[KG] Iron Sand Training

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
Waits for Skorm..
 

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
Just me and ButterBiscuits.. No one unusual or wierd of course.
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
I don't believe you samasenpaiKUUUUN O____O'. Why.. What are you doing herreeee >_<"
 

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
ButterBiscuits is telling me I was on my way here to get some training? Right, boy? "Woof" Yeah something about iron sand and all that spaz.

You must be registered for see images
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
What is iron sand and how do you control it.
 

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
Before we can actually get into Iron Sand, I need to explain the power that allows Iron Sand to be controlled, which is Jiton or Magnet Release. Magnet Release is a KG which is formed with the combination of two elemental based chakras. It isn't confirmed which elements make up Jiton but on NB we have established it might be related to Lighting Chakra. Now, Jiton itself grants the user two very basic powers: control magnetic forces and magnetize objects. When Jiton chakra is used, it allows the user to either control objects that are naturally magnetic or use the chakra to magnetize the material/object so it can be controlled. Iron Sand is used just like that, its the medium that is used and controlled with Jiton Chakra. The user is able to control iron sand by enveloping the sand in Jiton chakra, allowing them to mold it to whatever they desire.

I think I got most of it? ~_~
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
Magnetism isn't made up by lightning, but earth and wind. When you combine earth+lightning you get bakuton, explosion style. However since its been believed that lightning indeed was part of the KG, it stands today that you need to have started lightning training to learn magnetism. You're talking more about the generic application of magnetism than the actual usage of iron sand though, which is the only type you can use after this training. Name a few users of the magnetic kekkei genkai and how they used their application of it.
 

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
Oh my bad. Third Kazekage used his magnetic chakra to utilize iron sand, the fourth Kazekage used his magnetic chakra to control gold dust and then there was toroi who magnetized shurikens and used them to attack.
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
Toroi magnetized his opponents to make his weaponry unable to miss their target actually. Anyway, that's not what we're learning here. Now then, what would you consider strengths and weaknesses of iron sand compared to the basic five elements and what do you think happens when iron sand clashes with the basic elements. What are pros and cons for the usage of iron sand in general? Why does it have such great reputation, afterall it was the third kazekage's invention and he was hailed as the greatest kazekage of all time.
 

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
Not completely sure if Iron Sand is weak to anything. If I had to take a guess, Iron Sand is most likely weak to Fire Release because of its melting point, a normal candlelight flame temperature is usually around the mark of 1,400 °C and Iron melts at 1,538°C. Keeping in mind, that this is just of a small candlelight, techniques in the narutoverse that vary in strength and size will obviously exceed that temperature of 1,400 °C and will in fact melt Iron. Since molten iron isn't magnetic, you can't really control it and thus your usage of it fails? Wind is neutral to Iron Sand probably because its able to blow it away but Iron Sand is heavy so its harder to move around. Lighting is neutral to Iron Sand because it can disrupt the magnetic fields controlling the sand but can't really destroy or damage the sand. Water is probably weak to Iron Sand, since the sand is a component of earth and earth is naturally stronger than water, Iron sand could be too. And its neutral to Earth? Gosh, I'm not really sure about this, so please correct me.

Pros: It's very versatile, the sand be formed into virtually anything, iron sand can be gathered from wherever earth is.

Cons: The Magnetic fields controlling the sand can be easily disrupted via lighting release

Iron Sand was created by the 3rd Kazekage after being inspired from watching Shukaku, he imitated how the bijuu controlled its sand via his Jiton KG and used hisiron sand to overpower the bijuu's sand and defeat it. Why was Iron Sand so effective? Probably due to its weight when compared to regular sand. It's probably how Sunagakure was able to control and seal the bijuu for so long in its village since the 3rd was able to control it every time it went lose or the jinchuriki lost control.
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
If I had to take a guess, Iron Sand is most likely weak to Fire Release because of its melting point, a normal candlelight flame temperature is usually around the mark of 1,400 °C and Iron melts at 1,538°C. Keeping in mind, that this is just of a small candlelight, techniques in the narutoverse that vary in strength and size will obviously exceed that temperature of 1,400 °C and will in fact melt Iron.
This logic is fine but not always applicable, since wood and paper are both neutral to fire as well. The melting point standards are very useful to keep in mind though when creating custom elements.
Since molten iron isn't magnetic, you can't really control it and thus your usage of it fails?
This is very true though but since neither paper nor wood would melt by great fire techniques i don't see iron sand doing that anytime soon. Infact, it could even be seen as a strength towards fire.
Wind is neutral to Iron Sand probably because its able to blow it away but Iron Sand is heavy so its harder to move around.
True, wind can be used in conjunction with iron sand techniques(trying to do such a thing with customs >_>) if used right. Magnetism is consisted of the wind and earth release so in reality it should be strong towards wind since it contains wind and earth. However, like you said, strong blasts of wind are neutral to strong magnetic forces that controls the iron sand.
Lighting is neutral to Iron Sand because it can disrupt the magnetic fields controlling the sand but can't really destroy or damage the sand.
Lightning chakra can disrupt magnetic fields of equal rank as the lightning, but when seen metals and metallic customs almost all of them are weak towards lightning as it can cut through the metals. Most metals are strong electric conductors and thus allow currents to travel through them easily.
Water is probably weak to Iron Sand, since the sand is a component of earth and earth is naturally stronger than water, Iron sand could be too.
Water is strong towards regular sand, but that's because regular sand turns into mud when soaked with the water and thus becomes uncontrollable. Iron sand is heavier than regular sand and is controlled through magnetism rather than how Gaara's sand is controlled.
And its neutral to Earth?
Yes. Iron sand erupts the earth so in short terms, it should be strong towards earth but seen as neutral anyway.

