[Discussion] Is Goku vs Superman comparation ridiculous?

[Rekudakune]

I have no idea why all of you are still denying all the facts that Death Battle made.

Superman>Goku in every single aspect, from speed to strength to intelligence to durability, everything.....

Superman is wayyy more durable than Super 17, and Dragon Fist at best gave him a mortal wound.

Dragon Fist isn't infinite mass either.
Besides, regular Superman has been hit with the power of 15 supernovas to the face, that's way more than most people in DBZ can dish out and tank.

Besides, if you use actual logic and utilize the power level scaling of DB most people should actually be way stronger than they were portrayed to be.
Most of Supermans feats. that were used to calculate his powers are also ridiculous, it's mostly hyperbole anyway.

Anyway, I have no further intention of arguing why Superman>Goku because these arguments always end up the same.

again if your trying to revisit the screw attack battle i have no problem with that superman would destroy him but if your trying to scratch that and go your own way then screw attack is useless because the video was done before BOG GOKU
it doesnt matter if super 17 was durrable or not, the dragon fists went thru him like a piece of cake and they will go thru superman aswell.
frieza in his base mode with one finger created a supernova and trunks later stopped it with one hand

 

[Zealotic]

again if your trying to revisit the screw attack battle i have no problem with that superman would destroy him but if your trying to scratch that and go your own way then screw attack is useless because the video was done before BOG GOKU
it doesnt matter if super 17 was durrable or not, the dragon fists went thru him like a piece of cake and they will go thru superman aswell.
frieza in his base mode with one finger created a supernova and trunks later stopped it with one hand

The heat from the sun in DBZ has been shown to be alot stronger than Ki attacks

 

[Tera Path]

again if your trying to revisit the screw attack battle i have no problem with that superman would destroy him but if your trying to scratch that and go your own way then screw attack is useless because the video was done before BOG GOKU
it doesnt matter if super 17 was durrable or not, the dragon fists went thru him like a piece of cake and they will go thru superman aswell.
frieza in his base mode with one finger created a supernova and trunks later stopped it with one hand

Well, I came back, I knew I couldn't resist to state Superman is stronger than Goku again even if I just said I was done.
I appreciate you not saying anything ridiculous.
Anyways, if you use a different method than Screwattack's calculations, most people in DBZ would easily destroy universes, this guy's calculations in particular.

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It's a ton to read but just skip some stuff, shouldn't be hard.

Anyways, going by those calculations pretty much everyone in DB would smash Superman.
Going by Screwattacks calculations, everyone in DB gets smashed by Superman.

Welp, back to the main point.
If I remember correctly, some people were complaining about why GT's feats weren't put into consideration against Superman because that happened later.....
Screwattack said that if they did that they would have to also put Goku against the later version of Superman, which is Superman Prime, and we all know that no one in DB can even win against Superman Prime, him being pretty much at least nigh-omni everything and most likely omni everything.

And Frieza never created a supernova, it's the same thing that he used to destroy another near by planet, if it really was a supernova then the Earth would've been destroyed along with several other planets.

 

[iFlowMotion]

Screw Attack used. Comic and Manga facts. Even gave goku SSJ4 which is non canon. And he lost. Supes feats are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than goku.

Deny what you want but facts are facts.

 

[ultraChalk]

The superman invincible to anything except kryptonite myth is completely false. Wherever it was stated I'll respect, but he has been damaged many times before without Kryptonite... basically that quote has been proven false too many times to be considered a rule anymore

 

[Seventh Sama]

Didn't supes tank a punch from that one guy who stated that it was like 15 supernovas going off at the same time? If so, Then goku gets merked.

 

[ultraChalk]

But still the strongest Superman will beat the strongest Goku.

 

[kmrasengan]

I swear DBZ tards get more retarded as the years go by. Superman easily takes this. And let's not even bring uber versions of Supes into this, or else it's a rape.

 

[TobiWanShinobi]

so no ones gonna pull this guy up about "comparation" ???

 

[Cornson]

I see many people saying that Superman is stronger than Goku,or that he stand his ground against him!


I think that it is apsurd,Goku would destroy him with 1.2 % of his power.


