[Discussion] Is Dragon really that strong? Yonkos are stronger IMO.

[Red Swag]

I think dragon is weaker than the yonkos.

here's why... his commanders are weak. ivankov for example... why is he so afraid of wb if hes allied with dragon... the worlds wanted man... if dragon is that strong... wouldnt ivankov be accustomed to that kind of strength? why is he/she afraid of top tiers? an admiral would negative diff him.

now for kuma... he went toe to toe with ivankov almost equally during the war. meaning hes around his level right... even tho hes now a robot? another commander of dragon. we always see those two near dragon... so are those his strongest commanders? what? we see these fodder dudes around Dragon... are those his so called revolutionary army?

What about the yonko? Shanks... his commanders are admiral level... benn beckman for example.

Kaido...dofla is so afraid of him. etc etc

Just got me thinkin'

Anyway whats your take on this?

 

[Hexuze]

Well look at BB, the gap between him and his crewmates are huge but that doesn't make BB himself weak. Also you have to consider we haven't seen the whole Revolutionary army/commanders/officers... there's still time. IMO Dragon/Shanks are the strongest.

Edit: FYI the kuma at MF was a mindless zombie. Kuma solo'd the whole crew at Sabaody with little to no effort.

 

[Red Swag]

Well look at BB, the gap between him and his crewmates are huge but that doesn't make BB himself weak. Also you have to consider we haven't seen the whole Revolutionary army/commanders/officers... there's still time. IMO Dragon/Shanks are the strongest.

Edit: FYI the kuma at MF was a mindless zombie. Kuma solo'd the whole crew at Sabaody with little to no effort.

well you have a point... but i dont think it's that huge of a gap... magellan defeated his whole crew including bb (surprised or not... doesnt matter... part of fighting). and magellan = shiryu of the rain. now of course bb has wb's fruit.. but burgess got stronger as well. let alone shiryu... he probably is an admiral lvl now

 

[Lord Naruto San]

I think he is Equal to a Yonkou or slightly stronger because we are closing in as the Super Novas are talking about taking them down so. But his Resources ARE WAYY Better than a Yonkou he is waging A WAR against them something i see much people cant do

 

[Hexuze]

well you have a point... but i dont think it's that huge of a gap... magellan defeated his whole crew including bb (surprised or not... doesnt matter... part of fighting). and magellan = shiryu of the rain. now of course bb has wb's fruit.. but burgess got stronger as well. let alone shiryu... he probably is an admiral lvl now

Yeah but burgess isn't THAT strong; Sabo effortlessly broke his armor which was fused with haki. Magallen is stronger than Shilliew, they aren't equals.

 

[Lord Naruto San]

I think dragon is weaker than the yonkos.

here's why... his commanders are weak. ivankov for example... why is he so afraid of wb if hes allied with dragon... the worlds wanted man... if dragon is that strong... wouldnt ivankov be accustomed to that kind of strength? why is he/she afraid of top tiers? an admiral would negative diff him.

now for kuma... he went toe to toe with ivankov almost equally during the war. meaning hes around his level right... even tho hes now a robot? another commander of dragon. we always see those two near dragon... so are those his strongest commanders? what? we see these fodder dudes around Dragon... are those his so called revolutionary army?

What about the yonko? Shanks... his commanders are admiral level... benn beckman for example.

Kaido...dofla is so afraid of him. etc etc

Just got me thinkin'

Anyway whats your take on this?

yeah Doffy is afraid of Kaidou. But see how the Gov reacted to when they found out Luffy Heritage

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Yeah but burgess isn't THAT strong; Sabo effortlessly broke his armor which was fused with haki. Magallen is stronger than Shilliew, they aren't equals.

Magellen power comes from his Fruit. If poison dont work against you he is easy to defeat. Hence Luffy beating that Poison dude forgot his name but Doffy wants em

 

[Red Swag]

Yeah but burgess isn't THAT strong; Sabo effortlessly broke his armor which was fused with haki. Magallen is stronger than Shilliew, they aren't equals.

burgess is strong i think... garp punched him and it was like nothing happnd. he did the same with marco and we know what happnd. bandage to the head during the funeral and hes supposdly heal.

i think the armor isnt his... like luffy. just used some armor from the locker room. and the armor doesnt matter anyway. sabo can break any armor he wants.

