Ingwer Hatake & Sin vs Eddy-kun

[Mugiwara]

I might not be a sensei, but I'm a participant, so I guess my opinion is worth a little bit too.

As Gats said, you can place a part of you (choose which part, could be whole too in my opinion) inside the opponent.
The Chakra circulatory system doesn't reach each and every spot in your body, it covers a lot, but doesn't reach everything. You could insert pieces of yourself which don't reach that circulatory system and break them down too then, meaning you don't have to connect to the chakra circulatory system at all. You infuse your cells with chakra, break down, enter, destroy, get out and restore yourself.

I just don't find it logical, even for narutoverse, you can break down at cellular level, but each cell doesn't have its own chakra system, all the cells together, making one creature has a chakra system, not separately.
You might have been able to break down at cellular level, disconnecting your own chakra system in the process, unless you have a medium to merge into, as an opponent, that has a chakra system.

But never mind, as I don't know that much about that Kekkei genkai.

 

[Chiryoku]

I just don't find it logical, even for narutoverse, you can break down at cellular level, but each cell doesn't have its own chakra system, all the cells together, making one creature has a chakra system, not separately.
You might have been able to break down at cellular level, disconnecting your own chakra system in the process, unless you have a medium to merge into, as an opponent, that has a chakra system.

But never mind, as I don't know that much about that Kekkei genkai.

You can merge with things without a chakra circulatory system too, according to the people who approve customs, so I don't see why you would have to connect to the chakra system to merge.
Cells don't have seperate chakra systems, that's true, and that's what makes me able to merge with someone without merging with the chakra system itself.

There hasn't been alot about it in the manga/anime. =\ I guess Gats knows most about it. o-o He studied. >.<

 

[Mugiwara]

You can merge with things without a chakra circulatory system too, according to the people who approve customs, so I don't see why you would have to connect to the chakra system to merge.
Cells don't have seperate chakra systems, that's true, and that's what makes me able to merge with someone without merging with the chakra system itself.

There hasn't been alot about it in the manga/anime. =\ I guess Gats knows most about it. o-o He studied. >.<

Yea dude, but if you break down at cellular level, into trillions of individual cells, together they have a chakra system, but when you break it down, you no longer have a chakra system, no ability to return back to your original form. Get it?
But if you merge your own chakra system with someone elses, it enables you to continue using the ability to completely enter their body.

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[Chiryoku]

Yea dude, but if you break down at cellular level, into trillions of individual cells, together they have a chakra system, but when you break it down, you no longer have a chakra system, no ability to return back to your original form. Get it?
But if you merge your own chakra system with someone elses, it enables you to continue using the ability to completely enter their body.

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It's unlogical even for Naruto, I must agree on that. >_<
It's not a KG with much info on it, so we don't know how Souma no Kou users actually transform.
It could be what you said, it could be that they use chakra to break down the cells so they have chakra inserted cells which can move, destroy, etc.
It could be something else, but as I said, we don't know.
As we don't know alot about the KG, we can't be sure how this would play out in Naruto itself =\

Alright then. o-o

 

[Geezus]

You can merge with things without a chakra circulatory system too, according to the people who approve customs, so I don't see why you would have to connect to the chakra system to merge.
Cells don't have seperate chakra systems, that's true, and that's what makes me able to merge with someone without merging with the chakra system itself.

There hasn't been alot about it in the manga/anime. =\ I guess Gats knows most about it. o-o He studied. >.<

>_> everything has chakra.. otherwise there wouldn't be a sage mode.. which draws on nature's chakra.

and correct cells don't have thier own chakra system but you do have to control those cells with your own chakra. But also, once you enter the opponent's body you become part of thier chakra system, part of thier body.
you being so unfamilar to the bijuu, the bijuu inserts its chakra into the body forcibly rejecting you. unless you think your chakra is stronger then a bijuu >_> Like I said same thing happened to Fukaku when he tried to fuse with Naruto.

 

[Chiryoku]

>_> everything has chakra.. otherwise there wouldn't be a sage mode.. which draws on nature's chakra.

and correct cells don't have thier own chakra system but you do have to control those cells with your own chakra. But also, once you enter the opponent's body you become part of thier chakra system, part of thier body.
you being so unfamilar to the bijuu, the bijuu inserts its chakra into the body forcibly rejecting you. unless you think your chakra is stronger then a bijuu >_> Like I said same thing happened to Fukaku when he tried to fuse with Naruto.

