Infinite Tsukiyomi

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So I was just watching Road to Ninja for the first time (movie that solidies Minato as the coolest, btw) and my question to the base is: exactly what is wrong living in a fake but perfect world until death?

In the real world, nothing is permanent; all that you've accomplished, all that you've seen, all the feelings you felt are all for naught whence death comes knocking at your door (I don't believe in an afterlife). Honestly, what's the difference between living in this world and living in a world where your desires come true (obviously it backfired for Sakura, but who cares about her, amirite?) if the end result is the same. The only difference is the life you are simulating will be better.

Because all those accomplishments, all that you've seen, and all the feelings you feel in Infinite Tsukiyomi will feel real. So what exactly distinguishes the two realms? You can't.

So what you're being used in whatever sense Kaguya is using you, when you die, what does it all matter?

Think about it. Think about what morality means. Think about what values mean. Think about the meaning of life. Try to understand that these are all hubristic concepts that we humans have created to feed our egos; none of this is real in the sense of objectivity in the face of nature/the universe. These are all man made concepts . Seriously, question all that you understand about human nature.

So another question would be, isn't it selfish what Naruto is trying to do? Just look at Kibas dream. Naruto is willing to strip that away from him. Unless you think Kiba doesn't deserve said happiness?
 

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Nothing. I.T. is good imo if only you didnt become a Zetsu
 

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I have nothing against the IT. Trust me, if I suddenly gained the powers of the ten tails and the third eye, I'd wait until nightime and use the IT ASAP. It solves one of life's greatests issues, the mortality of our achievements :V
 

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Nothing. I.T. is good imo if only you didnt become a Zetsu

So when you become a zetsu are you still dreaming? Or do you know you're a zetsu zombie? >_>

Akamaru gonna be one ugly ass zetsu xD
 

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Yeah, I've always thought about it this way,
one of the main reasons as why I really didn't care about the manga as much.


Naruto has basically been fending off his dreams, everyone's dreams.
All for what, to achieve this all in reality, the difference is near till none.
The entire act keeping that from happening would be moral, one would guess.



But really who would want to try to fix the world which is nearly impossible, if its spewing lives, upon lives,
and causing so much violence, yet it could be ended all there.

Honestly no one can actually explain purpose of life, allowing it to feel free and good without harming anyone or contradicting anyone is clearly one of the greatest ideas, instead of allowing more lives that could be "victims" to IT die off from all the violence.


My only thoughts towards the feud.
 
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Thankyou! This is precisely why I want to cast infinite tsukuyomi! I am a Christian and I still want to cast it.
 

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thanks you all for all your insightful posts
 

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new question for christians, if you live in IT and since everything is perfect you live a perfect life, upon your zetsuification, do you automatically go to heaven!?!?!?!?!?!
 

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Well in dream land you could live out your perfect life, but once you die its meaningless. In real life you got a shot at carving your name in history and being remembered for good or bad.(take your pick)
 

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new question for christians, if you live in IT and since everything is perfect you live a perfect life, upon your zetsuification, do you automatically go to heaven!?!?!?!?!?!

Lelz, I really would like to think of a christian in IT, hell any person religious will do.
 

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Well in dream land you could live out your perfect life, but once you die its meaningless. In real life you got a shot at carving your name in history and being remembered for good or bad.(take your pick)

It all caves out erasing everything, repeating itself in the end.
Struggles in real life aren't just personal it's Universe wide.
 

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Well in dream land you could live out your perfect life, but once you die its meaningless. In real life you got a shot at carving your name in history and being remembered for good or bad.(take your pick)

okay. I see your point, so now think about this:

at some point in the future the sun will inevitably die out, once that occurs the earth, being as close to the sun as it is, will consequently be wiped out too. What happens to history then??

Even further: if the universe is indeed infinite, that would concretely mean there are also an infinite number of black holes (i hope you know at the center of every galaxy there is a massive black hole). So if there are an infinite number of black holes that would mean that way down the line of what we perceive as time, the entire universe will become engulfed in a black hole. so exactly what the **** is the point of anything?
 

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new question for christians, if you live in IT and since everything is perfect you live a perfect life, upon your zetsuification, do you automatically go to heaven!?!?!?!?!?!

Lmao. Zetsufication. If there is a heaven
 

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okay. I see your point, so now think about this:

at some point in the future the sun will inevitably die out, once that occurs the earth, being as close to the sun as it is, will consequently be wiped out too. What happens to history then??

Even further: if the universe is indeed infinite, that would concretely mean there are also an infinite number of black holes (i hope you know at the center of every galaxy there is a massive black hole). So if there are an infinite number of black holes that would mean that way down the line of what we perceive as time, the entire universe will become engulfed in a black hole. so exactly what the **** is the point of anything?
Exactly, but I couldn't care thinking in a way that'd f*ck me up.
I wanna enjoy, clearly there is no point of shit so.
Enjoy the ride, live and let live ^~^
 

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I guess no one on narutobase wants to discuss a refreshing topic. Rather, they stay captivated by the stale bickering of Naruto vs Sasuke U_U
 
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