Firstly, Danzo was greedy - that was his downfal - and also a reference to the latest chapter in that the statue that itachi chose was the statue that removes greed - ie danzo ironically pushed him towards that whilst standing under the other statue.
On top of that, his moto i suppose would be 'any means to an end'.
He was always thinking of the greater good for the village (proven by his death against sasuke where he sacrificed his sharingan arms + his life to stop sasuke and protect the village), but his tactics and ideology is stretched and distorted, causing him to go around messing other peoples lives up for what he thought would help, and satisfy the greater good.
ultimately he failed in every aspect, but what can you say, he was doing what he thought was right - even if he seemed greedy whilst doing it.
Perhaps his arrogance pursuaded him to beleive he was what was best for the world
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doesnt change the fact that people were dying even with her healing power yet he chose not to help. thats pretty effed up if you ask me and evil. again its like hes just letting people do the dirty work while he still gets credited for it.
The people who were dying were the necessary sacrifice to prove that Tsunade is not a capable Hokage, thus securing his chance as a Hokage, and if he would get killed in a fight then it will not do him any good, Because without him, root will be no more, as you can see that when he was dying he took Karin hostage to buy some time to use the Ka on the right person, not to save his life,but to make sure he take's tobi down,he is the type of men who does not thinks on the moral ground, but chooses the absolute path to achieve his goal,on top of that he was sure that he can make the village stronger then ever that's why he did not fight.
and pain was not hitting the civilian, intentionally he was only trying to interrogate Ninja, who are basically soldier's and in a war they die, and He had no way of knowing that pain can and will destroy the entire village in a single shot.
The people who were dying were the necessary sacrifice to prove that Tsunade is not a capable Hokage, thus securing his chance as a Hokage, and if he would get killed in a fight then it will not do him any good, Because without him, root will be no more, as you can see that when he was dying he took Karin hostage to buy some time to use the Ka on the right person, not to save his life,but to make sure he take's tobi down,he is the type of men who does not thinks on the moral ground, but chooses the absolute path to achieve his goal,on top of that he was sure that he can make the village stronger then ever that's why he did not fight.
and pain was not hitting the civilian, intentionally he was only trying to interrogate Ninja, who are basically soldier's and in a war they die, and He had no way of knowing that pain can and will destroy the entire village in a single shot.
even so with all that said about him wanting to improve things he almost comes off as a sort of ninja dictator which hopefully we all understand dictatorship does not work because not one person can make every decision right thats life. also about him not knowing that pain could 1 hit the entire konoha town and kill alot of people in the mean time is understandable but doesnt justify why he didnt help out. I know you said he wouldnt be able to be kage if he did but that proves he isnt fit either because ALL kages are supposed to do that. What makes him the right one if he doesnt even take a stand for his country literally he went about things the wrong way and at the same time he is just evil as he even set up so much of his events so secretly.
A true leader shouldnt have to hide 95 percent of his/her actions he/she should take responsibility at all cost even if it meant he could/would get hurt and also go about things the right way instead of secret organization and what not. Tsunade didnt wanna be Hokage in the first place but decided to do it because she knew it would be the right thing even though she knows she isnt perfect.
i don't even have to read your post to know whats going on here. But the anwser to this question. Is all in the flashback for danzo right before he died.
One of the most important moments in his life. Was when he was unable to stand up and say "i will be the one to go and sacrifice myself, for the rest of you". Hiruzen did it first. Danzo was mad at himself for being a coward and that he was releived that he wouldn't have to do it.
Danzo wanted to be the hero. But it wasn't him. All of his flaws were revealed to us. And you are suppose to understand him more and cut him a break in a way.
This recent chapter does make you hate danzo even more though. His goal was indeed to protect his village. He wanted to be its hero. But he just couldn't. And his methods proved out to be wrong. Not only were they wrong though but in most cases he made matters worse.
He was still hiruzens friend. He wanted to play a part. He struggled to do the right thing the right way.
The people who were dying were the necessary sacrifice to prove that Tsunade is not a capable Hokage, thus securing his chance as a Hokage, and if he would get killed in a fight then it will not do him any good, Because without him, root will be no more, as you can see that when he was dying he took Karin hostage to buy some time to use the Ka on the right person, not to save his life,but to make sure he take's tobi down,he is the type of men who does not thinks on the moral ground, but chooses the absolute path to achieve his goal,on top of that he was sure that he can make the village stronger then ever that's why he did not fight.
and pain was not hitting the civilian, intentionally he was only trying to interrogate Ninja, who are basically soldier's and in a war they die, and He had no way of knowing that pain can and will destroy the entire village in a single shot.
a lot of you are saying the same thing about the instance of, danzo letting pain into the village and not fighting him.
It doesn't matter if he didn't know what pain was gonna do.
Didn't you people see the batman movie The Dark Knight. Its the first example i'm thinking of atm where harvey dent interrogates the policemen who drove him and rachell to the bad guys.
"I didn't know what they were gonna do to you". Cry me a river you treaterous ****s? death to you.
WOW! pplus rep for that definitly. you guys are pretty smart i like thinking from different perspectives. also not to get off topic but....damn i love that avatar of yours! i hope i can find that picture somewhere or something similar at least!
