Is Base Naruto Weak & Slow?

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Naruto was is hence he was able to keep up with base Sasuje and the RS is stronger than any Katon Sasuke has.
But katon > futon. Futon will just make the flame stronger.
 

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Again? Your previous point is proven to be irrelevant, this one isn't any different. As it's been admitted by many people in this thread, The Last has many flaws, which, should your point be correct, would've been corrected as well should it's creators' intention be accuracy.

except that besides little kid naruto failing to use a kage bushin nothing else really contradicts the manga it only adds things
 

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Fact is a fact, rasengans are blue in the anime, movie is anime. No official info of the fixes around.

In the Anime the Rasengan is universally blue not matter what. Be it Base/Sm/Kcm or Bm. They're all blue.

So tell me, Why would the movie creators suddenly change a kyuubi influenced chakra to yellow when it has always been univerally blue?. Quite a coincidence they change it to the official colour now isn't it.
 
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In the Anime the Rasengan is universally blue not matter what. Be it Base/Sm/Kcm or Bm. They're all blue.

So tell me, Why would the movie creators suddenly change a kyuubi influenced chakra to yellow when it has always been univerally blue?.

I never said it's influenced by Kyuubi, specificly. It might be influenced by the Six Paths chakra, for instance. Or Naruto's bandaged hand (which origins are still not confirmed, as far as I know). Or any other bijuu chakra that's still inside of Naruto. We haven't seen their colours in the anime yet.

except that besides little kid naruto failing to use a kage bushin nothing else really contradicts the manga it only adds things

That's a huge contradiction and it's more than enough to say they weren't really accurate.
 

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But katon > futon. Futon will just make the flame stronger.

Just because it has an elemental advantage doesn't mean it's overpowering Naruto's RS. Sasuke's C and B rank Katon isn't overpowering Naruto's S-Rank futon.
 

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I never said it's influenced by Kyuubi, specificly. It might be influenced by the Six Paths chakra, for instance. Or any other bijuu chakra that's still inside of Naruto. We haven't seen their colours in the anime yet.

It being influenced by the six paths chakra shouldn't change it from Blue to yellow since the rasengan has always been universally blue, neither Senjutsu or Bijuu chakra has ever changed it's colour in the anime.

So there is no reason for other chakra's to start influencing it's chakra in the current movie.
 

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*sigh* You're a dumbass,

Yet another insult. It's really become boring, you clearly can't keep up with a civil discussion.

rasengan' shave been blue regardless of KURAMA's chakra

I'll repeat it for you, specificly, since you're certainly a special kid :lol :

I never said it's influenced by Kyuubi, specificly. It might be influenced by the Six Paths chakra, for instance. Or Naruto's bandaged hand (which origins are still not confirmed, as far as I know). Or any other bijuu chakra that's still inside of Naruto. We haven't seen their colours in the anime yet.
Might as well be a fire-natured Rasenshuriken influenced by Son.

so again you saying it's not base because it's yellow isn't valid

Yes, it is until proven otherwise, which it's not

because even if he did use Kurama it would still be blue by anime standards.

Never said it's definitely Kurama's chakra, can be any other chakra he has inside of him usage of what we haven't seen yet, which are plenty of them.

So you have not proved anything,

Can't you read? For the 11th time, I'm not even trying to prove anything, you are. And you indeed haven't proven anything.

in the it comes down to if you have working brain cell or or not. You clearly do not, so you can say in wring when you show me a scan or KURAMA's chakra making his rasengan yellow.

How can I even give you a scan where the chakra is yellow if the manga is black and white, my special friend? :lol


Now I'm really done with you, don't wanna make you embarass yourself even more than you've already done by now, plus my time for special children is out for today. But it might change if you give a proof to your point! :win:
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It being influenced by the six paths chakra shouldn't change it from Blue to yellow since the rasengan has always been universally blue, neither Senjutsu or Bijuu chakra has ever changed it's colour in the anime.

So there is no reason for other chakra's to start influencing it's chakra in the current movie.

You don't know that, since we haven't seen in in the anime yet.
 
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When did you reply to that? and so naruto can use a kyuubi RS but he can't use a regular one? The only difference is he's usinga different chakra that's it. and bias what?

I asked about his base feats, not what he could do in base feats.

I said you're bias because you involve kurama powers when I asked everyone else to stick to base stuff, then you'te making it look like I dislike naruto by asking me the question you did.

- Let's settle this point... Do you consider kyuubi chakra attacks as normal?
 

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Just because it has an elemental advantage doesn't mean it's overpowering Naruto's RS. Sasuke's C and B rank Katon isn't overpowering Naruto's S-Rank futon.
:| Yamato even told Naruto Sasuke's katon would beat his FRS but his FRS would beat his chidori.
 

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Yet another insult. It's really become boring, you clearly can't keep up with a civil discussion.



I'll repeat it for you, specificly, since you're certainly a special kid :lol :


Might as well be a fire-natured Rasenshuriken influenced by Son.



Yes, it is until proven otherwise, which it's not



Never said it's definitely Kurama's chakra, can be any other chakra he has inside of him usage of what we haven't seen yet, which are plenty of them.



Can't you read? For the 11th time, I'm not even trying to prove anything, you are. And you indeed haven't proven anything.



How can I even give you a scan where the chakra is yellow if the manga is black and white, my special friend? :lol


Now I'm really done with you, don't wanna make you embarass yourself even more than you've already done by now, plus my time for special children is out for today. But it might change if you give a proof to your point! :win:
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You don't know that, since we haven't seen in in the anime yet.

That's your best excuse how can I show you in a black and white manga lol, there's a thing called color pages dumbass. You're the special one here not me, bye and have fun with that L you took.
 

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:| Yamato even told Naruto Sasuke's katon would beat his FRS but his FRS would beat his chidori.

Meh, some people fail to realize that huge amount of wind can extinguish the fire. Smh
 

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:| Yamato even told Naruto Sasuke's katon would beat his FRS but his FRS would beat his chidori.

No he said he's at a disadvantage at that point the RS wasn't even complete and he doesn't what Katon techs Sasuke has.
 

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I asked about his base feats, not what he could do in base feats.

I said you're bias because you involve kurama powers when I asked everyone else to stick to base stuff, then you'te making it look like I dislike naruto by asking me the question you did.

- Let's settle this point... Do you consider kyuubi chakra attacks as normal?
No, I should ask you why you think naruto can't use a regular RS in base. He displayed RS enhanced by kyuubi chakra so what's stopping him from making a regular one? I said you downplay him because you said he used sm to save chocho & sarada but he used his base speed to save them and in another thread you think sasuke in the lasts chidori is stronger than RSM naruto's bijuudama Rasenshuriken. Despite me and sennin of logic showing you proof that it isn't.
 

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I think you guys are forgetting that Madara used Susanoo without even having a Sharingan in his eye socket. Is it really out of the realm of possibility that Sasuke could used his Mangekyou techniques now in his base form? I know he hasn't shown the ability to do so but we do know it's possible.
 

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Fire > Wind > lightning > water nv logic.

So we have to disregard common sense here and accept BS, huh? Fire becomes stronger as long as the wind quantity is lesser than the fire. Wind acts as a fuel if it's power is lesser than the fire, but when it goes higher, it extinguishes fire.
 
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I haven't seen anything to make me think his base is weak or slow. He's impressed me as much as Sasuke IMHO
 
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