1) sakura hitting kaguya from above her when kaguya has the byakugan Allowing for an easy dodge.
2) all of narutos victories involving tnj with the sole exception being his tnj to nagato. Same teacher so i could see them understanding each other but all others were retarded.
3)karin finally using her uzumaki chains at the end because she was worried about sasuke but she somehow couldnt use against bee when sasuke was basically killed twice.
4)Everything that happened to sasukes reasoning and intellect after the pain arc.
I'm sure there are more but these stand out to me.
1.) A Kekei Genkei is the mixture of two chakra natures. Obito's sharingan is aalso mix of two chakra natures. Whe Obito died, he used one of the few techniques that a spirit can use: Kamui (Dan used a different one during the ninja war and Rikudou Senin can time travel, astral-project himself, and cast his own form of Edo-Tensei). His spirit went somewhere and then he Kamui'd back without the body because the spirit is made of chakra. He inserted himself, in chakra form, into Kakshi's body. Kakashi, then, had the two chakra natures that made Obito's Sharingan.
2.) Talk no Jutsu is Naruto's most powerful weapon. Even Obito wanted to learn how it works. It worked on Nagato because Naruto had room to talk. He experienced even deeper pain than Nagato, and while Nagato caused some for Naruto when He killed Jiraiya; Narto never caused Nagato any pain. Nagato's change of heart proves he had integrity, and had not lost his way. This makes sense since this is the lesson he and Mifune taught Hanzo.
3.) The eyes aren't the Kekei Genkei, the mix of chakra natures is. Madara did unlock the double Mangekyou, so he fulfilled the requirement to be abled to use Susano'o with or without his eyes (Though I don't remember anyone actually using it without their eyes, myself)
4.) Oro is a snake. He'll never tell you how he really came across that info. That info is actually useless for Oro anyway. Who would he trust with it in case he got sealed? He wouldn't be abled to use it. And if it weren't for Sasuke (the last person even he would've expected) that info would probably have never surfaced.
5.) Obito became a new host when he merged with swirly Zetsu. Either half, or most of his body now has water and earth chakra combined into the wood nature. Obito is no longer just Sharingan guy. He's Sharingan-Wood guy. Kakashi (aside from being a new host) was very careful with his and didn't even use it (in the years he's had it) as much as Sasuke, or even Itachi, did.
Bonus 1.) Sakura was in Sage mode (Byakugou, Ninja art: Creation Rebirth- Strength of a Hundred Technique, etc.) when she punched Kaguya. Remember rule number 4 for medic ninjas? Look it up.
Bonus 2.) Naruto can create Shadow clones in Bijuu form becasue Kuruma's no longer trying to take all of his chakra. The only problem before was that Naruto would die quickly having chakra drained from all those clones simultaneously. This one was easy.
Bonus 3.) Madara can shift using Kamui as a Jin because he is much more powerful than Obito. What sucks for Madara is that he became the ultimate ninja... -on his deathbead. He pretty much learned all that cool stuff when it was too late to use any of it. Sure he passed some stuff on to Obito, but he never even taught him how to use the Rinnegan. Madara is Shikamaru, Might Gai, and Sasuke all rolled up in a scary package.
1. DMS Kakashi
2. BM Minato
3. Uzumaki extinction
4. Oro's knowledge on everything related to Ootsutsuki
5. BZ
6. Totsuka Blade/Yata Mirror (where the f*ck would you find those laying around)
1. Madara's remote izanagi
2. People being effected by genjutsu despite having no chakra.
3. Madara seeing through undetectable clones.
4. How toad mountain has a different atmosphere despite being able to walk to.
5. Moon's creation in general. Was there no moon in the beginning? How about ocean movements? Zzz
Probably some more things.
Edit: Most of this stuff my only explanation is this is a fictional story, just go with it.
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6. Multiple people from various lands having lava style despite it being impossible for non related people to have the same KKG.