I forgot. O_O But even if so, I'm not able to draw out Nature chakra and use it, so that argument doesn't apply.

Yes, true, very true. My OWN chakra. I can't use his chakra, nor his Jinchuuriki's chakra. So, there is no reason to merge with his chakra system, and as I explained before, I can also merge parts which don't have tenketsu/pieces of chakra system in them, meaning that I'm not forced to actually merge with his chakra system.

 

[Sin]

Two bodies = double chakra more than a normal kage, maybe more than the shukaku

and anyway how do we know all bijuu can do this?

anyway kyubi only rejected because he wanted naruto to use his chakra, it doesn't mean the shukaku could just reject it,

and also, merging with cells is kind of outside the chakra system as

there is chakra filled cells then there is normal cells which are also placed around the body,

the 361 chakra points are scattered

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basically the pathways are scattered everywhere but are connected, cells on the other hand are also there,

so he is merging with the cells and not the pathway.

(I really hope I'm making a point >.>)

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combining both cells and chakra in the body, there will be normal cells, then the tenketsu and chakra system in which it is possible to merge

basically chakra beasts as the tailed beasts are called are only found in chakra, merging with cells would mean that you'd avoid any interference with the chakra of the beasts

 

[Chiryoku]

Two bodies = double chakra more than a normal kage, maybe more than the shukaku

and anyway how do we know all bijuu can do this?

anyway kyubi only rejected because he wanted naruto to use his chakra, it doesn't mean the shukaku could just reject it,

and also, merging with cells is kind of outside the chakra system as

there is chakra filled cells then there is normal cells which are also placed around the body,

the 361 chakra points are scattered

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basically the pathways are scattered everywhere but are connected, cells on the other hand are also there,

so he is merging with the cells and not the pathway.

(I really hope I'm making a point >.>)

also:

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combining both cells and chakra in the body, there will be normal cells, then the tenketsu and chakra system in which it is possible to merge

basically chakra beasts as the tailed beasts are called are only found in chakra, merging with cells would mean that you'd avoid any interference with the chakra of the beasts

This is all what I said + a bit more in one post.
Thanks Sin. ^^

 

[Geezus]

Two bodies = double chakra more than a normal kage, maybe more than the shukaku

and anyway how do we know all bijuu can do this?

anyway kyubi only rejected because he wanted naruto to use his chakra, it doesn't mean the shukaku could just reject it,

and also, merging with cells is kind of outside the chakra system as

there is chakra filled cells then there is normal cells which are also placed around the body,

the 361 chakra points are scattered

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basically the pathways are scattered everywhere but are connected, cells on the other hand are also there,

so he is merging with the cells and not the pathway.

(I really hope I'm making a point >.>)

also:

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)

combining both cells and chakra in the body, there will be normal cells, then the tenketsu and chakra system in which it is possible to merge

basically chakra beasts as the tailed beasts are called are only found in chakra, merging with cells would mean that you'd avoid any interference with the chakra of the beasts

Uhh 2 ninjas chakra vs a Bijuu? Lol your idea of chakra capacity is completely off. although its only has one tail the shukaku still has a large chakra capacity just not as extensive as a the higher tailed bijuu.

but anywayz.

you sorta didn't imo. he is fusing with the cells correct. The tenketsu although scattered, release chakra to thoses cells. Each tenketsu can be said to provide chakra to a specific region of cells. so anyway he merges he is going to come in contact with tenketsu and although not directly in contazct in terms of connecting with the chakra system because the tenketsu release chakra to those cells he can still be rejected.

 

[Chiryoku]

Uhh 2 ninjas chakra vs a Bijuu? Lol your idea of chakra capacity is completely off. although its only has one tail the shukaku still has a large chakra capacity just not as extensive as a the higher tailed bijuu.

but anywayz.

you sorta didn't imo. he is fusing with the cells correct. The tenketsu although scattered, release chakra to thoses cells. Each tenketsu can be said to provide chakra to a specific region of cells. so anyway he merges he is going to come in contact with tenketsu and although not directly in contazct in terms of connecting with the chakra system because the tenketsu release chakra to those cells he can still be rejected.

Yes, it has alot more chakra then both of my bodies, and only one is entering anyway, so you would have to deal with an average ninja. No difference of any sorts.