Iron Sand was created by the 3rd Kazekage after being inspired from watching Shukaku, he imitated how the bijuu controlled its sand via his Jiton KG and used hisiron sand to overpower the bijuu's sand and defeat it.
No. The third kazekage studied the jinchuuriki of the Shukaku who could use the magnetism abilities. He never defeated the Shukaku nor the jinchuuriki but he used his imagination and started to be able to control iron powder through his studies of the Shukaku's jinchuuriki, who at that time is unknown. Could've been Bunkpuku but yeah. Who knows xd.

Why was Iron Sand so effective? Probably due to its weight when compared to regular sand. It's probably how Sunagakure was able to control and seal the bijuu for so long in its village since the 3rd was able to control it every time it went lose or the jinchuriki lost control.
Was regular sand release used before iron sand? This is not proved anywhere though so i'll ignore that statement >_>. What is known is that the third kazekage was more legendary than Rasa(the fourth) who controlled an even heavier metal, Gold. However, why the third was still more famous is probably because gold is harder to acquire than iron and could thus be gathered in greater quantity and become more deadly. Just a thought though. It's only proven that Rasa compressed the Shukaku's rampage when Gaara was the jinchuuriki. Not the previous one's, so that statement is not provable.




Any other questions or are we ready for some jutsus? :p
 

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
So to recap, it's strong to fire, neutral to wind, weak to lighting, neutral to both earth and water?

My bad lol, thought it was the 3rd. ~_~
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
So to recap, it's strong to fire, neutral to wind, weak to lighting, neutral to both earth and water?

My bad lol, thought it was the 3rd. ~_~

Neutral to everything.

It's alright xd. Are you ready for jutsus? >_>
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
Kewl.

First off the most basic iron sand jutsu. I will allow you to train in an RP fashion with Sasori for this training btw if you want that is or if you want to stay formal. Now then for the jutsus i want you to give me a pro and a con for the technique and i want you to tell me atleast two scenarios you can use the jutsu in an effective way. Use your imagination :).

(Jiton: Satetsu No Jutsu) - Magnetism Release: Iron Sand Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user creates small weapons and defenses out of iron sand. The sand can be released from sand in the users possession or from the ground nearby
 

Lance..

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 27, 2014
Messages
13,222
Reaction score
24
Sasori summons the 3rd Kazekage Puppet leaving a small smoke cloud which begins to disappear quickly. As the smoke clears, the sound of iron sand creeping out the small crevices of the puppet fill the area and quickly starts to float around the Kazekage in an unnatural manner. Sasori has the kazekage use his chakra to shape manipulate the sand into a large katana and begins to swing at the imaginary foes in front of them.

It's a very basic technique, pro is it allows you to create virtually any small weapon or defense out of the sand. Only negative thing about this is it's rank, I don't see it doing any defending against the techniques RPers use in the arena or NW. xD

The basic way to use this technique would be to create projectiles that can be thrown towards your opponent, another way could be creating a pillar or something to lift yourself into the air, or use the sand to propel you in a certain direction if you need to dodge a technique.
 

Silico

Banned
Legendary
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
14,626
Reaction score
1,665
Skozu sees her trainee summon the puppet of the beloved third kazekage of the iron sand. She'd put on a disturbed face while looking at the puppet. Oh well, one way to harness his power. Can never be the true user of the release though.. She smirked and clapped her hands together and sat herself down with her legs crossed, wearing her jacket of iron sand. Her grey hair was touched by the dusts of iron sand used in her outfit and it swirled around her face with her beaming orange eyes focusing on Sasori, rather than the puppet.

Bla bla bla about the technique i don't give a damn. Perform it.

Skozu then closed her eyes and placed her hands on her knees. Ready to feel the dust of iron sand from the puppet swirl across the terrain.
 
Top