Is God really the good guy in the bible?

[JStar King]

God is a loving God despite my sins. All you have to do is repent and accept him into your heart. I'm not the perfect Christian, but I try. I do have to admit I fear God.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Yet one of them resides in hell and the other joined by the pretense of angels and saints. Yep you must be so right. A little FYI, Satan didnt like humans and was jealous for they were created in the image of God, while he was deformed little prick waking on horse legs lol

He is right satan hates all humans.

 

[Forest]

I'm no expert on theology, but from what i've seen transpire in the name of God here on earth, I can say that the old testament, Quran
have created some of the most violent conflict ever. So for me God and Satan both suck.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Agree. God is a dumb character. Dislike.

Yet the person who made Homestruck is a Christian

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

I used to think that Satan actually tricked everyone and twisted his words each time to cause a divide between humanity and the God people think they worship is actually the Devil.

Like seriously Moses..., River of blood, Locusts, Lice, Boils, Diseased livestock, Boils, Frogs, Darkness, Storms of Fire, and the Death of the first born. and then he got over at least 600,000 jews lost in a desert for 40 years til moses finally kicked the bucket. Then they just settled in what is now known as Israel...

Then Christianity and we all know how great that turned out... *cough cough* Crusades

Then Islam which made it untouchable and those who try to leave islam were executed way back in the day, and still today in some countries.

Satan really ****ed everyone over... is what i used to think

But now I'm just a deist.

 

[Srom777]

God is the good guy. He died for all of mankind's sins. If God was truly for Himself, He wouldn't have done it at all but He was considerate of others that's why He came to earth to pay the price for all of us.

 

[Cruciatus]

I'm no expert on theology, but from what i've seen transpire in the name of God here on earth, I can say that the old testament, Quran
have created some of the most violent conflict ever. So for me God and Satan both suck.

What about in the New Testament where God sacrificed a part of himself, was beaten mercilessly and made to carry his own cross to his crucifixion, spent hours bleeding to death on that cross because his legs weren't broken during his crucifixion (which would have allowed him to die more quickly), died and then suffered in Hell for three days, all for your, and the sum total of humanity's, sins?

What about in the New Testament where God came to the earth as a human to bring messages of grace and mercy? Where he taught us that he goes out of his way for the lost sheep, because every one of his creations is so valuable to him? Is he still the bad guy?

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

God is the good guy. He died for all of mankind's sins. If God was truly for Himself, He wouldn't have done it at all but He was considerate of others that's why He came to earth to pay the price for all of us.

you mean jesus......

 

[Cruciatus]

you mean jesus......

Jesus is a part of God.

 

[Anorien16]

Yet one of them resides in hell and the other joined by the pretense of angels and saints. Yep you must be so right. A little FYI, Satan didnt like humans and was jealous for they were created in the image of God, while he was deformed little prick waking on horse legs lol

As far as my Bible knowledge goes, Lucifer is supposed to be the brightest angel until he fell, so it wasnt actually jealousy based on looks .... Also that Goat leg image is actually a Anti-pegan propaganda .... Many features such as the legs (from Pan), trident (Neptune), horned head (Horus I think ... forgot his name, the Egyptian god of fertility) etc is just to show that the Pegan gods are actually the devil.

Also funnily enough from Old testament Jeovah DOES seem a bit attention seeking control freak. Not to mention very grudging (Too many), child negligent (Pre enlightened Adam and Eve wasnt exactly lit bulbs ..... who lets them roam around unattended?) and lacks a bit of sense (If Adam and Eve lacked the sense to tell the difference between wrong and right who the heck would they know disobeying him isnt a good thing) etc.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

What about in the New Testament where God sacrificed a part of himself, was beaten mercilessly and made to carry his own cross to his crucifixion, spent hours bleeding to death on that cross because his legs weren't broken during his crucifixion (which would have allowed him to die more quickly), died and then suffered in Hell for three days, all for your, and the sum total of humanity's, sins?

What about in the New Testament where God came to the earth as a human to bring messages of grace and mercy? Where he taught us that he goes out of his way for the lost sheep, because every one of his creations is so valuable to him? Is he still the bad guy?

I thought that was the Human boy, born to a virgin mother; Jesus.

I didn't know...

Jesus=God?

Son=Father?

God=Human?

Didn't it go something like for God so loved the world he gave his one and only son...etc.. Etc... Etc.?

