Intelligence has a great place in this manga

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Ok i make this thread cuz i've notice that people think in NB that if you don't have overpowered jutsu, you're weak. That's why i think skillfull ninjas like Shikamaru, Minato, Itachi, or Kakashi are sometimes underrated(even if i agree that they are also sometimes overrated). Even if they don't have overpowered jutsus, their smartness, skillfullness when they fight help them to overcome a problem which seems impossible at the start.

To take an example, i will talk about Minato. He is a normal ninja which greatest jutsu besides shiki fujin, so far we know is rasengan(which is far from the power level of a TBB for example), but cuz he is skillfull, this jutsu you think is nothing could become the fear of all the opponents he meet.

Talking about TBB, if we see someone like Minato, you could ask you, "how could he counter this, he has no jutsu?". But Minato is the type of ninja who uses basic things to do great things. That's how he managed to put a seal infront of him in order to teleport a TBB elsewhere. Does he has a jutsu comparable to TBB? Obviously, no. But like i've said, he used basic things(seals) to do great things(teleport one of the most powerful jutsus in the manga).

Another example is against Tobi. When you fight Tobi, wheter your jutsu is the strongest of all time or not, it's useless if you don't find a good timing to hurt him. That's why, TBB, Susanoo, rasenshuriken, Amaterasu, Shinra tensei, etc..(all these jutsus who are normally stronger than rasengan) is useless. Rasengan itself also is useless. But again cuz Minato is fast, smart enough and skillfull, he found Tobi's weakness in an instant and crushed him with a rasengan thanks to a perfect timing.

Another example is Shikamaru vs Hidan. Hidan had much more power than Shikamaru, but Shikamaru managed to outsmart him thanks to a trap he used earlier before the fight. That's where a skillfull ninja could even beat a much more powerful ninja on the paper. That's where i think intelligence has a great place in NU, but many people forget that.

I only make this thread to help other to notice that if you have enough power you can surely beat a lot of people, but a smart guy could still beat a much more powerful one just by using his head. Obviously head alone won't help in the process. You must also have power with it. That's why i don't say a guy like Shikamaru could beat everybody, no. I don't even think he can beat Akamen alone without preparations or without help, but he is not to underestimate. I know it's pretty difficult to admit that someone is stronger than the other cuz he is more intelligent. That's why smart people are really difficult to discuss about in versus thread, but i believe intelligence has a great place in this manga. :)
 

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Agreed. Intelligence is power.
 
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Great thread :)

Just think about Naruto vs 3rd Raikage. Even Naruto wasnt powerful enough to damage him. But he created a plan and made the 3rd impale himself. :)
 

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Ok Minato and Itachi will never be underrated............ and shikamaru ****in sucks,seeing choji surpassed him.
 

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Yes but it cannot compare to sheer raw, brute power i.e. Naruto vs Shikamaru. But yes, it's very important.
 

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Indeed but sometimes people are just overpowered.
 

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yeah even the 4th raikage said, when talking to shikaku, that it was no wonder the leaf has been so hard to take down.
 

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Kakashi: can warp almost anything into another dm
Minato: can instant teleport/ demon seal
deidara: creates micro mini bombs not seen buy human eyes deteriorate body
Itachi: Amaterasu burns thru anything/ Susanoo......

so dont go complaing about OP jutsu if you top 5 use such jutsu's
 

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Yes but it cannot compare to sheer raw, brute power i.e. Naruto vs Shikamaru. But yes, it's very important.
Of course he can't. If you read all my post, you would have seen that i've said, obviously with intelligence alone you can do nothing. You need also power to accomplish your wishes. I also said that Shikamaru can't beat even a Akamen without preparations and help. The only goal of this topic was to mention that even if intelligence is not the greatest weapon, it's still important in a battle. I say that cuz i think smart ninjas are really underestimated.
 

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Ok Minato and Itachi will never be underrated............ and shikamaru ****in sucks,seeing choji surpassed him.

are you high? is shikamaru sucks so much, then why is he co-leading one of the section? how was he able to take down the akatsuki? why was he a chuunin before everyone else? why was he praised so highly by the 3rd and the 5th hokage??? explain that to me?
 

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Shikamaru is smart but he stil won't be able to beat Sasuke, Itachi and Kakashi well maybe kakashi
 

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The shinobi you named aren't underrated for their intelligence at all, if anything that's a common argument people use in favor of them winning a match-up. This stated the obvious and IMO is useless
 

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people with low brain choose raw power since they cant imagine how could someone beat a much more powerful opponent
 

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Er, no. Intelligence helps, but in part2 currently the type of monsters we are seeing will eat itachi, minato, kakashi, shikamaru alive.

Edo madara is as thick as pig shit and his very arrogant, but because of his sheer power he will overwhelm any of the people above. Tobi is another troll who so far hasnt really fought even after he has the rennigan and its his 6 paths that are keeping 4 kage level at bay. Naruto is high kage, bee is mid kage, kakashi and gai are low kage.

Edo nagato is also another monster. It took 3 kage levels to bring him down.

Hashirama. The mofo had several tailed beasts under his control ffs.

Naruto, where do i start. He still doesnt have enough differentiations in his ninjutsu and even his latest ninjutsu which is tbb is basically another form of rasengan. His genjutsu, well i dont even need to talk about that. His taijutsu skill alone isnt that great apart from when he is in sm where he can use katas, but apart from that is taijutsu itself in base isnt that great. So apart from bm, he has 2 other power mods in km and sm.

Then we have another overpowered mofo in sm kabuto. Apart from edo tensei he has sm, plus enhancements. Although i believe he isnt packing much power because all his enhancements are from relatively average ninja's, his sm, gives him a boosts along with his techniques. Then he has his medical prowess.

Intelligence is needed, but if you look at majority of people's top5 list, youd see that overpowered mofo's make up the list and rightly so.
 
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