Intelligence: Sakura ≥ Shikamaru (using feats).

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I think she is impressive, her feats are, but she is not better than Shikamaru when it comes to tactics in battle, specially in team strategies and coordination.
 

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Her and there was another. Pretty sure SMD or something made that account. That or kages or that dr guy made it. Either way it was a some no life guy, who would every single morning at nearly the same time, post a wake up topic about sakura, her features, things she dreamed about, breakfast, and sakura/naruto related stuff that would cause flame wars. All these people are probably long gone. People I remember(but doesn't mean I particularly liked them).

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Tsuchi/Ira/Jean something now.
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Badoera (she made predictions on lives after naruto)
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Shikamaru has the highest IQ and his new bio states he is the most intelligent person in Konohagakure, and people are trying to prove that someone is smarter than Shikamaru?

My God the reach...
 

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As stated by Ino

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Plans a clever distraction to bring out the Shadow Posession Technique

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The shadow coming from his location which was intelligent

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His intelligence level of thinking in that type of situation is amazing. He never wavers

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Him analyzing it

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and then with his observation that's when he gets her

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His intelligence surpasses Kakashi whereas Sakura has never commanded Kakashi to do anything

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How he gets Hidan was pretty impressive, by already booby trapping the place and then luring Hidan to the same area. Mad Genius

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Then of course there is the whole War Arc in which he commads. Sakura's intelligence level will never surpass that of Shikamaru's which is why he is the advisor to the Hokage and not Sakura. :yeah::cool:
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I'm willing to give you that Shikamaru is an excellent tactician and strategist.

And he winsnthose categories by feats but when it comes to varitymor diveristy as I said originally, Sakura wins.

As said by Sasuke..

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Sakura figures out that they are being deceived.

She knew they were being decided byna genjutsu when it was initially activated.

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Sakura explains in depth chakra control.

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Sakura notices the explosive on the squirrels back.

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She also cleverly set traps that could be triggered by herself to attack the opponent, and even use obvious traps as decoys to lead opponents into others.

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Sakura cleverly play dead to get close enough to Sasori's pupet to land a hit.

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She also persicsly on the low applied her antidote at the correct time to evade Sasori's poisons effect.

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Memorizing hand and strings movement pattern in order to foresight Sasori's attacks, only with observation. This is similar feat that Shikamaru had in Part 1, against Tayuya. When he figured out Tayuya's hands moves when she played the flute. But, in my opinion reading a master puppeteer moves is quite more complex than that.

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Countering Sasori's poison speaks for itself.

Periodic table on deck!

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Those are just a few.. Now as I said before I'm willing to say Shikamaru is a better technician and strategist but Sakura is overall smarter.

Genetic, Complex reasoning, toxicology, anatomy, physiology, deception, observation, book Intelligence and couple that medical Intelligence as well she soars!!

I think she is impressive, her feats are, but she is not better than Shikamaru when it comes to tactics in battle, specially in team strategies and coordination.
But Intelligence isn't limited to those two things.

As I said before he is an excellent strategist and has good reasoning skills but Sakura isn't too far behind (equal too).
 
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But Intelligence isn't limited to those two things.

As I said before he is an excellent strategist and has good reasoning skills but Sakura isn't too far behind (equal too).
Absolutely... he has the potential though, Asuma stated he has an IQ over 200, but may be he is just too lazy to exploit it to its limits...
 
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Admittedly, most of Shikamaru's reported intelligence is hype. It's like Kishi and SP have to remind us that Shikamaru is the smart one.

Kabuto, Oro, Danzo, Kakashi, Karin, Shino, Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen etc all have high intellect and they demonstrate it by what they do, and the jutsus they learn.
Shikamaru lead Kakashi when they took down Hidan and Kakuzu. Featwise and hypewise he had him beat. He was thinking like 12 steps ahead.

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I'd love to see Kakashi play second fiddle to Sakura. The fact the someone like Kakashi took a step back from the lead spot alone is a feat Sakura can't replicate. That entire arc Shikamaru was displaying a level of tactics and overall intelligence Sakura can't reach.
 
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Shikamaru has the highest IQ and his new bio states he is the most intelligent person in Konohagakure, and people are trying to prove that someone is smarter than Shikamaru?

My God the reach...
Yes the reach in you is high. Don't get me started

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Her feats are great but she isn't smarter
 

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Here we go, finally a real post to talk too..

