Interview Nippon.com with Kishimoto Masashi (eng translation)

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On November 10, 2014, the manga series Naruto ended its 15-year run in the weekly Shōnen Jump.

We spoke with Kishimoto Masashi, author of this work beloved in Japan and around the world, about his thoughts on the series and what lies ahead for him as an artist.

A Final Battle Set from the Start

Naruto is an exceptionally long-lived manga series.
Its serialization began in 1999, when creator Kishimoto Masashi was just 25 years old. In the 15 years that have elapsed since then, Kishimoto has created an entire life for his protagonist—Uzumaki Naruto, a student at a ninja academy whose mediocrity in his studies belies his deep inner capabilities.

“When I first created Naruto,” says the veteran artist, “I was just setting out myself to become a mangaka, and I projected my own fierce desire to be recognized by those around me on my character.”

At the time, of course, there was no way of knowing that this character would gain incredible recognition around the world over his decade-and-a-half-long run.

“With a magazine like Shōnen Jump,” explains Kishimoto, “you produce three issues’ worth of your material that’s up for consideration, and the editors decide whether to publish you based on that.
If you make it past that stage, you’ve got about two months until your series kicks off in the magazine.”
While this is the answer every manga creator hopes to hear, in general, it means only that an order has been placed for a short story arc.
“The writer doesn’t have much time to prepare for those weekly deliveries and really polish the work. Usually, you don’t need much more than one or two full-length bound volumes worth of material.”

“When I first met the editors,” he continues, “I only knew one thing about my manga: that I wanted Naruto and Sasuke [his rival since childhood] to end the work with a climactic confrontation.”



Battles and Beasts on a Grand Scale

Naruto wrapped up with its 699th and 700th written installments, carried back-to-back in the issue of Shōnen Jump that went on sale on November 10.
The story Kishimoto has told over the past 15 years has been an epic one.

Naruto is set in the world of the “Five Great Shinobi Nations.” Uzumaki Naruto hails from Hi no Kuni, the “Land of Fire”—one of the five nations named for classical elements.
Each of these nations has “hidden villages,” settlements home to schools for ninja, where they master the mystical powers that they wield in battle.
Naruto is a student at the academy in the settlement of Konohagakure, where he dreams of one day becoming the hokage, the master ninja who leads and defends the village. He is not a particularly dedicated student, though, failing his graduation exam numerous times before finally making it to the lowest genin ninja rank.
Placed in a ninja team headed by the elite warrior Hatake Kakashi, alongside his rival and eventual enemy Uchiha Sasuke and his love interest Haruno Sakura, Naruto sets out on the long and hard path to maturity.

Kishimoto at one of his two desks—this one where he does his pen coloring. Behind him is a bank of six desks where his assistants do their work.

When summed up like this, it comes across as a fairly standard bildungsroman.
But the sheer number of characters that appear over the story arc, their strongly individual characters, and the vibrant range of ninjutsu techniques they display in their battles make this a tale that gains complexity and depth as the episodes pile up.

Naruto himself has a dark secret: the presence within him of a powerful, monstrous nine-tailed fox, whose essence was sealed within him by his father—who lost his life in the process—when Naruto was just an infant.
The five nations of this world once sought to control these giant beasts as a way to gain military supremacy, but they have now come to rest in human vessels scattered throughout the lands, producing an uneasy balance of power.

“The entire story of these tailed beasts started out as a simple way for me to get the fox into my manga,” says Kishimoto.
“I loved Godzilla. I just wanted to draw a monster—something big that I could place in a battle.
That’s why I decided to introduce the kuchiyose no jutsu, the summoning skills that let ninja call forth the weapons they need, or call a creature to their side to aid them in a fight.
My intent from the start was to bring forth gigantic beings with these skills.”

A World Richly Populated with Characters

Kishimoto Masashi: Born in Okayama Prefecture in 1974.
Won the Hop Step Award for his debut work, Karakuri, in 1995.
The first single-issue Naruto work appeared in Akamaru Jump in 1997.
Two years later, in 1999, the series Naruto began. It would run for 700 installments, finishing up in the late fall of 2014, just after his fortieth birthday.

