Is Ay faster than Minato can react?

[End of Days]

I see that shelke and a few others are upto their usual shitposting.

Minato surpassed raikage in every speed department.

 

[NarutoX28]

I see that shelke and a few others are upto their usual shitposting.

Minato surpassed raikage in every speed department.

Yeah, that's a load of shit when we have a statement of Base Raikage being compared to Base Minato.

 

[End of Days]

Yeah, that's a load of shit when we have a statement of Base Raikage being compared to Base Minato.

Lmao. Minato executed 4-5 moves while raikage was dumbfounded to do anything.

He flipped a kunai, teleported to a tree, teleported back to raikage, grabbed the kunai and slashed him (almost) all while raikage had still not recovered and was still trying to punch him.

Minato's reactions far surpass him.

So you can stop with your shitposting.

 

[Xlad]

Ei praised Minato for his reaction speed. Pretty sure he isn't the type that praises anyone.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Ei praised Minato for his reaction speed. Pretty sure he isn't the type that praises anyone.

Manga scan?

 

[NarutoX28]

Lmao. Minato executed 4-5 moves while raikage was dumbfounded to do anything.

He flipped a kunai, teleported to a tree, teleported back to raikage, grabbed the kunai and slashed him (almost) all while raikage had still not recovered and was still trying to punch him.

This is quite frankly, an irrelevant point. What matters is what Minato could do in response to Raikage's speed which was simply flipping a Kunai. The rest is irrelevant as Raikage was no longer moving at high speeds as he realized exactly what Minato was planning at that instant.

He had already planned out his entire move and since FTG is instant, he can simply warp

Minato's reactions far surpass him.

So you can stop with your shitposting.

I agree, he planned out his entire move likely because he was given time due to Raikage amping up his Raiton Cloak.

Nope, Minato's reactions are shit compared to Raikage's. Manga states it and you seem to have not addressed that statement, so that takes a dump on whatever kind of bullshit you try to come up with.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Lmao. Minato executed 4-5 moves while raikage was dumbfounded to do anything.

He flipped a kunai, teleported to a tree, teleported back to raikage, grabbed the kunai and slashed him (almost) all while raikage had still not recovered and was still trying to punch him.

Minato's reactions far surpass him.

So you can stop with your shitposting.

Reaction speed had nothing to do with it after Minato FTG'd to the Kunai.

BTW, he didn't flip the Kunai, he dropped it to FTG to the Kunai he had already thrown in multiple directions if you pay attention to the manga pages linked already.

The rest literally are just Minato's speed feats, not reaction feats. You can't even legit call FTG a speed feat because it's INSTANT, and an S/T Technique.

Ay's reaction > Minato's. Get over it.

 

[Xlad]

Manga scan?

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What the hell?

 

[SenseiSama]

FTG =/= Body Flicker..

FTG is Instant, and Bodyflicker requires movement. Being proficient in bodyflicker doesn't mean you'll be proficient in FTG. Not that either correlates to one another as like I said one is purely based on self movement, while the other is S/T.

And high level shunshin = high level S/t

If his shunshin was average then Ay and Obito would never have lost to him due to their reaction speeds. Naruto's shunshin was compared to Minato's which should tell you that his body flicker was far from average

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Minato was the best user of S/t because his shunshin was one of the best in the manga, he was known for his body flicker as much as he was for his use of FTG U_U

 

[NarutoX28]

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What the hell?

And the entire fight was centered around KCM Naruto surpassing Raikage because he dodged his "fastest punch".

How did Minato do it? By dodging his fastest punch with FTG. Not an indication that Minato surpassed Raikage in reaction speed.

 

[NarutoX28]

And high level shunshin = high level S/t

If his shunshin was average then Ay and Obito would never have lost to him due to their reaction speeds. Naruto's shunshin was compared to Minato's which should tell you that his body flicker was far from average

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Minato was the best user of S/t because his shunshin was one of the best in the manga, he was known for his body flicker as much as he was for his use of FTG U_U

Obito lost due to a combination of Minato's reaction speed and FTG. Flicker had nothing to do with it as Obito had no problem tracking it. Most of Hiraishin's effectiveness is obtained through confusing his opponent, so while Minato's reaction speed played a role, it didn't play as much of a role as it was Minato utilizing Hiraishin to tip Obito off-guard.

Minato also never used Shunshin against Raikage, so I'm not sure where you're getting at here.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

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What the hell?

Says faster, as in SPEED. Not Reaction. Smh.

 

[SenseiSama]

Obito lost due to a combination of Minato's reaction speed and FTG. Flicker had nothing to do with it as Obito had no problem tracking it. Most of Hiraishin's effectiveness is obtained through confusing his opponent, so while Minato's reaction speed played a role, it didn't play as much of a role as it was Minato utilizing Hiraishin to tip Obito off-guard.

Minato also never used Shunshin against Raikage, so I'm not sure where you're getting at here.

Except you ignored the scan I posted where KCM Naruto's speed was compared to Minato's

You should know that S/t is only works against speedsters when the user has high level of speed, the best example is how Kaguya was unable to grab Naruto or how Sasuke is unable to use Ameno against Naruto without distraction.

