Is Base Naruto Weak & Slow?

[Mari Makinami]

Read the thread you're going to have to show me proof that Natuto's rasengan are orange when he's using Kurama chakra or we're going to havee to assume the most logical answer and say the they correct the error....Dumbass.

So no proof to your fanfics here and you even come to insults... Looks like our kid is out of arguments :sdo:

 

[-Akuma-]

So no proof to your fanfics here and you even come to insults... Looks like our kid is out of arguments :sdo:

Nice argument I posted links and Naruto was in base when he threw it you have brought no evidence showing that he was using Kurama chakra nice reply, as expected from an idiotic Sasuke Base member.

 

[Exaar]

Not really.

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Sasuke already mastered Fire,and Lightining style in the main story. So if he mastered the other 3 Elements - Wind,Earth,and Water, he could use them in base aswell as many other non elemental techniques like sealing.

All you are using is "ifs", So you have no valid argument.

Even so, You seem to overlook that the databooks also claim naruto has all 5 elements. Also you overlook the fact that Naruto can also master almost any jutsu he pleases due to his Mass clone training technique he learned from Kakashi. Naruto can put in Years, Even decades worth of training in mere weeks/months.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

He displayed pure footspeed when saving CHou CHou and Sarada, so yes he does.


OT; Nah he is strong in base.

Was that really a feat? Naruto had the element of surprised and grabbed them while Shin was attacking. It's not like Shin knew he was coming,and tried to outspeed him.

Naruto also suddenly appeared to save Sakura from Sasuke during the Kage summit. Back then he had the element of surprised aswell.

A speed feat would be what Sasuke did to Naruto at the begining of Part 2,and when he blitzed Madara.


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All you are using is "ifs", So you have no valid argument.

Even so, You seem to overlook that the databooks also claim naruto has all 5 elements. Also you overlook the fact that Naruto can also master almost any jutsu he pleases due to his Mass clone training technique he learned from Kakashi. Naruto can put in Years, Even decades worth of training in mere weeks/months.

Oh so you point out how i'm speculating yet you were with assuming base Naruto was on 3 tomoe Sasuke's level.

We are both speculating, except mines holds more ground cause i am basing it more so on facts.

First how does Naruto have all 5 basic nature elements? He is naturally a wind user,and has other elements due to the Bijuu - so for example - he has lava style due to the 4 tails. Lava style is Earth and Fire combined so do you think he can use each element seperately? Or just Lava style.

Also don't go OOC. Go with the flow of the story. Naruto is busy with work,do you think he's out training all the time to learn massive amounts of different techniques?

And he can't learn/master nearly all techniques like Sasuke - The Sharingan can copy a jutsu perfectly just from seeing it once,and since Sasuke is a very quick learner he could learn to use/master jutsu without copying it with the Sharingan meaning he could use it in base.

Matter of fact Naruto was said not to be good with hand seals by Jiraiya, hence more of a reason why Jiraiya wanted him to learn the Rasengan, so i highly doubt he's learn alot of techniques which need hand seals.

 

[Mari Makinami]

Nice argument I posted links and Naruto was in base when he threw it you have brought no evidence showing that he was using Kurama chakra nice reply, as expected from an idiotic Sasuke Base member.

Yet another insult. Nice of you to show the average intelligence and debating skills of NB :lol You haven't given a link to any reliable source that directly confirms what you're trying to prove here. I think we can call it now, since you're obviously too frustrated to continue a healthy discussion without insults, especially since you haven't given any evidence to prove your point anyway, and you had more than ample time to do so.

 

[Jiraiyathesannin]

In base form he was able to (while completely exhausted and recently having all of his chakra absorbed seconds ago) stand up, and uppercut sasuke before sasuke was able to land his chidori which was already in motion (sasuke having just absorbed kyuubi chakra). That uppercut then sent sasuke flying maybe 10 meters and cracking the stone behind him.

 

[seventh 09]

Was that really a feat? Naruto had the element of surprised and grabbed them while Shin was attacking. It's not like Shin knew he was coming,and tried to outspeed him.

Naruto also suddenly appeared to save Sakura from Sasuke during the Kage summit. Back then he had the element of surprised aswell.

A speed feat would be what Sasuke did to Naruto at the begining of Part 2,and when he blitzed Madara.


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the naruto one is true and while in the madara one he was fast it doesnt prove hes faster than madara since he didnt care about being cut in half all he wanted was kakashis eye to get back his rinnegan

 

[itatchi31]

Idiot read the book,there's no way for someone to start off weak and slow.An to stay that way through constant training of course you're going to improve all around.Base Naruto was already kage lvl during war.Current Version only improved with more training through out the years. Failed thread no point.

 

[Berserker]

In base form he was able to (while completely exhausted and recently having all of his chakra absorbed seconds ago) stand up, and uppercut sasuke before sasuke was able to land his chidori which was already in motion (sasuke having just absorbed kyuubi chakra). That uppercut then sent sasuke flying maybe 10 meters and cracking the stone behind him.

The Kyuubi chakra was formed to fit Nautos build only. Because his rinnegan was new he couldn't adapt the chakra properly hence he made a chidori and then somehow(i guess plot) his sharigan cuts off in the middle of using chidori. Chidoris weakness was always the counter attack so that's not really a fair evaluation of base feats. Base Naruto has good stamina which is something we all know.

 

[-Akuma-]

Yet another insult. Nice of you to show the average intelligence and debating skills of NB :lol You haven't given a link to any reliable source that directly confirms what you're trying to prove here. I think we can call it now, since you're obviously too frustrated to continue a healthy discussion without insults, and especially since you haven't given any evidence to prove your point anyway.