1.) A Kekei Genkei is the mixture of two chakra natures. Obito's sharingan is aalso mix of two chakra natures. Whe Obito died, he used one of the few techniques that a spirit can use: Kamui (Dan used a different one during the ninja war and Rikudou Senin can time travel, astral-project himself, and cast his own form of Edo-Tensei). His spirit went somewhere and then he Kamui'd back without the body because the spirit is made of chakra. He inserted himself, in chakra form, into Kakshi's body. Kakashi, then, had the two chakra natures that made Obito's Sharingan.
2.) Talk no Jutsu is Naruto's most powerful weapon. Even Obito wanted to learn how it works. It worked on Nagato because Naruto had room to talk. He experienced even deeper pain than Nagato, and while Nagato caused some for Naruto when He killed Jiraiya; Narto never caused Nagato any pain. Nagato's change of heart proves he had integrity, and had not lost his way. This makes sense since this is the lesson he and Mifune taught Hanzo.
3.) The eyes aren't the Kekei Genkei, the mix of chakra natures is. Madara did unlock the double Mangekyou, so he fulfilled the requirement to be abled to use Susano'o with or without his eyes (Though I don't remember anyone actually using it without their eyes, myself)
4.) Oro is a snake. He'll never tell you how he really came across that info. That info is actually useless for Oro anyway. Who would he trust with it in case he got sealed? He wouldn't be abled to use it. And if it weren't for Sasuke (the last person even he would've expected) that info would probably have never surfaced.
5.) Obito became a new host when he merged with swirly Zetsu. Either half, or most of his body now has water and earth chakra combined into the wood nature. Obito is no longer just Sharingan guy. He's Sharingan-Wood guy. Kakashi (aside from being a new host) was very careful with his and didn't even use it (in the years he's had it) as much as Sasuke, or even Itachi, did.
Bonus 1.) Sakura was in Sage mode (Byakugou, Ninja art: Creation Rebirth- Strength of a Hundred Technique, etc.) when she punched Kaguya. Remember rule number 4 for medic ninjas? Look it up.
Bonus 2.) Naruto can create Shadow clones in Bijuu form becasue Kuruma's no longer trying to take all of his chakra. The only problem before was that Naruto would die quickly having chakra drained from all those clones simultaneously. This one was easy.
Bonus 3.) Madara can shift using Kamui as a Jin because he is much more powerful than Obito. What sucks for Madara is that he became the ultimate ninja... -on his deathbead. He pretty much learned all that cool stuff when it was too late to use any of it. Sure he passed some stuff on to Obito, but he never even taught him how to use the Rinnegan. Madara is Shikamaru, Might Gai, and Sasuke all rolled up in a scary package.
And so true. Naruto has some genuine problems with the writing. Too bad most people try to nit pick without actual home work. Worse is the case when people read a story of fictional world and raise question based on RL. Going scientific in RL when they are reading a story where faces can be stolen, bodies can be changed, dead are animated, people have mouth and eyes on hand...
1. Madara's remote izanagi
2. People being effected by genjutsu despite having no chakra.
3. Madara seeing through undetectable clones.
4. How toad mountain has a different atmosphere despite being able to walk to.
5. Moon's creation in general. Was there no moon in the beginning? How about ocean movements? Zzz
Probably some more things.
Edit: Most of this stuff my only explanation is this is a fictional story, just go with it.
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6. Multiple people from various lands having lava style despite it being impossible for non related people to have the same KKG.
I think each specific village has a specific yoton style.
Like mei's is flat out lava while onnoki's granddaughter 's is cement, and the other one is vulcanized rubber.
I think each specific village has a specific yoton style.
Like mei's is flat out lava while onnoki's granddaughter 's is cement, and the other one is vulcanized rubber.
1.Making a mass-murdering psychopath into a "political" village leader (aka Kazekage) just because he changed.... with that power Sasuke is the perfect Hokage canditate.
