Is Gaara Jounin Level?

[Escorpiius]

Would say undermining him, but whatever the case its the truth i speak.
If you were to take him out of the sand and place him in cloud he wouldnt be the leader. He would be kage level, but his rank would be jonin.

Your reasonment is baseless. There can only be one Kage and obviously, everyone else will get a lower rank in that case. Even if the shinobis are all OP, only one will be leader.

Now, even if I take your suggestion and consider Gaara as a full-on Cloud member, then he still can be Kage in case A is dead.

Gaara is 10 times better than Darui.
Gaara is strongest than the normal nins there.
Bee may be strongest but he is unfit for that job.

 

[Nova89]

everyone knows gaara is way stronger then most. also very smart and cool headed. he could compete with any other kage.

 

[lswhyte123]

Gaara and his siblings are the only strong living suna ninja that we know well. Suna is the weakest village for sure but Gaara is still kage level, he beat his dad and helped beat the 2nd mizukage and Muu ( half) and now helping fight madara, although he couldn't beat mizukage or Muu solo and of course not madara. But he stopped A and,sasukes attacks easily

I think that beating the opponents he did 2nd Mizukage & his father(while holding onto 3rd Raikage & 2nd Mizukage) was more of a feat than stated. It wasn't just him beating them in a straight forward fight. He had to stop & seal them as they were Edo's, if he could have just killed them, it may have been much easier. Thanks btw

Blaze Brah U serious??? its garra of course hes kage level his feats during the war prove this. Sure if he was from another village he wouldn't be kage. But i sure as hell rather him them than temari or kankuro. heck i would prefer chiyo's corpse rather than those two. But im sure blaze wouldn't make such a statement. Did u twist his words??
look into my sharingan

No. The words were open to interpretation sadly. But the point remains, BlazeR feels that Gaara is only Kage because he is the best in Suna as Suna doesn't have any other decent Shinobi for the position.
This is untrue IMO as Gaara is more than suited to being Kage in at least Konoha and Cloud.
A: Very strong & Fast, but not as smart as Gaara(also his Guillotine Drop was stopped by Gaara's sand, so maybe Gaara's as strong...who knows?)
Tsunade: Think Gaara is better than her in almost every way.

Already 2 other villages that I'd choose Gaara for Kage. Put him whereever and he could still make Kage.

Pick two people from each village that are stronger and smarter than him that you feel would be chosen over him. Naruto is already a given so don't choose him please.

Naruto is very strong but not gonna become Hokage, he doesn't have the correct frame of mind to handle that line of work. Still too immature.
Thank you btw, my point exactly.

I'm not sure I know of any village that has a jounin that is on Gaara's level(unless Bee is classified as a jounin). Gaara is most definitely on the kage level and I personally have him ranked as the 3rd strongest of the kages behind A and Onoki. And he's far ahead of the other 2 simply based on feats.

Thank you. Also, Gaara has done a lot of saving Oonoki's butt lately so I would rate him higher than Oonoki. Thanks though

Your reasonment is baseless. There can only be one Kage and obviously, everyone else will get a lower rank in that case. Even if the shinobis are all OP, only one will be leader.

Now, even if I take your suggestion and consider Gaara as a full-on Cloud member, then he still can be Kage in case A is dead.

Gaara is 10 times better than Darui.
Gaara is strongest than the normal nins there.
Bee may be strongest but he is unfit for that job.

Thank you again.

My point exactly, in the cloud (if Gaara were a cloud ninja) he would be directly behind or equal to the position of A.
A is not as smart or level headed as Gaara.

I'm feeling that my point is coming accross. Thanks everyone.

 

[Blaze Release]

Pick two people from each village that are stronger and smarter than him that you feel would be chosen over him. Naruto is already a given so don't choose him please.

Kakashi & Gai
Darui and Bee

I already said he could possibly become the leader of the mist and rock village

Hey man, I was just replying to what the OP claimed. I didn't even say anything totally out of line. If you have any beef take it up with him

Fortunately internet 'beef' has never been my forte. Its best to read the whole thread first, before you decide to say such things even it i wouldnt classify it as an insult

Your reasonment is baseless. There can only be one Kage and obviously, everyone else will get a lower rank in that case. Even if the shinobis are all OP, only one will be leader.

Now, even if I take your suggestion and consider Gaara as a full-on Cloud member, then he still can be Kage in case A is dead.

Gaara is 10 times better than Darui.
Gaara is strongest than the normal nins there.
Bee may be strongest but he is unfit for that job.

But you see, my argument does have a base. Its you going off topic.
Ive never said gaara wasnt kage level.

If lets assume gaara was a cloud jonin and A dies. He would be a candidate for the position, but id give it to Darui. Also you say Gaara is 10 times stronger than Darui?. Darui is on the same level as kakashi and both will give gaara a fight. Tbh i dont know what the outcome would be if Darui was to fight gaara.

Right now, gaara is the weakest kage out of the 5, believe it or not

 

[lswhyte123]

Right now, gaara is the weakest kage out of the 5, believe it or not[/QUOTE]

Of course you have proof. You wouldn't just talk s**t without being able to back it up surely...? xdxd

 

[Blaze Release]

Of course you have proof. You wouldn't just talk s**t without being able to back it up surely...? xdxd

Onoki and A are stronger than him.
Ive reason to believe mei and tsuande are also stronger

 

[lswhyte123]

Onoki and A are stronger than him.
Ive reason to believe mei and tsuande are also stronger

Oonoki so far is only alive thanks to Gaara.
You have no reason to think that Mei nor Tsunade could be stronger than him, unless I'm missing something.
A might be stronger but sure as hell isn't smarter than Gaara. You seem to base everything on simple strength. Narutoverse doesn't work that way.

