Intelligence downplay

[Seventh Sama]

Jokes aside. Kaguya isn't as stupid as alot of people think. The reason why people think she's "dumb" is because she gets tricked by naruto. You're probably thinking "Well yeah, You must be a big idiot to be tricked by another idiot". Which isn't true unless you think neji and kakuzu are idiots. One is a genius and the other has the most battle experience in the manga and both got fooled by naruto (

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Anyways i like to show proof that she has decent intelligence.

Prior to being sealed, She countered naruto and sasuke's previous sealing attempts perfectly (

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In that last scan she also carefully didn't switch to the ice dimension because of sasuke's ama.
That shows decent analyzation.

Since naruto and sasuke got back together after being separated. She pulled them all to the gravity dimension to null their movements so she can kill them. (

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Another reason why people think she's stupid is BZ "tellls" her what to do. Which isn't a bad idea since BZ has far more knowledge and experience than she does so listening to his/its advice is practical. BZ is also her will so yeah she's listening to herself. :lol

She has more intellect feats in the databook. She predicted the uchiha's curse of hatred and had BZ go on to manipulate that hatred. This was all on the spot before getting sealed away.

There's probably some feats i missed but i don't feel like adding anymore.
Well hopefully this changed some people's minds.

 

[HiddenSound]

Kaguya hasn't displayed the most impressive intelligence, and yet Kaguya is one of the smartest characters in the series through Zetsu. Weird how that works.

 

[Hyuuga Monrose]

She was also the Leader of the Ototsuki

 

[Monxstaa]

10/10 xD

 

[lndra]

This is legit

 

[hixa kuogame]

People don't like her because she didn't have a backstory and she didn't talk much, but her powers were epic and her design and entrance was awesome. Plus she's the most powerful being to ever exist.

 

[Melanin]

People don't like her because she didn't have a backstory and she didn't talk much, but her powers were epic and her design and entrance was awesome. Plus she's the most powerful being to ever exist.

I think that was Kishi's biggest mistake, not devolving an in depth back story to accomdate her title as the strongest to live.

 

[Xlad]

She's more the inexperienced type if you ask me.

 

[Seventh Sama]

She's more the inexperienced type if you ask me.

Maybe her being sealed for so long made her rusty? Idk.

 

[Xlad]

Maybe her being sealed for so long made her rusty? Idk.

Pretty much the case. Admittedly, I thought this way a long time ago. But I didn't once I reread the chapters.

 

[Ansatsuken]

People downplay her intelligence because they want her to fight like Madara but for me when Madara became JJ, his battle intelligence lost completely. He never show any battle intelligence just spamming the new jutsu what he knew.

 

[SolarSpider]

Intelligence isn't something that can simply be analyzed. There are many factors that come into play.

Naruto may be called an idiot but he is far smarter at times than other characters, even for just a moment.

 

[SW442]

Intelligence isn't something that can simply be analyzed. There are many factors that come into play.

Naruto may be called an idiot but he is far smarter at times than other characters, even for just a moment.

Naruto can be wise sometimes. it's like Edith in All in the Family. She could be spacey and slow on the uptake, but she had her moments where she had the most wisdom.

But some characters get reps as being stupid for some odd reason. I guess if they don't act liek Shikamaru or Sakura.

I notice alot of fanon always said Kinkaku+Ginkaku were stupid. I am not seeing where that came from. Some act like they're Beavis and Butthead.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

They keep saying she is bainless because they are butthurt since she is female and she can easily defeat their favorite.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

I see a lot of talk about "improvisation" etc but all I see are her using God like techniques to escape trouble several times. That isn't majorly intelligent to me. You see cowardly pokemon doing that sorta shit by closing their eyes and using a random power because of an incoming attack.

I don't remember Kaguya showing that she was nearly as knowledgeable as any main villains like Oro. Maybe that wasn't her fault because everything she knew was from a different time or maybe she just didn't get time to showcase this.

"Oh no. I'm in a bit of a pickle because I'm about to be attacked. I should probably get outta here" isn't an intelligence feat. If there's one type of feat it's not. It's that. It's a reaction feat. Any idiot can tell that getting attacked is a bad thing. It's built into human DNA. Fight or flight instincts. If I dodge a punch does that mean I have God lvl intelligence? Gods are supposed to be all powerful (check) & all knowing. That doesn't cut it. These "intelligence" feats. Where they at tho? :bdpf:

 

[CalamityHeart]

I always figured that Kaguya was so uncanny because she purged most of herself away in fusing herself with the Shinju, sort of like what was happening with Obito when he first began controlling the Juubi. Only, Kaguya never regained her mind, and Black Zetsu, as an extension of herself, was the last shred of coherence and intelligence she had left.

