#Indra's Lineage > Asura's

[Hakke]

Senju > Uchiha. stay mad

 

[Rase]

Because Sakura Uchiha kept him from dying

Barely. He mostly had help from the Fox and Rikudo. Also Stop bringing up Sakura she is irrelevant.

 

[shelke]

Lmao it really doesn't. That'll be like saying the Senju would be weaker because Hashirama left to protect his brother.

The Uchiha gave up because of their leader left to protect his brother. Do you know what unfavorable mean ?

It's not her fault; she's just really stupid. I mean, it says right there that, "... when Madara changed as well," which is completed by him telling Madara that, "what will the young Uchiha think," and he replies, "... no Uchiha are left ..." that supported him. He basically left off to avenge Izuna, which became the main soruce of contention between the Uchiha and him later.

 

[SenseiSama]

Naruto was above average and he didn't survive , Justin's didn't survive she just lives for a few more minutes before dying , and Mito survived because she resealed the nine tails

Kushina and Karin were average they're just blessed with natural life force and stamina like every Uzumaki, hence why they have better genes. What's normal to them is OP to anyone else.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Except they never lost the clan war :lol

Also strongest Uchiha is JJ Madara or Rinnegan Sasuke who would rek Hashirama.

Nice fanfic.

Hashirama had Madara and the rest of the uchiha at the senju clan's mercy. Its only because of him the uchiha were able to see their next generations.

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Nice fanfic.

Hashirama had Madara and the rest of the uchiha at the senju clan's mercy. Its only because of him the uchiha were able to see their next generations.

If Hashirama died in war against non-Uchiha's then I'm pretty sure Hashirama would lose to Madara and all of his clan combined. The Sharingan wasn't feared for no reason at all.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

If Hashirama died in war against non-Uchiha's then I'm pretty sure Hashirama would lose to Madara and all of his clan combined. The Sharingan wasn't feared for no reason at all.

Well I don't care about your ifs and but, talk about something that actually happened in the manga like when Hashirama had Madara and all of his clan at his mercy. The uchihas survived only because Hashirama showed mercy and that's a fact.

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Well I don't care about your ifs and but, talk about something that actually happened in the manga like when Hashirama had Madara and all of his clan at his mercy. The uchihas survived only because Hashirama showed mercy and that's a fact.

You really expect me to believe that if Hashirama took every Uchiha on at once, he'd survive? He didn't even survive a war with non-Uchiha's, what makes you think he'd be able to take on God knows how many Uchiha's?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

You really expect me to believe that if Hashirama took every Uchiha on at once, he'd survive? He didn't even survive a war with non-Uchiha's, what makes you think he'd be able to take on God knows how many Uchiha's?

Why would he take every uchiha at once when his clan is there to support him.
Without Madara and Izuna the uchihas were fodder anyway compared to Hashirama's power that is. And if Itachi and Obito could do it then sure Hashirama can do it too.

By the way do you know how exactly Hashirama died. If so please share the scans.

 

[King Of Pop]

Yikes lol According to the Senjus

Uchiha>Senju

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woah, never knew this statement was made. That's quite interesting and just shows the uchiha in general overall have the greatest potential over others.

 

[davidou]

woah, never knew this statement was made. That's quite interesting and just shows the uchiha in general overall have the greatest potential over others.

But, Hyuga were stated to be the strongest clan of Konoha multiple times.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

But, Hyuga were stated to be the strongest clan of Konoha multiple times.

Every time was after the uchiha where gone tho...

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Didn't read. Uchiha are natural born losers. Even with the power of nine bijuu, killing intents Sasuke was unable to kill TIRED NARUTO. Not to mention that most of relevant Uchiha had ton of hangouts and free power ups.

lol..natural born losers who in every generation wooped the uchiha's ass...
Tobirama killed Izuna
Madara was always Hashi's *****..
Sasuke with all his hype and prodigeous talent,lost to a talentless Naruto,even after having the 9 bijuu's in his grasp with Rinnesharingan...
best bloodline indeed.....
lol AIDS itachi says hi....

nahh,huge fail,i was talking about ASHURA,NOT NARUTO.
and wasnt Sasuke supoosed to win,sinces he has the better bloodline...
with Hago's power,Rinnesharing and the tailed beast,he still lost..wow! that says alot.

no,Tobirama killed the second in command after Madara,thats a huge achievement.
Sasuke using CUrse mark doesnt count? lol!

we all know sasuke was bent on killing Naruto,while naruto held back even though he claimed he would break his bone...
i laughed at "decimation" both decimated each other.
the only thing that Saved sasuke was because he fought with the intent to kill...via the amount of killing blows he delivered to Naruto.
yea,and madara Never used the Kyuubi against Hashi right?
and sasuke fighting kurama and Naruto at the same time,can you listen to the nonsense you just spewed,get some sense bro,how does that happen when sasuke had the 9 bijuus on his side,a Goddamn lightening susanno,and a Rinnesharingan to boot,while Naruto had only kurama...
2vs1 my as.s cheeks!