2.Instead of using disguses ALL Akatsuki members wears flashy coats that even the most dumbest civil know already that it is the uniform of criminals.... wondering if they are easily detected?
3.Instead summoning some edo tensei zombies to protect himself or aid in his battle Kabuto starts a fight alone againts the uchiha brothers.
4.Instead of summoning the Juubi at the first night already and finish everything quickyl Obito wastes another day and night technicaly for the nothing.
5.The creater of Edo Tensei don't know how to escape from his own technique that he developed.
6.Tobirama created Kage Bunshin and Hiraishin.... so good that the jutsus were stated as Hashirama's and Minato's creations in the early manga stages.
7.Kushina wanted to reseal Kurama back to her and stated she will die from the extraction... later, Naruto's life will be saved by resealing Kurama back to her and unlike Naruto who instantly fainted into coma Kushina still had enough power to move and using jutsus... so if Minato would either allowing to Kushina to reseal Kurama back to her OR Minato sealed Kurama back to his wife himself Kushina's life could be saved and Naruto could have at least 1 if not both of his parents.
8.Since Naruto was outcasted since he was a little child, Obito could easily befriend with him and taking him away from the village OR doing it already after the deaths of Naruto's parents as he unlike Hiruzen and the others could easily slip over Kushina's barrier.
9.Pain mentioned that one of their goal is a mercenary army and they collected tons of many for it.... only to be forgotten.
10.The Raikage instead of trying to capture Sasuke or any of his friends so he could interrogate them or using mind reading jutsus on them he instantly wants to kill him, destoying the last chances to save his brother and learning his whereabout (yes, the readers knew the truth, but the Raikage learned it only chapters later that Bee escaped).
11.Madara instead of making sure that all the 5 kages are dead by slicing them to pieces he just left them behind thinking they won't survive.... forgeting he is a shonen manga.
12.Instead of going back to Konoha and asks more help to hunt down Itachi Sasuke uses 3 defect failures to find Itachi.
13.Shimaru Danzo doesn't even try to lying to Sasuke! Further, instead of using Izanagi to escape back to Konoha, he starts a fight with a 50 years younger healthy man at age 79. Experience or not, there are conditions that should not be big.
14.Instead if sending Pain againts the Hachibi while sending Sasuke againts Naruto and Konoha with Taka already, he does the opposite, ignoring that to Sasuke Naruto is a "well known" opponents while Killer Bee is a totally new opponent to him, knowing nothing about him.
15.Despite saying that in the Itachi Hun arc that the entire tailed beasts need to be sealed in ranking or the statue collapses later they summon the Juubi without sealing Gyuki and Kurama.
16.Kakashi using Perfect Susanoo without sharingan eyes despite Obito never showned any sign or hint that he has Perfect Susanoo too + as Madara said if somebody doesn't have both sharingan eyeballs then you sucked.
17.Kakashi never became blind for using Mangekyo.
18.Power ups from nowhere (literraly) and the legendary, mostly character exclusive skills and abilities are given to every second fodders.
19.Kakashi wants to talking Sasuke down from revenge in Part 1 telling him "revenge is bad, revenge is evil".... only to become hypocrite and agreeing with Shikamaru's plan of revenge, saying "yes, revenge is needed, revenge is sweet" instead of talking Shikamaru down from it.
20.Despite Karin, being the first intelligent girl in the series, giving up on Sasuke and saying out loudly "I am done with you", 150 chapters later Kishimoto ruins her character just to add the SK shipping card back to the deck.
And I can say more but I don't have any fingers left.
But honestly, should we taking this seriously? I mean Naruto is a neverending shonen fight manga, not a seinen.
1.Making a mass-murdering psychopath into a "political" village leader (aka Kazekage) just because he changed.... with that power Sasuke is the perfect Hokage canditate.
2.Instead of using disguses ALL Akatsuki members wears flashy coats that even the most dumbest civil know already that it is the uniform of criminals.... wondering if they are easily detected?