But, as Sin stated, the Kyuubi forced them out because it wanted Naruto to use its chakra. Would the One-Tails want me to use its chakra? No way.

 

[Geezus]

Yes, it has alot more chakra then both of my bodies, and only one is entering anyway, so you would have to deal with an average ninja. No difference of any sorts.

But, as Sin stated, the Kyuubi forced them out because it wanted Naruto to use its chakra. Would the One-Tails want me to use its chakra? No way.

<_< that didn't make any sense..

 

[Sin]

Ingwer means:

Since he'd practically not have any chakra while merged or access to it, he'd proberly use the shukaku chakra and would he want him to use the chakra? No, so he would just start combining and using Garra's chakrz

 

[Chiryoku]

No.
I don't even connect to the chakra system itself. My cells would conserve the chakra inserted in them and use that to attack/move etc. and come out in the end. =\ I wouldn't need his chakra.
My chakra system can break down in its whole and my cells still have enough chakra to actually travel. =\

 

[Geezus]

Ingwer means:

Since he'd practically not have any chakra while merged or access to it, he'd proberly use the shukaku chakra and would he want him to use the chakra? No, so he would just start combining and using Garra's chakrz

>_> still confused.

But from what I'm getting Since Ingwer's body wouldn't have any chakra to manipulate Garra while within him he would feed off Garra's. Which means he would access the chakra system giving the Shukaku the ability to reject the other body.

Which also resolves the fact that the jutsu says.

Parasite Demon Demolition Technique.

Parasite basically means to feed off something else. So therefore that also says why whatever injury happens to the opponent also happens to the user because the user is feeding off the opponent's chakra and body to sustain himself. Which also giveas reason that the Bijuu could in fact reject the user of the technique...

 

[Chiryoku]

>_> still confused.

But from what I'm getting Since Ingwer's body wouldn't have any chakra to manipulate Garra while within him he would feed off Garra's. Which means he would access the chakra system giving the Shukaku the ability to reject the other body.

Which also resolves the fact that the jutsu says.

Parasite Demon Demolition Technique.

Parasite basically means to feed off something else. So therefore that also says why whatever injury happens to the opponent also happens to the user because the user is feeding off the opponent's chakra and body to sustain himself. Which also giveas reason that the Bijuu could in fact reject the user of the technique...

As Gats and I stated, we wouldn't need to connect to the whole system in the first place. O_O

Parasite means that, yes.
But you haven't looked further then just chakra.
As I'm also "eating" cells, in a way. I'm destroying them, but you could see it as "eating", which would lead to the "parasite" too. =\

 

[Deidara...]

the combination is valid chakra doesn't have an effect at the cellular level. if it did tsunade would have been able to heal naruto's arm when he got all messed up from the rasenshuriken. and medjutsu is one of the most detailed usages of chakra.

 

[Passion]

I'm sorry for posting this thread if my opinion is not needed. Anyways in my opinion as the Ingwer goes into Eddy's body and Eddy goes V1 the Ingwer is already a part of Eddy-kun so the demon chakra affects him aswell, Corrupting him too and leaving him stuck on Eddy's body since the V1 creates the sand shield. Meaning that Ingwer is beneath it. ( What if Fungus would be growing on Jichuriki? If the jinchuriki goes into bio the fungus wont get hurt since it's already a part of the Jinchuriki and his body so :/ ) I don't want to hear any BS how my opinion is wrong or something like that. This just is the way how I see this situation in

 

[Deidara...]

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chakra does not effect anything on a cellular level.

 

[Chiryoku]

I'm sorry for posting this thread if my opinion is not needed. Anyways in my opinion as the Ingwer goes into Eddy's body and Eddy goes V1 the Ingwer is already a part of Eddy-kun so the demon chakra affects him aswell, Corrupting him too and leaving him stuck on Eddy's body since the V1 creates the sand shield. Meaning that Ingwer is beneath it. ( What if Fungus would be growing on Jichuriki? If the jinchuriki goes into bio the fungus wont get hurt since it's already a part of the Jinchuriki and his body so :/ ) I don't want to hear any BS how my opinion is wrong or something like that. This just is the way how I see this situation in

He can't even go V1 during my turn. :|

 

[Geezus]

eh, well IO guess now that you put it like that. >_> but i still think it would reject him. anyways.. Good Luck Eddy.