Orochimaru's giant snake form while also having the opportunity to kill Sasuke at the end.

So I'll stand by my belief that hebi Sasuke is no greater than A-rank, and would get fodder stomped by ANY kage (keep in mind he struggled mightly even with his mangekyou sharingan and assistance from his team and zetsu at the kage summit, plus him and Kakashi were fighting on basically even footing at that point even with his susano'o)

 

[Shogo Makishima]

That doesnt prove he is stronger. Abc logic in that case.

He cannot kill her and its possible she can block his movements with katsuyu. She can land hits unlike Sakura. Her monstrous power with be fatal to Sasuke. Genjutsu can be broken by Katsuyu also. He is not stronger than Tsunade. Kage level yes, on her level yes. Can he win, yes. But he is not definitively stronger.

Tsunade also has a chance at beating him.

If tsunade is placed under a genjutsu how will she be ableto summon katsuyu. Sasukes summons trump or stalemate Tsunades as well. Forget close combat, Sasukes sharingan and speed trumps Tsunade in any close combat encounter.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Probably gonna be alone saying this but Hebi Sasuke is definitely NOT kage level strength.

I put him on par with Kakashi, probably a bit below. HEAR ME OUT BEFORE YOU JUMP ON ME THOUGH!

Reason being, every fight Hebi Sasuke won, he had a GIANT advantage.
With Orochimaru, his body was rejecting him so he wasn't even close to his full strength, on top of that Sasuke got him with a surprise attack to start the battle. Sharingan genjutsu feats in that battle were impressive though

With Deidara, Sasuke would of been dead 100 times over if he didn't have a natural affinity to the one element that counters and nullifies Deidara's bombs. He was literally the WORST possible matchup for Deidara, yet he barely escaped with his life even with that giant advantage. He showed impressive smarts though-out the entire battle though.

With Itachi, he was already dying and resolved himself to die to Sasuke's hand. Even towards the beginning of the battle it was made obvious that Itachi wasn't close to his prime yet he still defeated and sealed Orochimaru's giant snake form while also having the opportunity to kill Sasuke at the end.

So I'll stand by my belief that hebi Sasuke is no greater than A-rank, and would get fodder stomped by ANY kage (keep in mind he struggled mightly even with his mangekyou sharingan and assistance from his team and zetsu at the kage summit, plus him and Kakashi were fighting on basically even footing at that point even with his susano'o)

He was fighting on par with the strongest kage at the time (A). A simple A rank shinobi wouldn't give any kage level a hard time.Maybe you forgot how mmuch intel they had prior to meeting Sasuke and thehokages were fighting with their elite body guards. Against Diedara he literally blitzed him and Diedara was a kage level fighter as well people need to stop giving Diedara excuses because he was hella strong and Sasukes win solidifies his position.

 

[My One Post]

He was fighting on par with the strongest kage at the time (A). A simple A rank shinobi wouldn't give any kage level a hard time.Maybe you forgot how mmuch intel they had prior to meeting Sasuke and thehokages were fighting with their elite body guards. Against Diedara he literally blitzed him and Diedara was a kage level fighter as well people need to stop giving Diedara excuses because he was hella strong and Sasukes win solidifies his position.

I give you that he was fighting on par with the strongest kage for the moment. But remember that was whilst spamming susano'o and amaterasu. Both are HUGE chakra drainers. His chakra would have been used up relatively quickly had the Raikage used any strategy in that battle. But all this is besides the point.

That was MS Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke has no susano'o or amaterasu to spam as defense so I repeat, he'd be fodder stomped.

No one is giving Deidara any excuses. My reasons are valid. Much like Tenten vs Temari, Sasuke was the worst possible matchup for Deidara. A guy that can fly, to avoid your mines and reach you in the air, with a lightning affinity to cancel out and nullify your only form of offense. Near the beginning of the battle Deidara filled Sasuke's body with his bombs which were all nullified by his chidori nagashi.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Jokule67;20754294]Ill start off by saying yes Katsuyu has chakra so yes she can break genjutsu.

Tsunades best bet is to avoid genjutsu all together, if she is caught nothing stops sasuke from finishing her off before she can do anything, let alone summon katusyu. but my argument is not based on genjutsu so ill leave it at that.

We've seen Sasuke fight Naruto multiple times and get hit, dont act like he dodged everything bro. Tsunade is a master "5" taijusu user with "5" strength. Sasuke has never cut any heads off and Tsunade wont allow it nor katsuyu, he cannot kill her.

base naruto? he always utilizes clones against sharingan sasuke and thats the only time he manages to tag him otherwise he would get stomped except sasukes sharingan is off. Tsunade doesnt have clones and her style is different from naruto so irrelevant. you are bringing DB stats instead of showing me how those stats would matter here, so nothing to counter really.

bold. never done something=/=cant do it especially when he has intel of byakugou so cutting her down would be a way to defeat her regeneration. and you are even wrong at that

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"Tsunade wont allow it" is not an argument lol, come on man. katuyu? sasuke snake summons handle her or he fries her with raiton

Nothing Sasuke has can put her down and she can bait Sasukr into thinking hes landed something fatal to get the drop on him. Its happened before.

if he bisects her with chidori eiso, removes her head, she is finished so you are wrong. bold how though? tell me how she would do that? sure she can employ that strategy if sasuke gets close with chidori but sasuke doesnt need to when he has sharp spear that he can swing from a distance and remove her limbs.

I understand how you think Sasuke takes this but I can see him losing. Shiy next you'll clsim he can beat Jiraiya

why would saying sasuke beats tsunade equate to saying he beats jiriaya? jiriaya=/=Tsunade

 

[Shogo Makishima]

I give you that he was fighting on par with the strongest kage for the moment. But remember that was whilst spamming susano'o and amaterasu. Both are HUGE chakra drainers. His chakra would have been used up relatively quickly had the Raikage used any strategy in that battle. But all this is besides the point.

That was MS Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke has no susano'o or amaterasu to spam as defense so I repeat, he'd be fodder stomped.

No one is giving Deidara any excuses. My reasons are valid. Much like Tenten vs Temari, Sasuke was the worst possible matchup for Deidara. A guy that can fly, to avoid your mines and reach you in the air, with a lightning affinity to cancel out and nullify your only form of offense. Near the beginning of the battle Deidara filled Sasuke's body with his bombs which were all nullified by his chidori nagashi.

Skills sAsuke gained through training. Sasuke also has fire affinity, summoning, genjutsu its called being a versatile shinobi something Sasuke has adapted to. Again an A rank shinobi would have no chance against an Akatuski member.