All you did was selectively mention things in Naruto's favor. Not addressing many important factors. For example, "sasuke had the 9 bijuus on his side,a Goddamn lightening susanno,and a Rinnesharingan to boot,while Naruto had only kurama..."

You make sure to describe Sasuke's stuff yet not Naruto - Six Paths power + Sage Mode + Bijuu, 6 armed Kyuubi avatar mode, etc. Instead you just normal Kyuubi as if that's all he used.

- Naruto had portions of the Bijuus chakra (hence the mode he was in) aswell as an entire half of the strongest Bijuu's power & his assistance (gathering and giving him chakra while he was busy fighting their opponent). Plus he received all the Natural Energy aboveground from the Kyuubi. NE is combined with the users chakra to create Senjutsu which further powers him up. Whereas Sasuke acquired chakra on his own.

- Furthermore his Sage power up came with the "Universal Comprehension".

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Sasuke didn't recieve instant mastery of his abilities and had to learn & develop them through battle & training.

The Kyuubi stated that they were lucky Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan because he couldn't absorb chakra (Rasengan) whilst having his own technique activated (Chidori). This applies to any other technique at any given point in the battle. Sasuke couldn't use Preta Path to it's full potential/to his full advantage. Extracting the Bijuus' chakra made up for the lack of Preta Path.

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- ^The Kyuubi actually passed out from helping Naruto so much. So he tied with Naruto and defeated the beast.

- And Sasuke only took a portion of the Biju's chakra, which was after they were used throughout the war by multiple people. Madara for example casted the Infinite Tsukuyomi on the entire world. By the time he got to them they may have had 20% of their original power left.

He needed to conserve their power to end the Infinite Tsukuyomi which he plan on doing right after eliminating Naruto.

In addition to the Madara example, here's a couple with Kaguya. Black Zetsu even told her that teleporting across dimensions consumes alot of chakra. *She actually had to go to her core dimensions to gather more*. She then attempted to create a Truth Seeking Orb big enough to create an entire new dimension.

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- Also, notice how Naruto how Naruto needed to train to learn/master the RasenShuriken & Bijuudama, yet during the battle against Sasuke he was easily able to wield a normal Bijuudama & a Bijuudama RasenShuriken formed with all the NE aboveground/Senjutsu.

He was able to do so due to recieving the Universal Comprehension of all things.

^on top of that you completed ignored anything afterwards.

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"Not to mention that most of relevant Uchiha had ton of hangouts and free power ups."

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- Recieves Yang Kyuubi

- Recieves Kyuubi amps via Minato to significantly enhance Naruto's stamina and chakra reserves thus having far more than others which allowed him to also train alot more than others. Another benefit would be the healing factor which again, allows him to train more than others due to recovering quicker.

Stabs himself, is healed within seconds.

Sliced many times by deadly needles, is healed within seconds.

Uses many clones, has all his chakra points closed whilst being knocked around many times - physically exhausted, is healed within seconds.

Gets peirced through the chest, is healed within seconds.

- Recieves chakra from Biju 1-8

- Receives Yin Kyuubi after Yang is stolen.

- Receives half the Sage's power

- Recieves instant mastery of new abilities

- Reicieves Yang Kyuubi after the war

- Recieves another arm

- Recieves Hashirama's cell boost

The only thing Sasuke recieved that he didn't neccessarily earn was half the Sage's power.

- Sasuke earned the Curse Seal by overcoming his initial fear against Orochimaru, fighting him one on one, outsmarting & impressing him, and gaining his respect. Orochimaru commended his abilties, skills, & mindset. Then forcefully gave him the Curse Seal which significantly negatively effected him til he mastered it, gaining perfect control. Something which no one else had done.

Whereas Minato gave Naruto the Kyuubi to save the village in the present & future in hopes that Naruto would someday harness it's power to defeat Tobi.

- He could have gotten the Mangekyo by killing Naruto after owning him in the Final Valley or Orochimaru's hideout but choose not too. He instead decided to only train to enhance the abilities and skills he already had and develop new ones. And that was without even knowing of the negative effects of using it. Back then all he knew was that it was an advanced, more powerful level of the Sharingan.

He unintentionally awakened it from Itachi's death having knowledge of the EMS, and he got the EMS for health purposes.

He earned the MS & EMS through a result of training for years in attempts to become strong enough to kill Itachi, then fighting him. Similar to Naruto with the Kyuubi which allowed him to achieve BM & BSM.