3.Instead summoning some edo tensei zombies to protect himself or aid in his battle Kabuto starts a fight alone againts the uchiha brothers.
4.Instead of summoning the Juubi at the first night already and finish everything quickyl Obito wastes another day and night technicaly for the nothing.
5.The creater of Edo Tensei don't know how to escape from his own technique that he developed.
6.Tobirama created Kage Bunshin and Hiraishin.... so good that the jutsus were stated as Hashirama's and Minato's creations in the early manga stages.
7.Kushina wanted to reseal Kurama back to her and stated she will die from the extraction... later, Naruto's life will be saved by resealing Kurama back to her and unlike Naruto who instantly fainted into coma Kushina still had enough power to move and using jutsus... so if Minato would either allowing to Kushina to reseal Kurama back to her OR Minato sealed Kurama back to his wife himself Kushina's life could be saved and Naruto could have at least 1 if not both of his parents.
8.Since Naruto was outcasted since he was a little child, Obito could easily befriend with him and taking him away from the village OR doing it already after the deaths of Naruto's parents as he unlike Hiruzen and the others could easily slip over Kushina's barrier.
9.Pain mentioned that one of their goal is a mercenary army and they collected tons of many for it.... only to be forgotten.
10.The Raikage instead of trying to capture Sasuke or any of his friends so he could interrogate them or using mind reading jutsus on them he instantly wants to kill him, destoying the last chances to save his brother and learning his whereabout (yes, the readers knew the truth, but the Raikage learned it only chapters later that Bee escaped).
11.Madara instead of making sure that all the 5 kages are dead by slicing them to pieces he just left them behind thinking they won't survive.... forgeting he is a shonen manga.
12.Instead of going back to Konoha and asks more help to hunt down Itachi Sasuke uses 3 defect failures to find Itachi.
13.Shimaru Danzo doesn't even try to lying to Sasuke! Further, instead of using Izanagi to escape back to Konoha, he starts a fight with a 50 years younger healthy man at age 79. Experience or not, there are conditions that should not be big.
14.Instead if sending Pain againts the Hachibi while sending Sasuke againts Naruto and Konoha with Taka already, he does the opposite, ignoring that to Sasuke Naruto is a "well known" opponents while Killer Bee is a totally new opponent to him, knowing nothing about him.
15.Despite saying that in the Itachi Hun arc that the entire tailed beasts need to be sealed in ranking or the statue collapses later they summon the Juubi without sealing Gyuki and Kurama.
16.Kakashi using Perfect Susanoo without sharingan eyes despite Obito never showned any sign or hint that he has Perfect Susanoo too + as Madara said if somebody doesn't have both sharingan eyeballs then you sucked.
17.Kakashi never became blind for using Mangekyo.
18.Power ups from nowhere (literraly) and the legendary, mostly character exclusive skills and abilities are given to every second fodders.
19.Kakashi wants to talking Sasuke down from revenge in Part 1 telling him "revenge is bad, revenge is evil".... only to become hypocrite and agreeing with Shikamaru's plan of revenge, saying "yes, revenge is needed, revenge is sweet" instead of talking Shikamaru down from it.
20.Despite Karin, being the first intelligent girl in the series, giving up on Sasuke and saying out loudly "I am done with you", 150 chapters later Kishimoto ruins her character just to add the SK shipping card back to the deck.
And I can say more but I don't have any fingers left.
But honestly, should we taking this seriously? I mean Naruto is a neverending shonen fight manga, not a seinen.
At # 7. Naruto dosen't have full kurama so it would make sense that the extraction wouldn't kill him.
#17 kakashi eventually did go blind.