It's obvious that they corrected an error besides you're the one who claimed he was using Kurama chakra when he had no signs of a cloak and shower no evidence of any rasengan being yellow when using Kurama chakra in the anime. But I shouldn't expected better for a Sasuke Base member.

 

[lndra]

Was that really a feat? Naruto had the element of surprised and grabbed them while Shin was attacking. It's not like Shin knew he was coming,and tried to outspeed him.

Naruto also suddenly appeared to save Sakura from Sasuke during the Kage summit. Back then he had the element of surprised aswell.

A speed feat would be what Sasuke did to Naruto at the begining of Part 2,and when he blitzed Madara.


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Yes considering that by the time Naruto arrived, Chou CHou was already going to be sliced in half my Shin's weapon. Naruto had saved Sarada first, then grabbed Chou CHou, all while Shin could not react nor stop him.

 

[Sage konohamaru]

Base naruto is mid-kage level

 

[Seventh Sama]

are you talking about this? let me know so that I can reply.

yeah.
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[Mari Makinami]

It's obvious that they corrected an error besides you're the one who claimed he was using Kurama chakra when he had no signs of a cloak and shower no evidence of any rasengan being yellow when using Kurama chakra in the anime. But I shouldn't expected better for a Sasuke Base member.

The movie is anime. In anime, base rasengan is blue, so is Rasenshuriken. In the movie it's not blue, therefore it's not base, that's all that's relevant to the topic we discuss here. "Obvious" is never a valid argument, since it's a term that refers to a certain point of view. If you're claiming some explaination to be true, you need to provide a valid proof to it. Otherwise it's not legit. Which you didn't, instead you've started throwing insults, which clearly indicates that you can't prove your point. Geez, what do they even teach you in school nowadays?

 

[Narutrol]

Yes considering that by the time Naruto arrived, Chou CHou was already going to be sliced in half my Shin's weapon. Naruto had saved Sarada first, then grabbed Chou CHou, all while Shin could not react nor stop him.

Hokage interrupted a kid fight, its a lesser feat than when naruto solo white zetsu clone

 

[seventh 09]

The movie is anime. In anime, base rasengan is blue, so is Rasenshuriken. In the movie it's not blue, therefore it's not base, that's all that's relevant to the topic we discuss here. "Obvious" is never a valid argument, since it's a term that refers to a certain point of view. If you're claiming some explaination to be true, you need to provide a valid proof to it. Which you didn't, instead you've started throwing insults, which clearly indicates that you can't prove your point. Otherwise it's not legit. Geez, what do they even teach you in school nowadays?

hinatas chakra is purple in the movie and blue in the anime how do you explain that and dont try to use the hamura excuse because there is no clear indication (like for example hagoromo with sasuke and naruto) of hamura giving her anything he just gave her a mission that only she could do since shes a descendant

 

[Exaar]

The movie is anime. In anime, base rasengan is blue, so is Rasenshuriken. In the movie it's not blue, therefore it's not base, that's all that's relevant to the topic we discuss here. "Obvious" is never a valid argument, since it's a term that refers to a certain point of view. If you're claiming some explaination to be true, you need to provide a valid proof to it. Otherwise it's not legit. Geez, what do they even teach you in school nowadays?

The bold is pretty shitty logic.
It's more likely they simply corrected the colour of the rasengan.

Since i haven't seen the movie yet, You should be able to tell from naruto's eyes if he was tapping into Kurama's chakra (if you can see them that is). Besides a Kurama enhanced rasengan was said to be red not yellow

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I'm sure there are offical colour scans out there somewhere if you'd like to look them up and prove people wrong instead of asking them for evidence all the time.

 

[Mari Makinami]

hinatas chakra is purple in the movie and blue in the anime how do you explain that and dont try to use the hamura excuse because there is no clear indication (like for example hagoromo with sasuke and naruto) of hamura giving her anything he just gave her a mission that only she could do since shes a descendant

Why would I even want to explain that, and how is this relevant to what we're discussing here?

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

the naruto one is true and while in the madara one he was fast it doesnt prove hes faster than madara since he didnt care about being cut in half all he wanted was kakashis eye to get back his rinnegan

I wasn't saying Sasuke was faster than Madara. I was pointing out how that was a speed feat for Sasuke,even Madara praised him on his speed.

Yes considering that by the time Naruto arrived, Chou CHou was already going to be sliced in half my Shin's weapon. Naruto had saved Sarada first, then grabbed Chou CHou, all while Shin could not react nor stop him.

He definitely showed speed, but it's not like he was fighting an opponent who was fully aware of facing him in battle, like Shin dodging the Kyuubi hands.

 

[-Akuma-]

The movie is anime. In anime, base rasengan is blue, so is Rasenshuriken. In the movie it's not blue, therefore it's not base, that's all that's relevant to the topic we discuss here. "Obvious" is never an a valid argument, since it's a term that refers to a certain point of view. If you're claiming some explaination to be true, you need to provide a valid proof to it. Otherwise it's not legit. Geez, what do they even teach you in school nowadays?

The rasengan being blue was a mustake again so no, Kishi himself worked on the movie so yes a mistake being corrected would make sense. Again even in the anime KURAMA's CHAKRA has had no influence on its colour so again that's not a good enough reason to say it not base, plus Naruto had no sort chakra cloak when he threw it. Again you claim it wasn't in base with no sort of good evidence what so ever.