But it's true that she wasn't given any time or justice. It's funny that the only character whose arc wasn't crammed with groan-inducing flashbacks into a time best forgotten, that interrupted the fight we all wanted to see, ended up being a pretty lame character in retrospect.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I see a lot of talk about "improvisation" etc but all I see are her using God like techniques to escape trouble several times. That isn't majorly intelligent to me. You see cowardly pokemon doing that sorta shit by closing their eyes and using a random power because of an incoming attack.

I don't remember Kaguya showing that she was nearly as knowledgeable as any main villains like Oro. Maybe that wasn't her fault because everything she knew was from a different time or maybe she just didn't get time to showcase this.

"Oh no. I'm in a bit of a pickle because I'm about to be attacked. I should probably get outta here" isn't an intelligence feat. If there's one type of feat it's not. It's that. It's a reaction feat. Any idiot can tell that getting attacked is a bad thing. It's built into human DNA. Fight or flight instincts. If I dodge a punch does that mean I have God lvl intelligence? Gods are supposed to be all powerful (check) & all knowing. That doesn't cut it. These "intelligence" feats. Where they at tho? :bdpf:

I mentioned that because she knows what proper dimension to use to counter certain attacks with and not randomly using dimensions like an idiot. Surely that counts for something? BZ is practically kaguya with experience and knowledge so. :bdpf:

I always figured that Kaguya was so uncanny because she purged most of herself away in fusing herself with the Shinju, sort of like what was happening with Obito when he first began controlling the Juubi. Only, Kaguya never regained her mind, and Black Zetsu, as an extension of herself, was the last shred of coherence and intelligence she had left.

But it's true that she wasn't given any time or justice. It's funny that the only character whose arc wasn't crammed with groan-inducing flashbacks into a time best forgotten, that interrupted the fight we all wanted to see, ended up being a pretty lame character in retrospect.

You can't develop a proper villain in less than ten chapters so. :|

 

[Michael]

Jokes aside. Kaguya isn't as stupid as alot of people think. The reason why people think she's "dumb" is because she gets tricked by naruto. You're probably thinking "Well yeah, You must be a big idiot to be tricked by another idiot". Which isn't true unless you think neji and kakuzu are idiots. One is a genius and the other has the most battle experience in the manga and both got fooled by naruto (

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) (

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). Besides naruto can be a clever guy at times.
Anyways i like to show proof that she has decent intelligence.

Prior to being sealed, She countered naruto and sasuke's previous sealing attempts perfectly (

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) (

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)
In that last scan she also carefully didn't switch to the ice dimension because of sasuke's ama.
That shows decent analyzation.

Since naruto and sasuke got back together after being separated. She pulled them all to the gravity dimension to null their movements so she can kill them. (

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) Though she got caught it too. she improvised. (

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)

Another reason why people think she's stupid is BZ "tellls" her what to do. Which isn't a bad idea since BZ has far more knowledge and experience than she does so listening to his/its advice is practical. BZ is also her will so yeah she's listening to herself. :lol

She has more intellect feats in the databook. She predicted the uchiha's curse of hatred and had BZ go on to manipulate that hatred. This was all on the spot before getting sealed away.

There's probably some feats i missed but i don't feel like adding anymore.
Well hopefully this changed some people's minds.

Kaguya hasn't displayed the most impressive intelligence, and yet Kaguya is one of the smartest characters in the series through Zetsu. Weird how that works.

Nice thread! People seem to forget or simply ignore Black Zetsu is Kaguya's actual will incarnate. Who doesn't/wouldn't follow their own will? :sdo:

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

I mentioned that because she knows what proper dimension to use to counter certain attacks with and not randomly using dimensions like an idiot. Surely that counts for something? BZ is practically kaguya with experience and knowledge so. :bdpf:

Not really rocket science. About as complex as knowimg what element is weak to what.

And how did she fare, even with BZ who combined with Kaguya has hundreds of years of xp and knowledge? Every bit of info pre ninja World and post ninja World together and she still got defeated by kids. :bdpf:

Some Einstein alright. Lel

 

[Seventh Sama]

Not really rocket science. About as complex as knowimg what element is weak to what.

And how did she fare, even with BZ who combined with Kaguya has hundreds of years of xp and knowledge? Every bit of info pre ninja World and post ninja World together and she still got defeated by kids. :bdpf:

Some Einstein alright. Lel

Yeah. It took kakashi's plan to defeat her. Even the sage knowledged that without kakashi they wouldn't have won. And we know how smart kakashi is. So cut with the downplay would ya?