#19. Revenge or not akatsuki was enemies of Konoha that in due time had to be hunted. Unlike sasuke shikamaru had extensive first hand knowledge of their abilities and a layered plan on how to go about it, and above all he used teamwork. Sasuke did nothing of the sort.
the sasuke's rinnehawk somehow not being affected by IT, despite everything else being.
naruto being able to master shadow clones after ten minutes, despite being unable to use proper clones at all.
naruto going from SM to KCM to BM to BSM to RSM in literally >24 hours
Sasuke getting EMS, then almost instantly mastering PS. (Again, less than 24 hours)
DMS kakashi
kakashi never being able to use MS before the start of part 2, despite getting it years before the start of part 1. sasuke could use it less than a day later and obito could use it from 20 seconds.
DMS kakashi getting PS
The Ootsutsuki family
obito ignoring things stated to be guarenteed fatal, many, many times. including death. twice.
Madara copying obito and ignoring fatal injuries, including death. three times.
1.Making a mass-murdering psychopath into a "political" village leader (aka Kazekage) just because he changed.... with that power Sasuke is the perfect Hokage canditate.
2.Instead of using disguses ALL Akatsuki members wears flashy coats that even the most dumbest civil know already that it is the uniform of criminals.... wondering if they are easily detected?
3.Instead summoning some edo tensei zombies to protect himself or aid in his battle Kabuto starts a fight alone againts the uchiha brothers.
4.Instead of summoning the Juubi at the first night already and finish everything quickyl Obito wastes another day and night technicaly for the nothing.
5.The creater of Edo Tensei don't know how to escape from his own technique that he developed.
6.Tobirama created Kage Bunshin and Hiraishin.... so good that the jutsus were stated as Hashirama's and Minato's creations in the early manga stages.
7.Kushina wanted to reseal Kurama back to her and stated she will die from the extraction... later, Naruto's life will be saved by resealing Kurama back to her and unlike Naruto who instantly fainted into coma Kushina still had enough power to move and using jutsus... so if Minato would either allowing to Kushina to reseal Kurama back to her OR Minato sealed Kurama back to his wife himself Kushina's life could be saved and Naruto could have at least 1 if not both of his parents.
8.Since Naruto was outcasted since he was a little child, Obito could easily befriend with him and taking him away from the village OR doing it already after the deaths of Naruto's parents as he unlike Hiruzen and the others could easily slip over Kushina's barrier.
9.Pain mentioned that one of their goal is a mercenary army and they collected tons of many for it.... only to be forgotten.
10.The Raikage instead of trying to capture Sasuke or any of his friends so he could interrogate them or using mind reading jutsus on them he instantly wants to kill him, destoying the last chances to save his brother and learning his whereabout (yes, the readers knew the truth, but the Raikage learned it only chapters later that Bee escaped).
11.Madara instead of making sure that all the 5 kages are dead by slicing them to pieces he just left them behind thinking they won't survive.... forgeting he is a shonen manga.
12.Instead of going back to Konoha and asks more help to hunt down Itachi Sasuke uses 3 defect failures to find Itachi.
13.Shimaru Danzo doesn't even try to lying to Sasuke! Further, instead of using Izanagi to escape back to Konoha, he starts a fight with a 50 years younger healthy man at age 79. Experience or not, there are conditions that should not be big.
14.Instead if sending Pain againts the Hachibi while sending Sasuke againts Naruto and Konoha with Taka already, he does the opposite, ignoring that to Sasuke Naruto is a "well known" opponents while Killer Bee is a totally new opponent to him, knowing nothing about him.
15.Despite saying that in the Itachi Hun arc that the entire tailed beasts need to be sealed in ranking or the statue collapses later they summon the Juubi without sealing Gyuki and Kurama.
16.Kakashi using Perfect Susanoo without sharingan eyes despite Obito never showned any sign or hint that he has Perfect Susanoo too + as Madara said if somebody doesn't have both sharingan eyeballs then you sucked.
17.Kakashi never became blind for using Mangekyo.
18.Power ups from nowhere (literraly) and the legendary, mostly character exclusive skills and abilities are given to every second fodders.
19.Kakashi wants to talking Sasuke down from revenge in Part 1 telling him "revenge is bad, revenge is evil".... only to become hypocrite and agreeing with Shikamaru's plan of revenge, saying "yes, revenge is needed, revenge is sweet" instead of talking Shikamaru down from it.
