Is hebi Sasuke really stronger than a kage

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To be honest, the kage power tier is not as high as everyone perceives it to be. Hebi Sasuke is low Kage level with his power being well above Kakashi and Gaara. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but I believe Hebi Sasuke could take down Tsunade on his own.
i dont think that opinion is unpopular. he does med dif Tsunade
 

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Dont lie bra...

Orochimaru said that sasuke wasn't on the same level as tree tail naruto witch i know now that he was lying to provoke him since orochimaru was always getting his ass ****ed and needed to change of body constantly to survive kn4

And whe know that healthy orochimaru >>>>>>>> hebi sasuke

(even kn3 naruto ripped orochimaru arms and had him to change bodys so that he wouldnt die soo :yeah:)

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He said Sasuke was stronger than Naruto and he was right.
 

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To be honest, the kage power tier is not as high as everyone perceives it to be. Hebi Sasuke is low Kage level with his power being well above Kakashi and Gaara. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but I believe Hebi Sasuke could take down Tsunade on his own.

No it isn't an unpopular opinion. But I believe the opposite. But that doesn't mean Sasuke can't win or he gets stomped. Everyone seems to think that Tsunade is just going to lose badly to him without taking in account the feats she preformed against Edo Madara ( a guy who not only had EMS, but Mokuton and the Rinnegan)

Not only that she had to take on 5 Mokuton copies of Madara each with their own legged Susanoo. (All 5 Kage had to do this) and while the others were struggling and loosing, Tsunade had 2 Susanoo blades in her body and was still punching and shattering and protecting the others all the while.

Now taking those feats against an opponent waaaay stronger than Hebi Sasuke, why is it so hard for everyone to believe Tsunade can win this?
 
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He's kage lvl no doubt! But kage lvl's vary from shinobi to shinobi..

In his era of kages, I'd say he can beat lady Tsuna probably!.. (probably)

I can't see him beating Ay,Mei,Onoki,Gaara on his own with 3 Tomoe or Mangekyo..
 

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since when did elemental advantage=automatic win? its one thing to have the elemental advantage its another to actually be strong enough to apply it and make it count. otherwise by that logic, MS sasuke>kcm naruto because he can neutralize KCM narutos strongest attacks(Choufrs) with amaterasu.

he would found another way to beat him, thats what would have happened. he had another back up option if hes raiton wouldnt have been able to nullify deidaras clay bombs
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Amaterasu takes advantage of the wind to be stronger din't you hear Yamato's explanation?

Sasuke did great agains't deidara but it is a fact that his lightning afinities where to him a great help to them in the fight he used his inteligence and lightning afinities to go over that fight but is more then obvious that deidara had greater chakra them him along with his DC
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Amaterasu takes advantage of the wind to be stronger din't you hear Yamato's explanation?

Sasuke did great agains't deidara but it is a fact that his lightning afinities where to him a great help to them in the fight he used his inteligence and lightning afinities to go over that fight but is more then obvious that deidara had greater chakra them him along with his DC
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Diedara could easily beat Sage mode Naruto thats for sure.
 

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Umari Senju said:

You basically said nothing in terms of actual arguments. Sasuke easily keeps up and overwhelms her in CQC as he has kept up with MS Itachi, someone a good way above her in striking speed and taijutsu expertise, plus had kenjutsu and precog skills with 3T that allowed him to fend off Bee's 8-sword-dance, at least for a while. Tsunade won't ever land the one hit she needs on him unless you can show me otherwise, especially not in his CM1 or CM2 state. All forms of speed are increased, but what gives Sasuke the win is his much greater reach thanks to his sword, plus he can also to temporarily impair Tsunade and cut her apart in that window, not that he needs it. One limb gone is basically gg for Tsunade. Sasuke can also summon a number of other snakes to help in his offense which makes this even more of a slaughter. Manda is a given, which by itself is enough or at least enough to , but that also gives him access to all other snakes Oro possessed, as proven by . That means he can summon these: [ ][ ][ ]. There's also Chidori Nagashi for stunning and even more chance to end it with a slash or two. Hebi Sasuke's taijutsu by itself is enough to incapacitate or kill Tsunade, all his other CQC arsenal makes this a definite win for him.
 
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Nice fanfic. No he can't...at all actually. By this logic that means Deidara can beat 5 of the 6 paths of Pain too :lmao:

Diedara is bad matchup for SM Naruto and his destructive capacity is much larger. Just using Naruto fap logic.
 

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You basically said nothing in terms of actual arguments. Sasuke easily keeps up and overwhelms her in CQC as he has kept up with MS Itachi, someone a good way above her in striking speed and taijutsu expertise, plus had kenjutsu and precog skills with 3T that allowed him to fend off Bee's 8-sword-dance, at least for a while. Tsunade won't ever land the one hit she needs on him unless you can show me otherwise, especially not in his CM1 or CM2 state. All forms of speed are increased, but what gives Sasuke the win is his much greater reach thanks to his sword, plus he can also to temporarily impair Tsunade and cut her apart in that window, not that he needs it. One limb gone is basically gg for Tsunade. Sasuke can also summon a number of other snakes to help in his offense which makes this even more of a slaughter. Manda is a given, which by itself is enough, but that also gives him access to all other snakes Oro possessed, as proven by . That means he can summon these: [ ][ ][ ].