I'm willing to give you that Shikamaru is an excellent tactician and strategist.

And he winsnthose categories by feats but when it comes to varitymor diveristy as I said originally, Sakura wins.

As said by Sasuke..

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Sakura figures out that they are being deceived.

She knew they were being decided byna genjutsu when it was initially activated.

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Sakura explains in depth chakra control.

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Sakura notices the explosive on the squirrels back.

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She also cleverly set traps that could be triggered by herself to attack the opponent, and even use obvious traps as decoys to lead opponents into others.

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Sakura cleverly play dead to get close enough to Sasori's pupet to land a hit.

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She also persicsly on the low applied her antidote at the correct time to evade Sasori's poisons effect.

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Memorizing hand and strings movement pattern in order to foresight Sasori's attacks, only with observation. This is similar feat that Shikamaru had in Part 1, against Tayuya. When he figured out Tayuya's hands moves when she played the flute. But, in my opinion reading a master puppeteer moves is quite more complex than that.

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Countering Sasori's poison speaks for itself.

Periodic table on deck!

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Those are just a few.. Now as I said before I'm willing to say Shikamaru is a better technician and strategist but Sakura is overall smarter.

Genetic, Complex reasoning, toxicology, anatomy, physiology, deception, observation, book Intelligence and couple that medical Intelligence as well she soars!!



But Intelligence isn't limited to those two things.

As I said before he is an excellent strategist and has good reasoning skills but Sakura isn't too far behind (equal too).
This should be fun

Here we go, finally a real post to talk too..

I'm willing to give you that Shikamaru is an excellent tactician and strategist.

And he winsnthose categories by feats but when it comes to varitymor diveristy as I said originally, Sakura wins.

As said by Sasuke..

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Thats a feat now ?

Listening in the academy =/= feat .

Just because Naruto was clearly behind and didn't listen in class doesn't make sakura a Genius .

Sakura notices the explosive on the squirrels back.

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She does ? Ill let Dosu answer that for you .


Sakura cleverly play dead to get close enough to Sasori's pupet to land a hit.

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This is the Feat you included that supposedly puts her above Shikamaru . Playing Dead ? If she was as good as you claim she should have been able to surmise a better strategy . Shikamaru was in a much more pressed situation aswell . Hidan was immortal and more durable + faster and stronger . And it would be 1 hit kill .


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She also cleverly set traps that could be triggered by herself to attack the opponent, and even use obvious traps as decoys to lead opponents into others.
Not impressive , as shikamaru was shown to do this , and better . Against a smarter opponent .

Memorizing hand and strings movement pattern in order to foresight Sasori's attacks, only with observation. This is similar feat that Shikamaru had in Part 1, against Tayuya. When he figured out Tayuya's hands moves when she played the flute. But, in my opinion reading a master puppeteer moves is quite more complex than that.

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String Movements ??? Where does it say that .

What i surmised from that scan :

Hey Rasta if im pointing my and moving my arm towards the left with a bat , where do you think the ball will end up ?

None of these feats even compare to Shikamaru . They are quite frankly average/academy taught/survival moves . The only noteworthy feat you posted was her being able to counteract sasori poison .
 
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Orchestrates a sure kill ambush.
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Figures out the secret behind Hidan's ritual. Asuma someone who is really smart himself had no idea.
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Thinks of 200 different possible moves in an instant
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Just from looking at his weapon he was able to deduce his fighting style.
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Kakuzu a veteran and highly intelligent himself gives him praise
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Kakashi was a late addition to the group and he had already altered all his tactics from this. Kakashi himself is amazed.
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Another successful ambush. He manages to get rid of Hidan's range with this first attack, making him much easier to deal with than last time.
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Made them look like fools
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Applying his shogi tactics to S rank ninjas.
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Kakuzu breaking down Shikamarus ambush which was a complex step by step process.
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Shikamaru accounted for one of them breaking out of it (especially Kakuzu since he wasn't aware of his abilities) You
can tell thats why he had Chouji waiting there. This is showing he's thinking many steps ahead.
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This is probably the most impressive one.
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And it shows just how far he's thinking ahead, no one in this entire show has a feat entailing this many steps ahead. He had Kakashi use a tube to gather Kakuzu's blood. Most people die when they are struck through the heart, so why would he need to take even extra measures? Because nothing escapes Shikamaru's ability to think ahead, he had this setup because Kakuzu was a ? mark. And he used Hidans own technique against them.