20.Despite Karin, being the first intelligent girl in the series, giving up on Sasuke and saying out loudly "I am done with you", 150 chapters later Kishimoto ruins her character just to add the SK shipping card back to the deck.
And I can say more but I don't have any fingers left.
But honestly, should we taking this seriously? I mean Naruto is a neverending shonen fight manga, not a seinen.
1.Making a mass-murdering psychopath into a "political" village leader (aka Kazekage) just because he changed.... with that power Sasuke is the perfect Hokage canditate.
Sasuke did put a claim, didn't he? And Gara's village came for him since he proved himself when Deidara atacked him. He didn't try his strongest attacks because it would have destroyed the village too. Initially they had let him be the kage because he was strongest there and none dared to oppose him. If you remember Gara was slightly surprised that they had come to get him back in the end.
2.Instead of using disguses ALL Akatsuki members wears flashy coats that even the most dumbest civil know already that it is the uniform of criminals.... wondering if they are easily detected?
lol True about the colours. Though Itachi wanted to be noticed. He was there to make his presence known and felt to warn Danzou after Hiruzen died and no Akatsuki was not that commonly known. Jiraiya informed Kakashi about it.
3.Instead summoning some edo tensei zombies to protect himself or aid in his battle Kabuto starts a fight alone against the uchiha brothers.
Probably because he was confident. Besides he hadn't left edos left which could help him against Itachi. This is the plot after all. If things didn't go right for the hero manga would be called Kabuto not Naruto.
4.Instead of summoning the Juubi at the first night already and finish everything quickyl Obito wastes another day and night technicaly for the nothing.
He was hoping to capture whole of 8 and 9 tails first. He was forced to initiate without them because the war wasn't going his way.
5.The creater of Edo Tensei don't know how to escape from his own technique that he developed.
Manga says he did:
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It even explained why he didn't use it.
6.Tobirama created Kage Bunshin and Hiraishin.... so good that the jutsus were stated as Hashirama's and Minato's creations in the early manga stages.
Minato still used his own variation of it. It's slightly different and unlike Tobirama it was his signature technique. And I forget where did it say kage bunshin was created by Hashi. Link please?
7.Kushina wanted to reseal Kurama back to her and stated she will die from the extraction... later, Naruto's life will be saved by resealing Kurama back to her and unlike Naruto who instantly fainted into coma Kushina still had enough power to move and using jutsus... so if Minato would either allowing to Kushina to reseal Kurama back to her OR Minato sealed Kurama back to his wife himself Kushina's life could be saved and Naruto could have at least 1 if not both of his parents.
This one is a valid point but not one that cannot be explained. Kushina was already tired from delivering a baby and almost out of chakra after all the fight+ Kyuubi was not friendly to her but trying to kill her. A jinchiruki has to have enough chakra to control the bijju who constantly takes chakra from the user too. Remember? Naruto's situation was different because Kybbui doesn't take chakra any longer from Naruto and wanted to save him thus cooperates and heals him.
8.Since Naruto was outcasted since he was a little child, Obito could easily befriend with him and taking him away from the village OR doing it already after the deaths of Naruto's parents as he unlike Hiruzen and the others could easily slip over Kushina's barrier.
And do what? Adopt him? He went to take him when he was ready to seal the 9 tails.
9.Pain mentioned that one of their goal is a mercenary army and they collected tons of many for it.... only to be forgotten.
And what of it? He died. Tobi had his own Zetsu army and doesn't seem to be in want of money. We don't know what else he would have done but Kabtuo joined him- almost forced him.
10.The Raikage instead of trying to capture Sasuke or any of his friends so he could interrogate them or using mind reading jutsus on them he instantly wants to kill him, destoying the last chances to save his brother and learning his whereabout (yes, the readers knew the truth, but the Raikage learned it only chapters later that Bee escaped).