Over the 15-year run that Naruto enjoyed, its creator constantly worked to bring new depth to its pages.
What did Kishimoto have in mind as he breathed life into the countless characters in the series?

“Once I feel I’ve written everything there is to write about a character, my approach is to make that one vanish from the story, never to come back.
But that’s just an ideal.
As I wrote Naruto, I found myself really caring for the characters I created, and I wanted to bring even more detail to their lives on the page.
I’m afraid I tended to write even parts that the story didn’t require with great care—which was one factor making the series last as long as it did.”

Kishimoto notes that this approach impacted his weekly work schedule, as he constantly spent more time than expected to infuse the characters with realism and natural emotion.

And this was a process he repeated too many times to count.
When asked how many characters he wrote for the Naruto universe, he pauses and then laughs: “You know, I have no idea at all.”
Some of the characters that have resonated most with him, in addition to the obvious picks of Naruto and Sasuke, are Haku (a fair-faced young ninja who has gone rogue and left his homeland behind) and Jiraiya, an acclaimed warrior who takes on Naruto as his final student.

“You might describe Haku as a guide to Naruto, who inspired him when it came time to select his nindō, or the personal belief that forms the basis for his life as a ninja.
Jiraiya, meanwhile, despite being a master to Naruto, was a terrible ninja, ignoring the ‘three prohibitions’ against drinking, womanizing, and pursuing money.
He’s one character who remains very vivid in my mind.”


The Blond-Haired, Blue-Eyed Ninja

So why ninja in the first place? Kishimoto notes the inspiration of Sasuke, an anime series based on the manga created by Shirato Sanpei.
But what really inspired him as a manga artist, he says, was Toriyama Akira’s Dragon Ball. In any case, he says, he had little desire at the beginning to create a story that fit some standard “ninja manga” mold.

“I had a sort of defiant attitude from the outset—this idea that there was no need for a Japanese writer to do a story on something so Japanese as the ninja.
I mean, look at my protagonist: he’s got blond hair and blue eyes.
Sure, shinobi means the art of stealth, but I never thought this was a reason to cloak my main character in shadow.
He wears an orange outfit, behaves flamboyantly, steps forward and proclaims his name.
I wanted to create a ‘pop’ manga that turned standard concepts of ninja on their heads.


This approach has paid off in tremendous popularity for Naruto in Western markets.
The manga have been translated and sold in more than 30 countries worldwide.
In France, Naruto sits perennially atop the comic popularity rankings.

All of this has come as a surprise to the creator.

“Early on, I joked that I’d like to see Naruto make it big overseas.
But I never expected that foreign readers would get into it like they have.
It was only after the work entered serialization that I realized how attractive the ninja concept was to the global audience.”

Part of the appeal of Naruto, though, lies in the way it goes beyond a simple ninja comic to reveal a sweeping fantasy universe like those created by beloved works of Western fantasy literature.
Many fans, both in Japan and abroad, have seen parallels between Kishimoto’s creation and the Harry Potter tales by the British author J. K. Rowling.

Kishimoto states that any such parallels were entirely accidental.
“I’ve never even read the Harry Potter books.
When I started getting fan mail that said my character reminded them of Harry, though, I started to wonder, and I had a look at the first movie in the series.
Then it made sense.
You’ve got Harry, Ron, and Hermione, learning together at an academy for magic. This was somewhat like Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura in my work.”

Saving Romance for the Big Screen

Looking back on 15 years of nonstop Naruto, what does Kishimoto see as the central themes he hoped to deliver to his readers?

During his manga’s 15-year run Kishimoto became a father. In the comic’s final installment, Naruto, too, has two children of his own.

“Well, every reader is going to approach the work in a different way, so as its creator, I don’t really want to push a certain idea on them.
But if I had to say, I guess it would be the way in which Naruto started out with no respect from those around him and grew into the sort of man who earned that respect from his friends.
In the end, this character was one who, deep down, had qualities deserving of recognition.
Rather than describing the story arc as the way he changed, it might be better to say that his surroundings changed as he grew.
Those who started out not wanting to admit his worth respected and honored him by the end.”