What do you guys think?

the reason you think this is because you are thinking of the superman from either:

The hollywood Movies.
The Superman Cartoon.
The Justice League Cartoon.

and you would be abselutely right, Goku SSJ3 (late Buu saga) would totally annihilate that Suprman, but people that match Goku vs Superman usually take superman at the power level he have in the last superman comic book, which is far higher than that of Goku's.

 

[KingOfAnons]

Pre Crisis Superman GG

SSJ Goku GG.

Superman wrecks Goku. Goku can be fatigued.. Superman's power can't be stopped unless Goku has kryptonite.​

Goku can be fatigued yet he is nearly indestructible. He would seriously damage superman with or without kryptonite.

No one in DBZ has even destroyed a Solar system in 1 shot and Goku dies in the sun



If we are talking about Prime Supes Goku doesn't have a chance





Franklin > Phoenix > Prime Supes > Goku

Cell can easily destroy a solar system in one shot and SSJG God Goku would just absorb the suns energy. Watch BOG, Bills threw a Supernova at Goku that is way bigger than the sun and he absorbed it. Superman dosen't stand a chance against SSJ Goku, never mind SSJ2 Goku. Goku > all the fodders you said.

I have no idea why all of you are still denying all the facts that Death Battle made.

Superman>Goku in every single aspect, from speed to strength to intelligence to durability, everything.....

Superman is wayyy more durable than Super 17, and Dragon Fist at best gave him a mortal wound.

Dragon Fist isn't infinite mass either.
Besides, regular Superman has been hit with the power of 15 supernovas to the face, that's way more than most people in DBZ can dish out and tank.

Besides, if you use actual logic and utilize the power level scaling of DB most people should actually be way stronger than they were portrayed to be.
Most of Supermans feats. that were used to calculate his powers are also ridiculous, it's mostly hyperbole anyway.

Anyway, I have no further intention of arguing why Superman>Goku because these arguments always end up the same.

Death Battle people are idiots. They understand nothing.
Goku > Superman in every single aspect. From power, speed, intelligence, hand to hand combat, durability, etc
You're are kidding yourself if you think superman would even touch Super 17, never mind durability. The Dragon Fist would obliterate superman. He wouldn't survive Bills Supernova either. DBZ characters should be stronger than what they make out to be, you need to grasp the comprehension behind that and then you will say they are the strongest characters.

I swear DBZ tards get more retarded as the years go by. Superman easily takes this. And let's not even bring uber versions of Supes into this, or else it's a rape.

SSJ Goku > superman you mad? Read Wizard magazine if you don't believe me.

 

[Barbarossa]

SSJ Goku GG.



Goku can be fatigued yet he is nearly indestructible. He would seriously damage superman with or without kryptonite.





Cell can easily destroy a solar system in one shot and SSJG God Goku would just absorb the suns energy. Watch BOG, Bills threw a Supernova at Goku that is way bigger than the sun and he absorbed it. Superman dosen't stand a chance against SSJ Goku, never mind SSJ2 Goku. Goku > all the fodders you said.






Death Battle people are idiots. They understand nothing.
Goku > Superman in every single aspect. From power, speed, intelligence, hand to hand combat, durability, etc
You're are kidding yourself if you think superman would even touch Super 17, never mind durability. The Dragon Fist would obliterate superman. He wouldn't survive Bills Supernova either. DBZ characters should be stronger than what they make out to be, you need to grasp the comprehension behind that and then you will say they are the strongest characters.





SSJ Goku > superman you mad? Read Wizard magazine if you don't believe me.

Super Sayian God Goku rocks , and this guy just owned you all

 

[chopstickchakra]

Omg,just tell me one Superman's move that could damage Goku?

He could punch Goku through his face what are you talking about? How can someone with such good taste in Ninja Turtles not understand Goku is a watered down Superman.

 

[Zealotic]

SSJ Goku GG.

How?

Goku can be fatigued yet he is nearly indestructible. He would seriously damage superman with or without kryptonite.

Hes no where near indestructible by DC/Marvel standards.