I don't care if he loved his country, almost everything he did was extremely amoral, aggressive, and self serving. That's like saying Hitler was a good guy because he loved his country.
villian because he f****** took shisui's eye just because he tried to use his MS ability. and if itachi didnt have the other eye he would've taken that one as well. also when pain attacked the village he killed that messenger frog so that naruto wouldnt know about the attack and come back to beat pain. he did that because he wanted the village to be destroyed so he could blame tsunade; have her removed as hokage, and him take control
villian because he f****** took shisui's eye just because he tried to use his MS ability. and if itachi didnt have the other eye he would've taken that one as well. also when pain attacked the village he killed that messenger frog so that naruto wouldnt know about the attack and come back to beat pain. he did that because he wanted the village to be destroyed so he could blame tsunade; have her removed as hokage, and him take control
even so with all that said about him wanting to improve things he almost comes off as a sort of ninja dictator which hopefully we all understand dictatorship does not work because not one person can make every decision right thats life. also about him not knowing that pain could 1 hit the entire konoha town and kill alot of people in the mean time is understandable but doesnt justify why he didnt help out. I know you said he wouldnt be able to be kage if he did but that proves he isnt fit either because ALL kages are supposed to do that. What makes him the right one if he doesnt even take a stand for his country literally he went about things the wrong way and at the same time he is just evil as he even set up so much of his events so secretly.
A true leader shouldnt have to hide 95 percent of his/her actions he/she should take responsibility at all cost even if it meant he could/would get hurt and also go about things the right way instead of secret organization and what not. Tsunade didnt wanna be Hokage in the first place but decided to do it because she knew it would be the right thing even though she knows she isnt perfect.
Here you have to understand Danzo's way of living and his ideals as a Ninja, First thing for a ninja is to remain in shadow's and protect his country. which root and Danzo has been doing all the time, it is not dictator ship but a control is necessary, what you are becoming that matter's a lot in this scenario, in Naruto the Hokage's are tecnically Military general's, and the Hidden village's are Military power, and They both answer to the feudal lord (country head),
Now as i stated in my previous post, Danzo clearly belieave's that he is better then the previous Hokage's, and it is true, you no why, just Look at the previous two Hokage's and the decision they made, Hiruzen could not kill Orochimaru when he cought him red handed doing experiment, because he got emotional after remembering his student's child hood, And we all know how that turned out.
And Tsunade was also doing the same thing when dealing with Naruto, it is only because of her lenient behavior Naruto chases Sasuke like a fool all over the place, and to protect him from akatsuki, Many high lvl ninja have to run around with him like a fool (Yamato,Kakashi),
There were literally two big mission's when they assembled an entire platoon to go after Sasuke, a total waste of time and resource, when they could have been in the village making naruto and village itself stronger, and Also It would have been possible for Jiraiya to take Kakashi with him to Amegakure (Both of them together would have won the fight), but no he was not there, why? Because he was running to chase down Sasuke on a kids whim, who says believe it for every damn situation.
Danzo never thought that giving one's life at the first place is the best solution for a Hokage, and if you see that in real war, there are soldiers who go on to front line's and fight, while generals issue order's, that does not mean that they can not fight or they are coward's or unfit for leadership.
A leader's (specially a military leader) quality is, that he should never give in to his emotion's and do not allow them to cloud his judgement, and he should never choke on hard decision, and at last, he should be ready to give his life If it is Necessary, And Danzo has all of them, but Tsunade let her emotion cloud her judgment, so Danzo is more better leader then Tsunade imo.
And remember this, every country has a secret organisation, without them doing the work behind the shadow's, no one can run a country peacefully.
Root in the Naruto is the same as CIA in america. xd
Now i will give you another key point here why Danzo did not go to fight, If you remember the chapter when Tsunade was traying to call Naruto back, but Danzo killed that frog and made sure that he does not come's back, thus he successfully aliminated the possible life loss in the village, How?.
Pain was looking for naruto and it was clear that if he get's to know that he is not in the village then he will retreat, wich he was doing pretty much, but Then Tsunade's will 0f fire kicked in and she doomed the entire village, See here..
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If it was Danzo in her place, he would simply let the pain retreat, and then form a strategy to deal with him and protect the nine tails.
Also this is another plan he was thinking for a while..
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Had he eliminated her, it would have reduced Kabuto's power to half.
Now take a look at this old man's ideology for a safe country and Shinobi, he wished only what is best for his country.
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I hope it help you understand that, this guy is not as bad as people make him out to be, his method's are extreme but he gets the job done, and some time you need just that to solve a problem.
a lot of you are saying the same thing about the instance of, danzo letting pain into the village and not fighting him.
It doesn't matter if he didn't know what pain was gonna do.
Didn't you people see the batman movie The Dark Knight. Its the first example i'm thinking of atm where harvey dent interrogates the policemen who drove him and rachell to the bad guys.
"I didn't know what they were gonna do to you". Cry me a river you treaterous ****s? death to you.
villian because he f****** took shisui's eye just because he tried to use his MS ability. and if itachi didnt have the other eye he would've taken that one as well. also when pain attacked the village he killed that messenger frog so that naruto wouldnt know about the attack and come back to beat pain. he did that because he wanted the village to be destroyed so he could blame tsunade; have her removed as hokage, and him take control
So true. Glad you pointed that out because its been a while since i've seen the pain arc so i had to refresh my memory. definitly an evil and selfish move.