Episodes 1 through 699 of Naruto cover the span of the main character’s life “from age 12 to 17 or so,” says Kishimoto.
But in episode 700, the last one, we leap ahead in time. Naruto and Sasuke are both fathers with families of their own.

The events of the intervening years are covered in The Last: Naruto the Movie, a full-length animated feature that hit Japanese theaters on December 6, 2014.
Kishimoto himself signed on for a supervisory role in this film’s production.

“I didn’t originally intend for there to be a movie about these years in Naruto’s life.
But when we got the proposal and I saw a draft script for it, it was great.
It was a movie I wanted to see, which meant that my readers would want to see it as well, I thought.
I’ve never been the sort of artist to draw romance into my work, but this movie was a chance to include just those things that I never included in Naruto as a manga.”



Preparing for the Next Career Stage

Kishimoto Masashi turned 40 on November 8, 2014, just as he put the finishing touches on his 15-year series.

At this double milestone in his life, he looks back and says: “Ten years have passed since I got married, but my wife and I have yet to go on a honeymoon. I’d like to go travel somewhere for a while now.”
While he intends to treat this as a well-earned vacation, it sounds like it may not last for long.
“ I have no interest in jumping right into a new series right away, but I do think that living a life without deadlines is going to make me fidget.”

Next up on Kishimoto’s work calendar is a special, limited Naruto series that will run in the Shōnen Jump weekly in the spring of 2015.
The deeply populated universe he has created seems to offer plenty of characters and storylines to mine for this sort of additional material.
But the author is more interested in striking out in entirely new directions.

“Even while on vacation, I won’t be entirely idle.
I carry notebooks with me and I’m always writing down ideas in them.
I want to keep writing.
Once I’m ready to go—once I’ve decided to write something new—I’ll get up to full speed right away, I think.
I haven’t lost my passion as a mangaka.”

(Based on a November 17, 2014, interview in Japanese. Interview photos © Yamada Shinji.)
 
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I don't think he can move on from Naruto. Like how can you top Naruto. He better be thinking of something good.
 

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Bless kishi he never Knew rowling .. Good to know how Haku became important factor in shaping Naruto's Ninja way . I think it really sums up his honesty about flaws and perfection in his manga .
 

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"But when we got the proposal and I saw a draft script for it, it was great.
It was a movie I wanted to see
, which meant that my readers would want to see it as well, I thought.
I’ve never been the sort of artist to draw romance into my work, but this movie was a chance to include just those things that I never included in Naruto as a manga.


Translation:

- Nobody forced Kishimoto the movie and NH, HE wanted to see the movie.
- Admitted that none of those "shipping moments" in the manga were romantic (including all NaruSaku, all SasuSaku, all NaruHina and all SasuKarin "moments").
- Admitted that he is stupid for writting romance.
- Admitted that he liked the movie.
- Admitted that he just wanted to make the shippingers's dream come true by giving them a romance movie.

So nothing new, just the same crap.
 

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I guess he basically has nothing new to state. The interviewer adding "Sasuke's love interest" and what not was rather pointless and self-contrived. I also dislike that statement of his every time I read it that how he had little to go by other than some sketchy ideas. The hallmarks of a poor writer.

But, I hope he learned something from Naruto and I wish him luck on his future endeavours. We all improve if we learn from our mistakes.
 

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I don't think he can move on from Naruto. Like how can you top Naruto. He better be thinking of something good.

@bold really? There are many fictional works above Naruto.

OT: thanks for sharing.
 

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"But when we got the proposal and I saw a draft script for it, it was great.
It was a movie I wanted to see
, which meant that my readers would want to see it as well, I thought.
I’ve never been the sort of artist to draw romance into my work, but this movie was a chance to include just those things that I never included in Naruto as a manga.


Translation:

- Nobody forced Kishimoto the movie and NH, HE wanted to see the movie.
- Admitted that none of those "shipping moments" in the manga were romantic (including all NaruSaku, all SasuSaku, all NaruHina and all SasuKarin "moments").
- Admitted that he is stupid for writting romance.
- Admitted that he liked the movie.
- Admitted that he just wanted to make the shippingers's dream come true by giving them a romance movie.

So nothing new, just the same crap.

Including your hate. Still fired up over pairings?