You answered yourself- he learned he was alive only afterwards. So why would he must try to save someone whom he considered dead already? Besides it's established that he is hot headed and can be real impatient when it's something concerning his brother.
11.Madara instead of making sure that all the 5 kages are dead by slicing them to pieces he just left them behind thinking they won't survive.... forgeting he is a shonen manga.
Madara didn't care for them. It didn't even mater besides if they were not completely dead he could use their chakra to replenish the gedo mezo. I don't think Madara know what a shonen manga is.
12.Instead of going back to Konoha and asks more help to hunt down Itachi Sasuke uses 3 defect failures to find Itachi.
Konoha wouldn't send him after Itachi. They would tell him to sit down and forget him. They already told him to forget about revenge and if they had willingness and capability to track itachi they would have done that years ago. Besides he got a good team to track his brother.
13.Shimaru Danzo doesn't even try to lying to Sasuke! Further, instead of using Izanagi to escape back to Konoha, he starts a fight with a 50 years younger healthy man at age 79. Experience or not, there are conditions that should not be big.
Did you forget that he was aware of Tobi's presence and had some inkling of his powers? He probably knew him because of Uchiha massacre which he ordered and was completed by Tobi along with Itachi. He was constantly worried about Tobi more than Sasuke or he would have used Shisui's eye on Sasuke.
14.Instead if sending Pain againts the Hachibi while sending Sasuke againts Naruto and Konoha with Taka already, he does the opposite, ignoring that to Sasuke Naruto is a "well known" opponents while Killer Bee is a totally new opponent to him, knowing nothing about him.
Naruto was also his friend and Sasuke was going back to Konoha. Tobi wanted Sasuke to be forced to switch the side for good and take Itachi's eye, not to hand him over to Konoha.
15.Despite saying that in the Itachi Hun arc that the entire tailed beasts need to be sealed in ranking or the statue collapses later they summon the Juubi without sealing Gyuki and Kurama.
Tobi had portion of their chakra-. It lessened the effectiveness and he was forced to activate earlier because the war was not going his way. Did you even read the manga or copy Pasted this list from someplace?
16.Kakashi using Perfect Susanoo without sharingan eyes despite Obito never showned any sign or hint that he has Perfect Susanoo too + as Madara said if somebody doesn't have both sharingan eyeballs then you sucked.
Obito never had both sharigan eyes till BZ finally took him over, you know. The ability to activate Susano seems to come only if they get a handle on two MS first.
17.Kakashi never became blind for using Mangekyo.
He lost it before he could go blind. He didn't even know about it till Itachi used it on him and learned it only around Gara rescue arc. His expertise with it increased in steps but he kind of lost it within 3 years of learning it.
18.Power ups from nowhere (literraly) and the legendary, mostly character exclusive skills and abilities are given to every second fodders.74
Exactly who are these fodders you are talking about? :heh:
19.Kakashi wants to talking Sasuke down from revenge in Part 1 telling him "revenge is bad, revenge is evil".... only to become hypocrite and agreeing with Shikamaru's plan of revenge, saying "yes, revenge is needed, revenge is sweet" instead of talking Shikamaru down from it.
Shikamru hadn't made it his only life goal. Akatsuki was after Naruto too and would have been back. They were given the task since they had motivation and the threat was still active and directed at the village. And they knew what Akatsuki was looking for.
20.Despite Karin, being the first intelligent girl in the series, giving up on Sasuke and saying out loudly "I am done with you", 150 chapters later Kishimoto ruins her character just to add the SK shipping card back to the deck.
First intelligent girl? lol she was used just for comic relief - I'm not very fond of that part but the part" first intelligent girl" kind of weakened your argument.
You basically showed how petty most of the complaints are- many of them are just rants of fans because it didn't go their way and others are simply result of not reading the manga properly.
Yep it's just an average shonnen. We already knew that. Still people get in complete nerd mode when discussing it.