Raikage's V2 gives him the ability to react to MS Sasuke and KCM Naruto, yet he was never able to counter Minato's S/t like Naruto countering Kaguya's, that should tell you the 4th Hokage's natural speed was at the very least on par with KCM.

 

[End of Days]

This is quite frankly, an irrelevant point. What matters is what Minato could do in response to Raikage's speed which was simply flipping a Kunai. The rest is irrelevant as Raikage was no longer moving at high speeds as he realized exactly what Minato was planning at that instant.

Can't tell whether stupid or troll, Minato did all of those in reponse to Raikage's fastest speed.

Raikage didn't magically stopped moving when minato flipped a kunai, the whole scene was shown in slow motion.

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Minato is just that fast

I agree, he planned out his entire move likely because he was given time due to Raikage amping up his Raiton Cloak.

No, Minato was surprised when Raikage charged, he came up with all of it in a nick of a second

Nope, Minato's reactions are shit compared to Raikage's. Manga states it and you seem to have not addressed that statement, so that takes a dump on whatever kind of bullshit you try to come up with.

Let me dumb it down for you, Speed and Reaction speed go hand in hand in the manga.

That is to say the faster a ninja is , the greater his reaction speed will be.

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[NarutoX28]

Can't tell whether stupid or troll, Minato did all of those in reponse to Raikage's fastest speed.

Raikage didn't magically stopped moving when minato flipped a kunai, the whole scene was shown in slow motion.

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Minato is just that fast

And you're not telling me why that's an impressive feat. If Obito wasn't caught off-guard by it, I have no reason why that's a display of high reaction speed.

No, Minato was surprised when Raikage charged, he came up with all of it in a nick of a second

He was surprised by his speed, but he planned everything, hence why he attempted to take control over the battle-field while Minato had a few seconds to collect himself when Raikage was amping up his Raiton Cloak.

Let me dumb it down for you, Speed and Reaction speed go hand in hand in the manga.

That is to say the faster a ninja is , the greater his reaction speed will be.

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Doesn't even refute the statement. Nice job trying to dodge what the manga's trying to convey. Major props to you for that.

Being faster doesn't imply higher reaction speed, it's merely only an aspect of speed. Even then, I fail to comprehend how this refutes the manga. If you're seriously implying that Minato has higher reaction speed because he displayed superior speed through S/T ninjutsu, then I'm simply going to agree to disagree here because there's no reason to debate with someone who would go so far as to make a point like that.

 

[NarutoX28]

Except you ignored the scan I posted where KCM Naruto's speed was compared to Minato's

He was compared to the "Yellow Flash" which I have proven that it refers to his usage of Hiraishin, not his actual speed, so moot point. Even Raikage compares him to Minato afterwards for dodging his "Fastest Punch". How did Minato evade his Fastest Punch? Through Hiraishin of course.

Databook further supports this:

Raiton Chakra Mode

Raiton Chakra collects on the body, it's a body invigoration ninjutsu. From inside the body lightning gushes out, the speed of ones nerve transmissions rises. The body is wrapped in lightning, the jutsu durability is like that of armor. The Raikages' application of it causes their combat power to rise considerably.

It managed to chase Naruto's Bijuu Chakra Mode, however it was inferior to the great speed of the Yellow-Flash

Notice how it states, "Great speed of the Yellow-Flash," indicating that it was referring to his FTG.

You should know that S/t is only works against speedsters when the user has high level of speed, the best example is how Kaguya was unable to grab Naruto or how Sasuke is unable to use Ameno against Naruto without distraction.

S/T requires mental reactions, not physical reactions which is why he can still avoid Raikage with FTG despite having lower reactions.

Are you implying that Kaguya's physical reactions are lower than RSM Naruto's?

Raikage's V2 gives him the ability to react to MS Sasuke and KCM Naruto, yet he was never able to counter Minato's S/t like Naruto countering Kaguya's, that should tell you the 4th Hokage's natural speed was at the very least on par with KCM.

Except if Young Bee could react to Minato, why can't Raikage do the same?

 

[Yatori]

Minato had to react to Ay to evade him.

Dunno why this goes till page 4 while it's already being soloed at post #3 :bdpf:

 

[UnknownJin]

Yeah, with FTG, Minato is faster than Raikage, but that's literally not what's being argued here.

Dude .. u dont even know wtf are u talking about .. U say Ay is faster cause Minato is using FTG - In Ay's case he is faster cause he is using lighting element to boost his speed .. so ur point is shiit - There is a reason Why is Minato Yellow Flash and not Ay- Minato also have better reflexes and is faster then Ay without him using raiton

 

[Uchihakil]

If minato tried blitzing Ay with shuunshin NOT ftg, his ass would be murdered, so no, raikage is faster in both reaction and physical speed, minato is only faster with ftg, without ftg he can't dodge the raikage's fastest punch, so how does that make him have superior reflexes, it's only because of ftg, but despite his shuunshin been fast, still slower than raikage with v1 talkless of v2, cause in base they are equal, pretty simple

 

[Xlad]

Says faster, as in SPEED. Not Reaction. Smh.

Based on what? Speed and reaction are completely related to each other. Minato obviously needs enough reaction to keep up with Ei.