If Tsunade can land a punch in Madara she can land a punch on Sasuke? Mistakes get made on the battlefield. There are all sorts of ways for Tsunade to land a punch. She is a critical thinker too. She has EXPERIENCE. so what would Sasuke do when she does that brain signal alteration tech she did on Kabuto? Kabuto was able to figure it out eventually but he also took hits because of it. Tsunade has enough in her arsenal to land a punch. Without a Susanol to take the hit, It's gonna hurt.

Tsunade is a tank. Most of the damage Sasuke would do to her would be ranked and instantly healed thanks to Byakugou.

I gave you feats but you dismiss them as "Sasuke dodges" okay sure but how long can he keep that up. Tsunade is a Senju. They are built for fighting Uchiha and we are talking about an Uchiha who hasn't even awakened MS yet. You are overhyping the Sharingan.

Sasuke uses snakes in cqc...and Tsunade uses slugs. She knows how the snakes work (she did grow up side by side with the guy who also uses snakes in cqc and taught Sauce how to use them) She also displayed how she handles those snakes back in part I when she fought Orochimaru.

Precog doesn't automatically mean the fight is won or no Uchiha would have ever lost to anybody. Clearly that is t the case. Again Tsunade fought MADARA another Uchiha (THE UCHIHA) with those self same Uchiha abilities you just laid out and more. she held her own. Again why do you think Tsunade would fair worse against a 3 Tomoe Sharingan user. Because it's Sasuke? Yes I get he is strong and popular and has a wonderful set of moves( HEBI Sauce is my favorite version of him by the way) but again, most of those abilities are not gonna slow Tsunade down much. You guys act like Tsunade has never dough a person with a sword before or any other ninja for that matter.
 
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Nice fanfic. No he can't...at all actually. By this logic that means Deidara can beat 5 of the 6 paths of Pain too :lmao:

I don't care how much you love your fav. SM Naruto stands no chance against Deidara. It's completely different fighting styles which Deidara haves the upper hand.
 

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is that your attempt at a joke?

because you saying hebi sasuke is stronger than ay could be considered one.

I didn't say Hebi Sasuke was stronger than Ay. Gets your facts right or develop a better reading comprehension.
 

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=Detonator99;20745967]Amaterasu takes advantage of the wind to be stronger din't you hear Yamato's explanation?
and in doing it completely eats up the frs turning it into pure flame which is beneficial to sasuke not naruto so its basically the same thing
Sasuke did great agains't deidara but it is a fact that his lightning afinities where to him a great help to them in the fight he used his inteligence and lightning afinities to go over that fight but is more then obvious that deidara had greater chakra them him along with his DC
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so deidara has better firepower, so? what is this supposed to prove? you want to talk about advantage.

fight ends here if obito hadent alerted him to sasukes presence

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he wasnt going for the kill because he needed info on itachi from him, evidenced as when he purposely didnt strike deidaras heart as he says athough that was a clay bunshin.
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but its for that reason deidara doesnt receive a chidori/chidori spear or a sword stab through his heart instead a punch here otherwise fight ends

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he also came into the fight with knowledge on the sharingan and counter to sharingan genjutsu whereas sasuke had no form of knowlege on him and had to formulate plans to find out. with those disadvantages, sasuke battle prowess turned the tide in his favour.
 
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Diedara is bad matchup for SM Naruto and his destructive capacity is much larger. Just using Naruto fap logic.

This version of Naruto now has cqc abilities that extend his range via Nature energy, he also has long range attacks (RasenShuriken) the can expand and explode as well. Shadow clones overwhelm. Deidara doesn't have a doujutsu to figure out which Naruto is the real one. A gang of frog summons. Naruto can literally sense the bombs since they have Deidara's chakra in the
....need I continue.

Deidara gets stomped by SM Naruto.
 

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This version of Naruto now has cqc abilities that extend his range via Nature energy, he also has long range attacks (RasenShuriken) the can expand and explode as well. Shadow clones overwhelm. Deidara doesn't have a doujutsu to figure out which Naruto is the real one. A gang of frog summons. Naruto can literally sense the bombs since they have Deidara's chakra in the
....need I continue.

Deidara gets stomped by SM Naruto.

I wasn't talking about adult Naruto. Sage mode Naruto from pein fight. Clones < bombs, Summons less than nano bombs.


If he can only sense Diedara chakra from bombs what exactly will he be figuring out?
 

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I didn't say Hebi Sasuke was stronger than Ay. Gets your facts right or develop a better reading comprehension.

i guess after reading so many manga facts you came to your senses.
 
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