[Discussion] Is Haschwalth bigger threat than Yhwach ?

[Shanks]

Haschwalth broke Ichigo's tensa Zangetsu blade by all means he is way more stronger than i really think.

He himself declared he is other side of coin when Yhwach is sleeping he is Substitute Monarch . He is certainly a fishy Character which makes me wonder he could be potential Final Villain and absorb Yhwach's Power.

Certainly he must have worked hard for 1000 years Scheming things when Yhwach was incapacitated i believe he is great actor and pretending to be loyal .

 

[TheBrownJonin1023]

Maybe he will betray Juha Bach, but im not sure if he is stronger.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Haschwalth broke Ichigo's tensa Zangetsu blade by all means he is way more stronger than i really think.

He himself declared he is other side of coin when Yhwach is sleeping he is Substitute Monarch . He is certainly a fishy Character which makes me wonder he could be potential Final Villain and absorb Yhwach's Power.

Certainly he must have worked hard for 1000 years Scheming things when Yhwach was incapacitated i believe he is great actor and pretending to be loyal .

Well Bach did state that no one but him self was strong enough to steal Yama bankai so i doubt jugram is stronger.

 

[Shanks]

Well Bach did state that no one but him self was strong enough to steal Yama bankai so i doubt jugram is stronger.

Well Haschwalth looks younger than Yhwach and i believe he was not in the picture during when Yhwach losing to Genryusai . When Yhwach got incapacitated for 1000 years Haschwaltz took in reign to revive Yhwach's Power for his own benefit .

 

[Lightbringer]

Well he was said to be next in line to become emperor. I heard Bleach is supposed to continue till next year, so I think there's plenty of time for Hashwald to replace Juha Bach.

It might happen soon after Juha Bach defeats the Soul King.

 

[Ultimateone]

Haschwalth broke Ichigo's tensa Zangetsu blade by all means he is way more stronger than i really think.

He himself declared he is other side of coin when Yhwach is sleeping he is Substitute Monarch . He is certainly a fishy Character which makes me wonder he could be potential Final Villain and absorb Yhwach's Power.

Certainly he must have worked hard for 1000 years Scheming things when Yhwach was incapacitated i believe he is great actor and pretending to be loyal .

hashwald may be powerful, but think about why he was able to break tensa zangetsu. a zanpakuto is only as strong as the soul wielding it. at that point in time, ichigo was being mind raped by the fact he was finding out he was quincy and blah blah. that in turn made his zanpakuto weaker so hashwald could break it. though he would still need to be very powerful to break it. we really don't know what either can really do, so we can't really say either way.

 

[Phoenix110]

Haschwald might be strong but he's not stronger than YH that is something we all should keep in mind

 

[Forbidden Tale]

What bothers me is that Hashwalth's powers are still keept in secret. But, his leader is fighting and he (who already showed his loyality to Yhwach) don't do anything as his right hand man.

Hashwalth sure can end as stronger than Yhwach. First, Yhwach to be strong, he needes to absorb souls, if he don't absorb them, he will become a weakling and Hashwalth in that case would be stronger than him.

Other way to become stronger than Yhwach, is simple to just be stronger than him. I suppose it's possible, Uryuu was already hinted to have potential to surpass Yhwach and Hashwalth is similar to Yhwach. While Yhwach sleep. Hashwalth is king.

There is also thing that Askin, said to Hashwatlh that he will be 'next emperor'. Maybe even Yhwach (unlike Askin) is not aware of how powerful Hashwalth is. Bazz-B said when Yhwach is no more, Hashwalth would take over the trone, but looking at his speaking, he don't say that because Hashwalth is strong enough, he say that only because there is no other option. That's pretty similar to how Kyoraku did become CC. Ukitake after Aizen's defeat said that there is no one strong enough in SS to raplace him, still Kyoraku 2 years later become CC. That's only because at that time there were no better choice and Gotei needs a leader in the war. But Askin stated that he will be next emperor even though his concurention is Uryuu (guy who can surpass Yhwach).. By Askin, Hashwalth can also surpass Yhwach, or is already stronger than him.

Only two characters in the series were able to break Tense Zangetsu, that's Yhwach and Hashwalth. Is it accidentally taht Kubo made this two characters break TZ?

 

[Shanks]

What bothers me is that Hashwalth's powers are still keept in secret. But, his leader is fighting and he (who already showed his loyality to Yhwach) don't do anything as his right hand man.

Hashwalth sure can end as stronger than Yhwach. First, Yhwach to be strong, he needes to absorb souls, if he don't absorb them, he will become a weakling and Hashwalth in that case would be stronger than him.

Other way to become stronger than Yhwach, is simple to just be stronger than him. I suppose it's possible, Uryuu was already hinted to have potential to surpass Yhwach and Hashwalth is similar to Yhwach. While Yhwach sleep. Hashwalth is king.

There is also thing that Askin, said to Hashwatlh that he will be 'next emperor'. Maybe even Yhwach (unlike Askin) is not aware of how powerful Hashwalth is. Bazz-B said when Yhwach is no more, Hashwalth would take over the trone, but looking at his speaking, he don't say that because Hashwalth is strong enough, he say that only because there is no other option. That's pretty similar to how Kyoraku did become CC. Ukitake after Aizen's defeat said that there is no one strong enough in SS to raplace him, still Kyoraku 2 years later become CC. That's only because at that time there were no better choice and Gotei needs a leader in the war. But Askin stated that he will be next emperor even though his concurention is Uryuu (guy who can surpass Yhwach).. By Askin, Hashwalth can also surpass Yhwach, or is already stronger than him.

Only two characters in the series were able to break Tense Zangetsu, that's Yhwach and Hashwalth. Is it accidentally taht Kubo made this two characters break TZ?

Haschwalth is new Aizen of Quincy seriously he is all calm when enemies are outnumbering them .XD

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Haschwalth is new Aizen of Quincy seriously he is all calm when enemies are outnumbering them .XD

Yes, Aizen level characters (or above), are strong enough to defeat strong characters even without using their primary powers (shikai, bankai, schrifts, Vollstandigs)...
--- Yamamoto without zanpkatuo is strong enough (even without kido) with just bare hands to beat WW (stronger than any espada).
--- Isshin without shikai is capable of giving Aizen defeat.
--- Urahara is able to nearly destroy Hogyoku Aizen, without using his shikai.
--- Hashwalth is strong enough (probably without his schrift) to cut TZ in two pieces. This feat is parallel (and even better) to Aizen's in SS. Aizen with just his zanpakuto and fingers defeated Bankai Ichigo, tho, he didn't cut in in half, which is '-' when we looking at the same feat Hashwalth did. And Hashwalth also done that to much stronger opponent that Aizen. Ichigo in FKT is much more stronger than Ichigo in SS arc, which is one more '+' for Hashwalth.