Look how they all are when Kakuzu gets back up and yet Shikamaru still had this in his realm of possibilities.

Manages to capture Hidan again with Shadow . He accounted for Hidan's cocky personality and knew if he went in himself he would be shocked but he didn't just run in like an idiot first he had Hidan in , he even accounted for Hidan which is crazy in itself most people would have been caught by this in midair since you cant control gravity or your shadow but he was already on the IN CASE Hidan did avoid it. You see he leaves no openings in his calculations. He always assumes worst case scenarios and takes into accounts all variables including personality into account.

Has the whole place already set up for .

You were making a big deal out of Sakura faking dead, surpasses that by a long shot especially considering the behind it, this was planned out countless steps ahead, linked to the first Kakashi .

And ofcourse for the finale
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These tactics required thinking countless and countless steps ahead. Accounting for the smallest details down to personality traits and weapon shape. This level of thinking is not something Sakura is capable of not even close, heck in terms of sheer tactics and planning ahead its hard to find someone with better feats than these.
 

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Most Improved .




Thats a feat now ?

Listening in the academy =/= feat .

Just because Naruto was clearly behind and didn't listen in class doesn't make sakura a Genius .

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She does ? Ill let Dosu answer that for you .


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This is the Feat you included that supposedly puts her above Shikamaru . Playing Dead ? If she was as good as you claim she should have been able to surmise a better strategy . Shikamaru was in a much more pressed situation aswell . Hidan was immortal and more durable + faster and stronger . And it would be 1 hit kill .




Not impressive , as shikamaru was shown to do this , and better . Against a smarter opponent .




String Movements ??? Where does it say that .

What i surmised from that scan :

Hey Rasta if im pointing my and moving my arm towards the left with a bat , where do you think the ball will end up ?

None of these feats even compare to Shikamaru . They are quite frankly average/academy taught/survival moves . The only noteworthy feat you posted was her being able to counteract sasori poison .
Are you really posting Sakura playing dead, calling it a feat and comparing it to Shikamaru's? :lol

Get real, Rasta.
Orchestrates a sure kill ambush.
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Figures out the secret behind Hidan's ritual. Asuma someone who is really smart himself had no idea.
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Thinks of 200 different possible moves in an instant
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Just from looking at his weapon he was able to deduce his fighting style.
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Kakuzu a veteran and highly intelligent himself gives him praise
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Kakashi was a late addition to the group and he had already altered all his tactics from this. Kakashi himself is amazed.
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Another successful ambush. He manages to get rid of Hidan's range with this first attack, making him much easier to deal with than last time.
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Made them look like fools
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Applying his shogi tactics to S rank ninjas.
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Kakuzu breaking down Shikamarus ambush which was a complex step by step process.
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Shikamaru accounted for one of them breaking out of it (especially Kakuzu since he wasn't aware of his abilities) You
can tell thats why he had Chouji waiting there. This is showing he's thinking many steps ahead.
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This is probably the most impressive one.
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And it shows just how far he's thinking ahead, no one in this entire show has a feat entailing this many steps ahead. He had Kakashi use a tube to gather Kakuzu's blood. Most people die when they are struck through the heart, so why would he need to take even extra measures? Because nothing escapes Shikamaru's ability to think ahead, he had this setup because Kakuzu was a ? mark. And he used Hidans own technique against them.

Look how they all are when Kakuzu gets back up and yet Shikamaru still had this in his realm of possibilities.

Manages to capture Hidan again with Shadow . He accounted for Hidan's cocky personality and knew if he went in himself he would be shocked but he didn't just run in like an idiot first he had Hidan in , he even accounted for Hidan which is crazy in itself most people would have been caught by this in midair since you cant control gravity or your shadow but he was already on the IN CASE Hidan did avoid it. You see he leaves no openings in his calculations. He always assumes worst case scenarios and takes into accounts all variables including personality into account.

Has the whole place already set up for .

You were making a big deal out of Sakura faking dead, surpasses that by a long shot especially considering the behind it, this was planned out countless steps ahead, linked to the first Kakashi .