 

[Sir Blades]

I thought that was the Human boy, born to a virgin mother; Jesus.

I didn't know...

Jesus=God?

Son=Father?

God=Human?

Didn't it go something like for God so loved the world he gave his one and only son...etc.. Etc... Etc.?

You probably haven't heard of the Holy Trinity. Meaning
God
Jesus
Holy Spirit
Are one being, all three of them exist together as God, God=God, Jesus=God,Holy Spirit=God.

 

[Lightbringer]

God is omnipotent, the creator, and everything. He is the source of both good and evil, but God cannot be defined. He is beyond mortal knowledge and words.

Humans have never witnessed true infinity nor are capable of comprehending it. No matter how we try to rationalize God, we will never be able correctly understand what God really is because he is beyond everything we know.

 

[Sharingan King]

I agree with you. In the bible it is god who orders people to kill their enemies and then tell them killing is wrong; such a contradiction. Many so called christians only know about the parts that their pastor tells them about in church. According to the bible, doing anything againsts god's will is a sin. Therefore, god restricts free will. He punishes those who go against him. He is a dictator.

Satan challenges such a dictator and encourages free will. Remember, Satan challenged Eve to eat the fruit after God told them not to. God warned them of punishment to restrict their free will. Remember, it was said that they gained knowledge and "their eyes were opened." Therefore, Satan helped us acquire free will and thinking. Also, god was the one who set the whole thing up. He must have known what would have happened.

If god is so good and satan is so evil then why did god create satan? If god is all knowing he must have known what satan would do. Another thing; if jesus died for everyone's sin then why do people go to hell?

The bible is full of fairy-tails that no one should take seriously. How can people tell there kids that spiderman, santa claus and the tooth fairy isn't real but believe in talking snakes and donkeys?

 

[Filo]

You have clearly never read the New Testament.

Yea this solo'd the thread

 

[KillerbYo]

This question is so retarded.

 

[Takure]

God is omnipotent, the creator, and everything. He is the source of both good and evil, but God cannot be defined. He is beyond mortal knowledge and words.

Humans have never witnessed true infinity nor are capable of comprehending it. No matter how we try to rationalize God, we will never be able correctly understand what God really is because he is beyond everything we know.

God isn't omnipotent. Omnipotence doesn't exist simply because of the paradox: "If a being can perform any action, then it should be able to create a task which this being is unable to perform; hence, this being cannot perform all actions. Yet, on the other hand, if this being cannot create a task that it is unable to perform, then there exists something it cannot do."

I believe that "God" is the universe. It's the only thing that's everywhere, that's everything, that's truly infinite.

 

[Lightbringer]

God isn't omnipotent. Omnipotence doesn't exist simply because of the paradox: "If a being can perform any action, then it should be able to create a task which this being is unable to perform; hence, this being cannot perform all actions. Yet, on the other hand, if this being cannot create a task that it is unable to perform, then there exists something it cannot do."

That is a common argument, but there is a solution to the paradox. There are infinite realities and in one reality God would create an object wear he cannot lift and in the other reality God would be able to lift the object. Therefore, both happen at the same time.

But even if true omnipotence wouldn't exist, there would be no greater power, establishing him as the sovereign over everything.

 

[Takure]

That is a common argument, but there is a solution to the paradox. There are infinite realities and in one reality God would create an object wear he cannot lift and in the other reality God would be able to lift the object. Therefore, both happen at the same time.

But even if true omnipotence wouldn't exist, there would be no greater power, establishing him as the sovereign over everything.

That's a loophole, and it's doesn't refute the original paradox. If there's infinite realities, in all of them you're God. Because infinity means, that everything ever possible, everything that will ever be possible, everything thing that's ever happened, or will ever happen, has happened an infinite times, and will continue to happen forever.

Are you God? Obviously not.

 

[Lightbringer]

That's a loophole, and it's doesn't refute the original paradox. If there's infinite realities, in all of them you're God. Because infinity means, that everything ever possible, everything that will ever be possible, everything thing that's ever happened, or will ever happen, has happened an infinite times, and will continue to happen forever.

Are you God? Obviously not.

If God is the source of all creation, then everything in existence is also a part of him. So yes, in essence we are God because we are a piece of him.

Actually in my own personal belief, I believe that when one dies they become one again with "God" gaining his powers and knowledge while retaining our own individual self and the selves of all past lives.