Gaara has done more as Kazekage for the greater good than all 4 other Kage's combined.

 

[Blaze Release]

Oonoki so far is only alive thanks to Gaara.
You have no reason to think that Mei nor Tsunade could be stronger than him, unless I'm missing something.
A might be stronger but sure as hell isn't smarter than Gaara. You seem to base everything on simple strength. Narutoverse doesn't work that way.

Gaara has done more as Kazekage for the greater good than all 4 other Kage's combined.

Im actually the oppoiste. I usually go for intelligence over strength. But you see experience also goes in the same bracket as intelligence and thats what the other kages have over him.

So say Oonoki is alive thanks to gaara?. That meteor wouldve crashed everyone.
If anybody owes their life to somebody, its gaara

 

[lswhyte123]

Im actually the oppoiste. I usually go for intelligence over strength. But you see experience also goes in the same bracket as intelligence and thats what the other kages have over him.

So say Oonoki is alive thanks to gaara?. That meteor wouldve crashed everyone.
If anybody owes their life to somebody, its gaara

You don't think Gaara could have maybe flown away from it?

Gaara also chose to stop the meteor with Oonoki, so they both get credit for it.

I'm done debating with you. I and everyone else(roughly) know you are being daft and just can't admit that ur being an ar*e about this.

Gaara is not the weakest Kage.
Gaara would not simply be a Jounin in another village. You used Kakashi & Bee as people more likely than Gaara to become Kage's. Well guess what, neither of those two match up to Gaara all round.
You say Gaara owes Oonoki his life,when Gaara also helped stop the meteor instead of just flying off.
You seem to ignore that Gaara grabbed Oonoki to safety from the 2nd Mizukage and continued to act like Oonoki as a sand clone to form a distraction.

You think of every possible bs way to under mine Gaara yet have no actual reasoning nor evidence to back what you say.

This is by far the worst debate i've ever seen you in.

 

[Blaze Release]

You don't think Gaara could have maybe flown away from it?

Gaara also chose to stop the meteor with Oonoki, so they both get credit for it.

I'm done debating with you. I and everyone else(roughly) know you are being daft and just can't admit that ur being an ar*e about this.

Gaara is not the weakest Kage.
Gaara would not simply be a Jounin in another village. You used Kakashi & Bee as people more likely than Gaara to become Kage's. Well guess what, neither of those two match up to Gaara all round.
You say Gaara owes Oonoki his life,when Gaara also helped stop the meteor instead of just flying off.
You seem to ignore that Gaara grabbed Oonoki to safety from the 2nd Mizukage and continued to act like Oonoki as a sand clone to form a distraction.

You think of every possible bs way to under mine Gaara yet have no actual reasoning nor evidence to back what you say.

This is by far the worst debate i've ever seen you in.

Aim all along was to bring gaara fans back down to earth U_U
You are right though, this is the worst debate ive been in because ive used mostly assumptions. Maybe if we see impressive feats from tsuande and mei i might re visit this thread.

Id give you the win here

 

[Escorpiius]

But you see, my argument does have a base. Its you going off topic.
Ive never said gaara wasnt kage level.

If lets assume gaara was a cloud jonin and A dies. He would be a candidate for the position, but id give it to Darui. Also you say Gaara is 10 times stronger than Darui?. Darui is on the same level as kakashi and both will give gaara a fight. Tbh i dont know what the outcome would be if Darui was to fight gaara.

Right now, gaara is the weakest kage out of the 5, believe it or not

Nope, Gaara is a better candidate.

His strength and leadership ability are already very good and given his young age, both factors will go on an exponential increase.

Till now, we saw Darui fight as a sidekick for A and fight the Kin-Gin bros.
Both were powerful but still, he had to take the help from Ino-Shika-Cho to win it.

As for Gaara, he proved his mettle more than once and mostly in this war. In case, you're not following well - Gaara defeated 3 Kages in this war and is still fighting Madara while the only thing Darui has done is to defeat two wannabes Jinchuurikis.

So, most frankly, Gaara surpassed both Kakashi and Darui since long. For me, he is stronger than Tsunade and have some chances against Mei or Onoki (though the outcome of both fights is uncertain). Only A clearly surpasses the other. Onoki was surely a clear second in his prime but now, both Mei and Gaara are around the same level. Still, all 5 surpass the likes of Kakashi or Darui easily.

 

[NarutoBestFanboy]

Gaara is strong. He is kage level. The only reason he lost to Diedara was to protect his village. Gaara finished that guy without Naruto's clone help. Gaaras sand blocked the Raikages dive kick.

Gaara outsmarted smokey boy. I dislike when people want to over rate him.

 

[lswhyte123]

Aim all along was to bring gaara fans back down to earth U_U
You are right though, this is the worst debate ive been in because ive used mostly assumptions. Maybe if we see impressive feats from tsuande and mei i might re visit this thread.

Id give you the win here

Don't get me wrong. Normally I have a lot of respect for what you say but this was frankly verging on bashing.

I also understand trying to bring people back down to earth but don't go too far the other way. Otherwise you end up backed into a corner with no decent basis for argument and look foolish.

My opinion: So far Gaara has done incredibly well and even surpassed his Biju. He has also been hugely influencial in the Gokage summit and managed to make A & Oonoki see reason. All he has done was his own doing and even though he had some help in his fights, they are still his victories.
He's been not only given the title of Kage but of Commander of the Joint Shinobi army, which should get him the recognition he deserves and show that he isn't just a Kage, let alone the weakest.

 

[Melizzle]

Aim all along was to bring gaara fans back down to earth U_U
You are right though, this is the worst debate ive been in because ive used mostly assumptions. Maybe if we see impressive feats from tsuande and mei i might re visit this thread.

Id give you the win here

I love how you're such a gentleman about losing. Prince charming!!! <3