@OP:
'Liked the interview. It was a nice read.

Bless kishi he never Knew rowling .. Good to know how Haku became important factor in shaping Naruto's Ninja way . I think it really sums up his honesty about flaws and perfection in his manga .

He might as well have taken a break and read it. Maybe he could get some ideas how to write a good female character. :p

I guess he basically has nothing new to state. The interviewer adding "Sasuke's love interest" and what not was rather pointless and self-contrived. I also dislike that statement of his every time I read it that how he had little to go by other than some sketchy ideas. The hallmarks of a poor writer.

But, I hope he learned something from Naruto and I wish him luck on his future endeavours. We all improve if we learn from our mistakes.

Most of the long series go like that. They have an idea of a beginning, a middle and an ending and then start creating it. When they don't even know if the idea would be accepted or not or how long it will be allowed, to run none can plan everything out.

If not published they can go back and edit, re-edit and plan out more. Or you get a series of short stories, lose plot lines, self content small arcs only loosely strung along and much less rigid verse where you can expand on it any time. Isn't it?

Or do you have some specific example where the writer wrote some decade long series of a single character's story without any hitch, retcons etc?

But yeah I sure hope that if he is writing again, this time around he can improve on mistakes last time- nothing is more glaring that his indecisiveness whether he wanted a heroine or not.

@bold really? There are many fictional works above Naruto.

OT: thanks for sharing.

Depends on what you are comparing it with. It was published for 15 long years continuously and some 2-3 years before the working on different ideas for it. So while he may write (one can hope:p) something better from artistic or literary POV, it won't be as big as Naruto.
 

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Hope he learned to never write romance or imply romantic connotations again. He's horrible at it and it's cancerous to fandoms.
 

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Most of the long series go like that. They have an idea of a beginning, a middle and an ending and then start creating it. When they don't even know if the idea would be accepted or not or how long it will be allowed, to run none can plan everything out.

If not published they can go back and edit, re-edit and plan out more. Or you get a series of short stories, lose plot lines, self content small arcs only loosely strung along and much less rigid verse where you can expand on it any time. Isn't it?

Or do you have some specific example where the writer wrote some decade long series of a single character's story without any hitch, retcons etc?

But yeah I sure hope that ifm he is writing again, this time around he cant improve on mistakes last time- nothing is more glaring that his indecisiveness whether he wanted a heroine or not.

A work should never be stretched in this manner. An idea can only go so far. In Victorian era, authors used to get the chapters of their stories published in magazines. Unless they didn't have a proper structure in mind, they never could have succeeded in those ventures. Not to mention the Epics of Milton or Pope. Without a good pacing in mind, things spiral out of control with plot holes riddled all over the place like in Naruto.

He should not write female characters, in fact, most writers shouldn't. Stories can construct good role models for women, which most fictions today, utterly fail at. He also lacks the skill to write them. An author should always be aware of his strengths and weaknesses. Jane Austen had a limited scope and couldn't create outdoor imagery, which is why are novels are mostly confined in doors. He should play about his strengths and focus to improve on what he can write, not what he can't.
 

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Depends on what you are comparing it with. It was published for 15 long years continuously and some 2-3 years before the working on different ideas for it. So while he may write (one can hope:p) something better from artistic or literary POV, it won't be as big as Naruto.

He can be better, because there are better literary and artistic (or both) examples. They do not have to be as long to compare to tell which is better or not. People generally get better in time after practice and working. And after all the fame, people will read what he publish anyway.
 

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A work should never be stretched in this manner. An idea can only go so far. In Victorian era, authors used to get the chapters of their stories published in magazines. Unless they didn't have a proper structure in mind, they never could have succeeded in those ventures. Not to mention the Epics of Milton or Pope. Without a good pacing in mind, things spiral out of control with plot holes riddled all over the place like in Naruto.