 

[Red Swag]

yeah Doffy is afraid of Kaidou. But see how the Gov reacted to when they found out Luffy Heritage

if kaido is luffy's father they wouldve reacted the same.

 

[Hexuze]

burgess is strong i think... garp punched him and it was like nothing happnd. he did the same with marco and we know what happnd. bandage to the head during the funeral and hes supposdly heal.

i think the armor isnt his... like luffy. just used some armor from the locker room. and the armor doesnt matter anyway. sabo can break any armor he wants.

Those bandages were from Kizaru/Akainu not Garp. Look at your sig., it does matter Sabo shattered his armor that was infused with haki. We can easily say, "Sabo's haki > Burgess's haki"; even Burgess was tripping out.

 

[WhistleBlower]

What i think, is your wrong. Monkey D Dragon IS really that strong. U_U

 

[Red Swag]

Those bandages were from Kizaru/Akainu not Garp. Look at your sig., it does matter Sabo shattered his armor that was infused with haki. We can easily say, "Sabo's haki > Burgess's haki"; even Burgess was tripping out.

did kizaru even touch him in the head? so are you saying those two are stronger than garp? no plss. i beg you dont. this is garp were talkin about. the strongest marine in the world craig.

what i meant is... does it even matter if sabo broke the armor that burgess is wearing... even if that armor is just a costume he found in the locker room like everybody else in the tournament?

What i think, is your wrong. Monkey D Dragon IS really that strong. U_U

well im sold. close the thread

 

[TheHokage]

Sabo is working under Dragon and he's wrecking the likes of Burgess.

Also the fact that those working below Dragon are at the level of Iva and Kuma show that Dragon is OP, if he can still challenge the World Government and the Marines despite this it shows just how strong Dragon is.

Dragon is going to be like a Prime Garp with a powerful DF.

In a 1 on 1 situation Dragon wrecks any of the current Yonkou.

 

[Kurama2012]

how can you have an opinion on a character we haven't seen fight or know what abilitys he may have he must be plenty strong if the government can't get the guy

also doesnt usopp act like a coward around every enemy that is strong so by the same logic you used for ivankov and dragon that should mean luffy is weak and should not have beat the likes of crocodile whose subordinates were not cowards

 

[Zorø]

burgess is strong i think... garp punched him and it was like nothing happnd. he did the same with marco and we know what happnd. bandage to the head during the funeral and hes supposdly heal.

i think the armor isnt his... like luffy. just used some armor from the locker room. and the armor doesnt matter anyway. sabo can break any armor he wants.

Are you implying Burgess is stronger than Marco? if so you my friend is not watching One piece Jesus Burgess shat himself when Garp punched him.

 

[Olorin]

Nothing I can really say other than I think Dragon is currently the most powerful character in OP

And yes I do actually think he is about Roger lvl (slight difference being in their possible fruits) ... Come at me now

That being said, I really hope Kuzan joins up ... Also it looks Sabo is enough to pit a very good fight against burgess and I doubt it that Sabo is the best Dragon has

 

[Kuzan]

Dragon is one of the strongest alive, if not the strongest. Sabo is not all he got, he probably has some crazy strong commanders left.

 

[the nine tails]

well remember first time we saw ace ??? we knew back then he was a captain of the whitebeard pirates yet he couldn't beat a marine captain !!! i guess that answerd you're question

 

[Straw Hat Zoro]

Like many of people have stated here Dragon has to be very strong. If he wasn't we would have gotten an arc about him when the Straw Hats where still on the Grand Line. Since we are now in the New World and Dragon has yet to be revealed since being here let alone the power level of Sabo shows you Dragon is a beast. Just a Beast we havent learned to much about yet.

 

[Olorin]

well remember first time we saw ace ??? we knew back then he was a captain of the whitebeard pirates yet he couldn't beat a marine captain !!! i guess that answerd you're question

remember the first time we saw ace when he was the 2nd division commander of the WB pirates and didn't even fight that said marine