Is Dual Rinnegan Madara unbeatable?

[LuckyMan]

Let's say Madara got his second Rinnegan but never absorbed Gedo and never became jubi-jin but Naruto and Sasuke and everyone else also never got Ridoku chakra. In no order, who does he beat and who does he lose to.

Intel: Full for both sides.
Conditions: Madara has no Kyuubi, but dual Rinnegan, access to all its moves plus his own (Limbo).

1. Hashirama
2. BSM Naruto + EMS Sasuke
3. BM Minato + Nagato (can walk)
4. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Jins

5. All of the above at once.

Notes: No one is Edo, not even Obitos Jins but he still controls them.

 

[-immortal-]

Wins all.




The only one capable of seeing the 4 limbos is obioo since he has acces to the rinnegan .


He can see but not counter since he has no rikoudo chakre .


So madara casually wins all
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Loses against all together

 

[LuckyMan]

wait so is Maddy a jin or not, considering he was soloing everyone with one eye and no jin, I think he would beat all of them since they wouldn't be able to react to limbo

Read the OP, no he is not a jin.

 

[Great Master Minato]

They have no counter for Limbo...

 

[Omar19992010]

1. Hashirama

Limbo Negs

2. BSM Naruto + EMS Sasuke

Madara stomps

3. BM Minato + Nagato (can walk)

Madara Stomps

4. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Jins

Madara Stomps

5. All of the above at once.

Everybody gets Limbo Clones

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Limbo negs

 

[Holy God]

Even without Limbo, he wins against all the characters. Together though, he'd probably need it.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Madara wins all

 

[Kagustuchi]

What do you mean never absorbed Gedo but became a JJ? Not possible.

Although if you meant he never absorbed Shinju then that makes sense. Basically as a JJ without Shinju he's a couple tiers above Juubito with Rinnegan techs, 5 Limbo, and PS. Perfect Susano'O is whats the game changer though, and at that point a Juubi's Chakra enhanced PS just slays through any type of resistance they put up.

Edit: Geez I thought it was all together from the get go. Individually you can keep the Shinju restricted and take his other eye away and he would still win them all.

 

[LuckyMan]

What do you mean never absorbed Gedo but became a JJ? Not possible.

Although if you meant he never absorbed Shinju then that makes sense. Basically as a JJ without Shinju he's a couple tiers above Juubito with Rinnegan techs, 5 Limbo, and PS. Perfect Susano'O is whats the game changer though, and at that point a Juubi's Chakra enhanced PS just slays through any type of resistance they put up.

Sigh..... Okay it seems you didn't understand the OP.

Madara didn't absorb the Gedo or Shinju

He is I'm the same state he was after he took Hashiramas chakra except he has both Rinnegan.

Is he a jubi jin. No.

Does that help?

 

[Kagustuchi]

Sigh..... Okay it seems you didn't understand the OP.

Madara didn't absorb the Gedo or Shinju

He is I'm the same state he was after he took Hashiramas chakra except he has both Rinnegan.

Is he a jubi jin. No.

Does that help?

Excuse me

Let's say Madara got his second Rinnegan but never absorbed Gedo and became jubi-jin but Naruto and Sasuke and everyone else also never got Ridoku chakra. In no order, who does he beat and who does he lose to.

Intel: Full for both sides.
Conditions: Madara has no Kyuubi, but dual Rinnegan, access to all its moves plus his own (Limbo).

1. Hashirama
2. BSM Naruto + EMS Sasuke
3. BM Minato + Nagato (can walk)
4. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Jins

5. All of the above at once.

Notes: No one is Edo, not even Obitos Jins but he still controls them.

 

[LuckyMan]

Excuse me

Okay thats my fault for bad wording. I should have used "or" instead of "and". It'll be fixed.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Okay thats my fault for bad wording. I should have used "or" instead of "and". It'll be fixed.

Ok. This is my opinion on the gauntlet now. Im gonna go ahead and assume he has SM though, otherwise we really don't have a way to gauge him.

- He takes scenario 1 pretty easily. Hashirama gets boned by the powered up Madara pretty quick if he doesn't use Shinsuusenju. His Susano'O was stronger as a mortal without any eyes than his Edo form with boths eyes. Meaning his PS would definitely be a margin stronger with boths eyes than that of his Edo forms. Anything under Shinsuusenju gets overpowered or knocked back by Limbo.

Even if Shinsuusenju comes out, Hashirama gets clipped by Limbo and Madara follows up for a kill.

- Loses Scenario 2. BM/BSM Naruto vs non-jin variants of Madara topics bore me (been discussing it for the better part of 5 or so years) but i'll say he definitely can't take on Naruto and Sasuke's Avatar fusion. Especially since Naruto has the chakra to throw out big techs here.

- More than likely wins Scenario 3. Naruto's SM sensory plays a big role in the RT Madara matchup for trying to counter his techs, but Minato doesn't have that here. I really see Minato getting taken down by the Limbo - Gedo Biju extraction combo, and Nagato really can't do much to stop it. This Madara can also do everything a Prime Edo Nagato can do but better and its only 1/3 of his arsenal, so he's not pressing Madara without Minato's help and the latter can't stay alive in this matchup.

- Wins Scenario 4 no doubt. Cannon repeats itself and the Biju gets sealed into Gedo Mazo after Limbo strikes them. Obito gets wrecked by himself after that.


- Gets steamrolled in Scenario 5

 

[ARGUS]

1. Hashirama

Hashirama gets wrecked,
Limbos smack him down, and rikudo PS (or SS if he could use it) decimate him,

2. BSM Naruto + EMS Sasuke

Madara should win,
avatar still gets knocked down by limbo, whilst rikudo PS manhandles this fusion, added with rikudo powered rinnegan techs, as eventually sasuke either loses his PS, or gets outlastted,
once PS is out, naruto recieves a Limbo + GM treatment and gets finished like how he did in canon,
afterwards, sasuke receives the same canon treatment that he did

3. BM Minato + Nagato (can walk)

madara wins mid difff at the very most
Minato cant anticipate limbo, and nagato sure as hell cant help him much, meaing that minato loses his kyuubi and gets finished with ease, whilst madara can do everyything nagato can, added with more rinnegan powers, susanoo and mokuton so he gets wrecked

4. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Jins

Madara comfortably wins,
limbo is the worst match up for kammui, whilst the bijuu are getting taken out just how they did in canon

5. All of the above at once.

madara may not be winning this,

Notes: No one is Edo, not even Obitos Jins but he still controls them.[/QUOTE]

 

[WorldTamerUchihaMadara]

Madara wins

 

[V h o]

Madara wrecks with or without hashiboob. Limbo basically sweeps the gauntlet

Edit: 5 he probably still wins since 1 limbo could blitz BM Naruto, bee, and the other bijuu

 

[KidGamer65]

Well, given the tremendous boost JJ Madara got when he received his other eye, no one in this gauntlet would stand a chance. By feats the only ones he might lose to are Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Madara takes all.

And Madara already negs BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke in canon.

He can used Gedo to absorb Kurama from Naruto and used limbo to attack and kill Sasuke.

 

[DMT]

Madara neg-diff

 

[Selan]

Gai solos with the 8th Gate, he murderstomps him actually. Or Obito distracts him and Kakashi warps his ass with Kamui.