He should not write female characters, in fact, most writers shouldn't. Stories can construct good role models for women, which most fictions today, utterly fail at. He also lacks the skill to write them. An author should always be aware of his strengths and weaknesses. Jane Austen had a limited scope and couldn't create outdoor imagery, which is why are novels are mostly confined in doors. He should play about his strengths and focus to improve on what he can write, not what he can't.
Don't compare a manga to authors in the Victorian era
What kind of shit is that
 

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A work should never be stretched in this manner. An idea can only go so far. In Victorian era, authors used to get the chapters of their stories published in magazines. Unless they didn't have a proper structure in mind, they never could have succeeded in those ventures. Not to mention the Epics of Milton or Pope. Without a good pacing in mind, things spiral out of control with plot holes riddled all over the place like in Naruto.

He should not write female characters, in fact, most writers shouldn't. Stories can construct good role models for women, which most fictions today, utterly fail at. He also lacks the skill to write them. An author should always be aware of his strengths and weaknesses. Jane Austen had a limited scope and couldn't create outdoor imagery, which is why are novels are mostly confined in doors. He should play about his strengths and focus to improve on what he can write, not what he can't.

Oh my ... lol Do you really compare a manga with epics of Milton ! and Victorian era...You flatter Kishi too much if you are comparing his writing with those guys.

I like Jane Austen.. But her books are not just devoid of outdoor imagery, all 4-5 books are more or less on the same topic and very limited scope...Why mention her?

Kishi is an artist- He draws. We should make the comparison with the same medium ..shouldn't we? And when and where they are publishing and what are their requirements.

Good role model for women- One shouldn't be looking for them in shonnen that much anyway.

He can be better, because there are better literary and artistic (or both) examples. They do not have to be as long to compare to tell which is better or not. People generally get better in time after practice and working. And after all the fame, people will read what he publish anyway.

Anyone can be better and yea but that's why I said it depends exactly what you are comparing it to.
 
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Wow. So he knew he wanted Sasuke vs Naruto from the very beginning yet their fight seemed so forced and contrived it was ridiculous. Why not carefully craft the lead up to the fight instead of shoe- horning it in the end?

All those chapters wasted on Kaguya. I just don't get this guy. SMDH.....I will never read another 1 of his works.
 

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Don't compare a manga to authors in the Victorian era
What kind of shit is that

It's classified by many as Literature. Should I compare it to other piles of shit?

Oh my ... lol Do you really compare a manga with epics of Milton ! and Victorian era...You flatter Kishi too much if you are comparing his writing with those guys.

I like Jane Austen.. But her books are not just devoid of outdoor imagery, all 4-5 books are more or less on the same topic and very limited scope...Why mention her?

Kishi is an artist- He draws. We should make the comparison with the same medium ..shouldn't we? And when and where they are publishing and what are their requirements.

Good role model for women- One shouldn't be looking for them in shonnen that much anyway.

It isn't a comparison, it's an analogy. Any work of literature can be compared with another. My bar is higher than most. My point was on the compact structure of these pieces. If they can manage such complex stories, then it shouldn't be any problem for an author to manage a below average piece of work. In fact, it should be easily manageable. IF he couldn't manage this work effectively, then it shows his faults as a writer.

My analogy was so simple. I said that her strengths lay with indoor imagery. She played upon those strengths. I don't like Jane Austen at all, but the point here was what an author can work with. Kishimoto's weakness is female characterization, therefore, he shouldn't create main female characters. Granted Sakura is still a side character given literary mechanics, but she is on the forefront compared to all others.

He should stick to male characters as he has produced few good characters in this regard. Female side characters with little impact on the plot will suit his stories. He cannot write female characters, just like Jane couldn't pen outdoor imagery.

He also pens the story. Both of these are primary requirements for a Manga. If someone else penned his story like in Death Note's case - another mess - then we wouldn't be talking about Kishimoto's short-comings, now would we?

That is your opinion. People pick out different things from different sources. It all depends upon what people like. Penning a good character and sending a message through that metaphor is an author's responsibility.
 

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"But when we got the proposal and I saw a draft script for it, it was great.
It was a movie I wanted to see
, which meant that my readers would want to see it as well, I thought.
I’ve never been the sort of artist to draw romance into my work, but this movie was a chance to include just those things that I never included in Naruto as a manga.