Cell can easily destroy a solar system in one shot and SSJG God Goku would just absorb the suns energy. Watch BOG, Bills threw a Supernova at Goku that is way bigger than the sun and he absorbed it. Superman dosen't stand a chance against SSJ Goku, never mind SSJ2 Goku. Goku > all the fodders you said.

No he cant destroy a solar system in 1 shot and no one in DBZ has that feat yet. It wasn't on supernova level though all ki attacks have been shown to be significantly weaker than the heat of the sun.

Death Battle people are idiots. They understand nothing.
Goku > Superman in every single aspect. From power, speed, intelligence, hand to hand combat, durability, etc
You're are kidding yourself if you think superman would even touch Super 17, never mind durability. The Dragon Fist would obliterate superman. He wouldn't survive Bills Supernova either. DBZ characters should be stronger than what they make out to be, you need to grasp the comprehension behind that and then you will say they are the strongest characters.

Despite all this Supes Prime has way better feats the only aspect Goku is better at is martial arts

SSJ Goku > superman you mad? Read Wizard magazine if you don't believe me.

XD
Goku can only beat Post crisis superman

Super Sayian God Goku rocks , and this guy just owned you all

No..........................

 

[KingOfAnons]

How?




Hes no where near indestructible by DC/Marvel standards.





No he cant destroy a solar system in 1 shot and no one in DBZ has that feat yet. It wasn't on supernova level though all ki attacks have been shown to be significantly weaker than the heat of the sun.





Despite all this Supes Prime has way better feats the only aspect Goku is better at is martial arts





XD
Goku can only beat Post crisis superman


No..........................

How? Simple, all it would take his one punch then superman will be dropping dead. Yes he is nearly indestructible by Marvel/DC standards. Saiyan's like Goku can withstand the highest levels of gravity and their bones don't even shatter. Even when they are on the brink of death they come back even stronger due to a Zenkai. Yes he can destroy a solar system in one shot. He has the power to do so. Yes it was a Supernova and it was scaled to be a galaxy busting attack. Wrong, Goku is better in all aspects and he would dismantle superman in a fight. Wrong, Goku can beat any version of him and he can't even beat SSJ1.

 

[Zealotic]

How? Simple, all it would take his one punch then superman will be dropping dead. Yes he is nearly indestructible by Marvel/DC standards. Saiyan's like Goku can withstand the highest levels of gravity and their bones don't even shatter. Even when they are on the brink of death they come back even stronger due to a Zenkai. Yes he can destroy a solar system in one shot. He has the power to do so. Yes it was a Supernova and it was scaled to be a galaxy busting attack. Wrong, Goku is better in all aspects and he would dismantle superman in a fight. Wrong, Goku can beat any version of him and he can't even beat SSJ1.

Supes Prime sneeze destroyed a solar system GG

 

[KingOfAnons]

Supes Prime sneeze destroyed a solar system GG

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GG.

 

[Zealotic]

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GG.

Thats from a Flash Back and it only happened in the anime. And besides the solar system dissipated it wasn't destroyed in 1 shot
[video=youtube;q1yLDearRxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1yLDearRxA[/video]
Only 1 at a time

GG

 

[KingOfAnons]

Thats from a Flash Back and it only happened in the anime. And besides the solar system dissipated it wasn't destroyed in 1 shot
[video=youtube;q1yLDearRxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1yLDearRxA[/video]
Only 1 at a time

GG

Dosen't matter, it can still be used as proof. You should know DBZ characters aren't displaying the power they should be doing. GG.

 

[Rekudakune]

Supes Prime sneeze destroyed a solar system GG

sneezing solar system isnt going to give him any upper hand in a fight, unless we wait till he wants to sneeze again goku can always teleport or use ki shield that can withstand any attack regardles of its power infact superman lacks any long range attacks,besides heat vision like kamehameha, gallic gun and final flash in order to fight on par with goku, his arsenal is pathetic compared to even Friezas whos at first form released a supernova 10E+44 joules. And remember, this is Frieza’s first form with a finger relaxing. goku in reality can become as strong as he wants to be depending on the situation, if he needs to destroy a planet he can estroy a planet, if he needs to destroy a universe he can destroy a universe, on top of that he has no limits that limit him all of that because of his past feats. and what we learned from power levels and how much it takes to be a planet buster.