Insulting religion doesn't make you smart!!!!!!

[kimb]

Some of these "new-athiests" that insult someone over their religious beliefs don't understand what religion actually stands for at all. I see so many people in the previous thread insulting religious people, taking it word for word it boils my blood and I'm not even religious (so to speak). To clarify, religion is a fictional play that has been re-written countless times over the past 10,000++ years that gives people a set of values and moral guidelines. As we evolved so did our morality and that is why the book get's re-written every couple hundred years or so. The guidelines of the first few books (10,000+ years ago) probably started with "be good to your family", then the next few books they added in neighbour and so on. Even religious people don't take the books literally and the even the ones that claim they do probably only do so because they don't have the words to express what the book truly means and what it means to them. Insulting someone who can't articulate their beliefs in their moral values is very simple but very arrogant. It's like insulting a dog for not being able to talk and feeling smart about it but dogs cannot get personally offended so it makes it even more malevolent.

That's fairly ignorant to say religious people dont take their religions literally. Most theist are indoctrinated into religion from childhood when they're minds are most malleable, and they grow up believing in a God and everything in their religious text in the most literal sense possible. This is how you can have the crusades, where the justification of the death of over million people was Deus vult, this is how you can have witch hunts and the senseless death of thousands of women, this is how you can have suicide bombers willingly give away their only existence in the name of the greater good as commanded by god.

Even today where most religions have relegated holy wars and adapted to modern society, the negative effects of religious dogma permeates through all of society, enforcing religious laws through government, ignoring very serious threats of global climate change, denying themselves and family members access to modern medical care, discriminating against certain demographics, and overall hindering the advancement of humanity as a whole. Religion definitely played an important role in launching humanity out of the stone age and into the middle ages of the 15th century by providing a foundation for a unified society to stand upon, but from then on secular philosophy and human ingenuity drove us out of the middle ages to where we are now.

You're conflating insults with valid criticisms of religion, and the only way you're able defend religion from these criticisms is by ignoring the negative aspects of religion and criticizing those who criticize it, rather than addressing their points.

A world without religion seems like a lawless place. Even more lawless than this world is now that has religion in it. But not by much though.

It doesn't make you smart but it won't stop others.

People bring up Golden state blowing a 3-1 lead and that doesn't make those people any smarter.

A world without religion today would be a better place. If today everyone on planet earth denounced all religions, terrorism in Africa and the middle east would cease, discrimination and persecution of different creeds, sexuality, gender across the globe would cease. Government systems already have laws in place so the world wouldn't be lawless, and countries where religion served as law would be forced to established better government systems.

 

[Guntah]

So if God was disproven 100% many people wouldn't want to raise their kids without religion? How does that make sense? If God was disproven, then there are not too many ways to make people believe in him as it's been disproven. When the children go to school they would be taught the truth like they are taught 3+3=6. I don't see anyone arguing against maths and facts.

Ah, you're acting under the hypothetical scenario I created. That makes more sense.

But really, if it came down to that, lots of people would deny that evidence and the chaos that did start from it would probably take more than one generation to be fixed again. The point being that the damage done would be tremendous, regardless of what is taught to the next generation of people.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Oh it seems we start it again.

 

[kimb]

Ah, you're acting under the hypothetical scenario I created. That makes more sense.

But really, if it came down to that, lots of people would deny that evidence and the chaos that did start from it would probably take more than one generation to be fixed again. The point being that the damage done would be tremendous, regardless of what is taught to the next generation of people.

True, I could see something like that happening. Most religious people lack true virtue and morals, only having the fear of "hell and smite" over their heads, so once hell is gone, their morals go with it. At least then people will have find other reasons to be a good person other than "God told me so".

 

[shelke]

No, it doesn't. Especially since almost every person follows a certain hand-knitted ideology peddled by their social juggernauts. In fact, it's ironically stupid.