Translation:

- Nobody forced Kishimoto the movie and NH, HE wanted to see the movie.
- Admitted that none of those "shipping moments" in the manga were romantic (including all NaruSaku, all SasuSaku, all NaruHina and all SasuKarin "moments").
- Admitted that he is stupid for writting romance.
- Admitted that he liked the movie.
- Admitted that he just wanted to make the shippingers's dream come true by giving them a romance movie.

So nothing new, just the same crap.

Kishi is the first naruhina shipper, time to accept it Lol

and he like Godzilla, i love this man :cool:
 

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It's classified by many as Literature. Should I compare it to other piles of shit?


It isn't a comparison, it's an analogy. Any work of literature can be compared with another. My bar is higher than most. My point was on the compact structure of these pieces. If they can manage such complex stories, then it shouldn't be any problem for an author to manage a below average piece of work. In fact, it should be easily manageable. IF he couldn't manage this work effectively, then it shows his faults as a writer.

My analogy was so simple. I said that her strengths lay with indoor imagery. She played upon those strengths. I don't like Jane Austen at all, but the point here was what an author can work with. Kishimoto's weakness is female characterization, therefore, he shouldn't create main female characters. Granted Sakura is still a side character given literary mechanics, but she is on the forefront compared to all others.

He should stick to male characters as he has produced few good characters in this regard. Female side characters with little impact on the plot will suit his stories. He cannot write female characters, just like Jane couldn't pen outdoor imagery.

He also pens the story. Both of these are primary requirements for a Manga. If someone else penned his story like in Death Note's case - another mess - then we wouldn't be talking about Kishimoto's short-comings, now would we?

That is your opinion. People pick out different things from different sources. It all depends upon what people like. Penning a good character and sending a message through that metaphor is an author's responsibility.

Lmao. Either you are trolling or that's one pretentious post.

The classical literature you seem to be so fond of is ridden with female stereotypes. Duma's treatment of the females is worse than Kishi. D'Artagnan is the lead and the guy is having an affair with a married woman and at the same time practically raping another one(seducing under false name and cover of darkness). The three musketeers couldn't be more hypocrite. It didn't stop him from writing women or making money of that "literature" and or his character being popular.

It's somewhat funny when I see people getting this angry over Sakura marrying Sasuke. The paper-bag-princess is one lovely story for kids but one may be surprised how many dislike it and call her 'mean; because the princess rejected the prince in the end. It's an interesting world we live in.

Anyway I don't expect mangas to cover all the literary bases anymore than I expect McDonalds to serve seven course French cuisine just because one of the items may be labelled as "French Fries" .
 
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Summary: All the Part 1 fanatics hat whined about it being "DBZ" style aren't liking what the manga was meant to be.
 

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Lmao. Either you are trolling or that's one pretentious post.

The classical literature you seem to be so fond of is ridden with female stereotypes. Duma's treatment of the females is worse than Kishi. D'Artagnan is the lead and the guy is having an affair with a married woman and at the same time practically raping another one(seducing under false name and cover of darkness). The three musketeers couldn't be more hypocrite. It didn't stop him from writing women or making money of that "literature" and or his character being popular.

It's somewhat funny when I see people getting this angry over Sakura marrying Sasuke. The paper-bag-princess is one lovely story for kids but one may be surprised how many dislike it and call her 'mean; because the princess rejected the prince in the end. It's an interesting world we live in.

Anyway I don't expect mangas to cover all the literary bases anymore than I expect McDonalds to serve seven course French cuisine just because one of the items may be labelled as "French Fries" .

Why am I trolling? Your point doesn't even make any sense.

Still much better pieces of literature that Kishimoto can never even dream of touching. I haven't read from Duma, so I wouldn't know. But let's not sling dirt at Three Musketeers because you love to lean on Kishimoto a lot. Sure, those are anti-feministic pieces, but so what? An over-whelming majority of women didn't belong to any other estate other than wives and clergy anyway, so I don't see your point. Their limited scope within society reduced them to this. If you want to put blame on someone, blame women.

Paper-bag princess? Never heard of it.

This manga already has covered all major literary devices. There is no such thing as literary bases. Either a work is fiction or it is non-fiction. In case of the former, it has certain genre conventions. That is all.

P.s: Are you talking about Alexandre Dumas and the entirety of his works? I don't even ... :|
 
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