And ofcourse for the finale
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These tactics required thinking countless and countless steps ahead. Accounting for the smallest details down to personality traits and weapon shape. This level of thinking is not something Sakura is capable of not even close, heck in terms of sheer tactics and planning ahead its hard to find someone with better feats than these.
Find me when Shikamaru shows a hint of understanding genetics, chemistry, anatomy, physiology, biology and you can down play her most credible feats which include:

> Deducing Tobi's intangibility after seeing it once.
> Neutralizing a metal based toxin (which means she has an intermediate understanding of chemistry).
> Figuring out out Sasori's attack patterns (string movements).
> Puttimg together several different elements instantly which resulted in her figuring the mechanics behind WZ's transformation tech to a tee.

All of those feats require a wealth of knowlage and I haven't even dippped into medical ninjutsu which requires a different particular scholastic skill set.

Sakura is more well rounded.
 

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Find me when Shikamaru shows a hint of understanding genetics, chemistry, anatomy, physiology, biology and you can down play her most credible feats which include:

> Deducing Tobi's intangibility after seeing it once.

> Neutralizing a metal based toxin (which means she has an intermediate understanding of chemistry).
> Figuring out out Sasori's attack patterns (string movements).
> Puttimg together several different elements instantly which resulted in her figuring the mechanics behind WZ's transformation tech to a tee.

All of those feats require a wealth of knowlage and I haven't even dippped into medical ninjutsu which requires a a different particular scholastic skill set.
lol? You're basing her being smart off her medical ninjutsu knowledge. That's like someone studying biology in school and the other kid studying engineering but you call him dumb because his bio knowledge is lacking compared to the person who is studying bio? That's not what being smart is about, lets say Shikamaru cared for medicine and actually studied it, THAN could you compare him to Sakura in that regard. BUT General battle tactics apply to all ninja.

You know you are actually worse than the trolls here like that other Sakura wanker who draws pictures, atleast she's not trying to make a cover up that she's trying to be logical. You act like you're being reasonable and actually providing some logic but really you shut off all logic when something revolves around Sakura.

Don't try to hide behind sounding intellectual, you know where you belong buddy.
 

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Find me when Shikamaru shows a hint of understanding genetics, chemistry, anatomy, physiology, biology and you can down play her most credible feats which include:

> Deducing Tobi's intangibility after seeing it once.
> Neutralizing a metal based toxin (which means she has an intermediate understanding of chemistry).
> Figuring out out Sasori's attack patterns (string movements).
> Puttimg together several different elements instantly which resulted in her figuring the mechanics behind WZ's transformation tech to a tee.

All of those feats require a wealth of knowlage and I haven't even dippped into medical ninjutsu which requires a different particular scholastic skill set.

Sakura is more well rounded.
> Like Kakashi , and basically everyone else ?
> Lol wut ??? I have a basic understanding of chemistry , welp i must be smarter than shikamaru
> Apparently you lack reading comprehension

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She expliccitly states " From the movements of his hand and arm , i can start to tell the direction of the attack .

Lets try this again , if im pointing my bat toward the left , and swing my hands toward the left , where will the baseball end up ?

> ??

Ok, lets play your game .

*Snotty Voice* I haven't even divulged in Shikamarus strategic war planning , secret nara tech knowledge , Astronomy knowledge, Human Emotion , or problem solving .

Sakura being an expert in Medical Ninjutsu cant compare to Shikamaru who has never even studied it . Since he has an IQ of 200 tho i am sure he would be able to catch on quicker . :Sparks:
 

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> Like Kakashi , and basically everyone else ?
> Lol wut ??? I have a basic understanding of chemistry , welp i must be smarter than shikamaru
> Apparently you lack reading comprehension

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She expliccitly states " From the movements of his hand and arm , i can start to tell the direction of the attack .

Lets try this again , if im pointing my bat toward the left , and swing my hands toward the left , where will the baseball end up ?

> ??

Ok, lets play your game .

*Snotty Voice* I haven't even divulged in Shikamarus strategic war planning , secret nara tech knowledge , Astronomy knowledge, Human Emotion , or problem solving .

Sakura being an expert in Medical Ninjutsu cant compare to Shikamaru who has never even studied it . Since he has an IQ of 200 tho i am sure he would be able to catch on quicker . :Sparks:
When it comes to puppets in NV, that logic cannot be applied on hand and arm movements, it's not that predictable...
 
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