Then Naruto and Sasuke had their final fight and even though Sasuke had a large advantage over Naruto they tied.

You're the same as the people i responded to above. Naruto was the one with the advantage.

A lot of what is said is filler. For one, Obito was never weak enough and suffered from using basic techniques, he just fell behind kakashi who was a massive genius and was about three class levels beyond his age. Obito became a chuunin the same time as Gai, Rin, and even Asuma.

Uchihas are natural born geniuses and are gifted to be stronger. But even awakening a sharingan was rare within the clan and it took until Izuna and madara's time juts to awaken he mangekyo sharingan. Tobirama said it himself that Uchihas can awaken a power far greater than the senjus.

Tobirama was just smart enough to effectively fight a uchiha and hashirama was lucky enough to learn sagemode, so they're the anomaly of the senjus

Well said.

Yikes lol According to the Senjus

Uchiha>Senju

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I never noticed this panel.

Senju > Uchiha. stay mad

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[Rikudou Tobi]

All you did was selectively mention things in Naruto's favor. Not addressing many important factors. For example, "sasuke had the 9 bijuus on his side,a Goddamn lightening susanno,and a Rinnesharingan to boot,while Naruto had only kurama..."

You make sure to describe Sasuke's stuff yet not Naruto - Six Paths power + Sage Mode + Bijuu, 6 armed Kyuubi avatar mode, etc. Instead you just normal Kyuubi as if that's all he used.



^on top of that you completed ignored anything afterwards.

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"Not to mention that most of relevant Uchiha had ton of hangouts and free power ups."

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- Recieves Yang Kyuubi

- Recieves Kyuubi amps via Minato to significantly enhance Naruto's stamina and chakra reserves thus having far more than others which allowed him to also train alot more than others. Another benefit would be the healing factor which again, allows him to train more than others due to recovering quicker.

Stabs himself, is healed within seconds.

Sliced many times by deadly needles, is healed within seconds.

Uses many clones, has all his chakra points closed whilst being knocked around many times - physically exhausted, is healed within seconds.

Gets peirced through the chest, is healed within seconds.

- Recieves chakra from Biju 1-8

- Receives Yin Kyuubi after Yang is stolen.

- Receives half the Sage's power

- Recieves instant mastery of new abilities

- Reicieves Yang Kyuubi after the war

- Recieves another arm

- Recieves Hashirama's cell boost

The only thing Sasuke recieved that he didn't neccessarily earn was half the Sage's power.

- Sasuke earned the Curse Seal by overcoming his initial fear against Orochimaru, fighting him one on one, outsmarting & impressing him, and gaining his respect. Orochimaru commended his abilties, skills, & mindset. Then forcefully gave him the Curse Seal which significantly negatively effected him til he mastered it, gaining perfect control. Something which no one else had done.

Whereas Minato gave Naruto the Kyuubi to save the village in the present & future in hopes that Naruto would someday harness it's power to defeat Tobi.

- He could have gotten the Mangekyo by killing Naruto after owning him in the Final Valley or Orochimaru's hideout but choose not too. He instead decided to only train to enhance the abilities and skills he already had and develop new ones. And that was without even knowing of the negative effects of using it. Back then all he knew was that it was an advanced, more powerful level of the Sharingan.

He unintentionally awakened it from Itachi's death having knowledge of the EMS, and he got the EMS for health purposes.

He earned the MS & EMS through a result of training for years in attempts to become strong enough to kill Itachi, then fighting him. Similar to Naruto with the Kyuubi which allowed him to achieve BM & BSM.



You're the same as the people i responded to above. Naruto was the one with the advantage.




Well said.



I never noticed this panel.

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woah, never knew this statement was made. That's quite interesting and just shows the uchiha in general overall have the greatest potential over others.

Thanks and I've been rereading the viz print to find out more and more stuff.

 

[patrickscott]

I can end this debate easily. Who relied more on plot, Indra's descendants or Ashura's? I rest my case.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

But, Hyuga were stated to be the strongest clan of Konoha multiple times.

Once the Uchiha were gone of course

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[JaphethCrenshaw]

I can end this debate easily. Who relied more on plot, Indra's descendants or Ashura's? I rest my case.

I think being the MC is the biggest plot support you can find.

 

[davidou]

Once the Uchiha were gone of course

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Because Uchiha is a dead clan of fodders.
Nothing says they are stronger than the hyuga.

 

[Jiren]

Sharingan owns

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Because Uchiha is a dead clan of fodders.
Nothing says they are stronger than the hyuga.

I don't know maybe the fact that they were considered the strongest before their extermination? How about this, one Uchiha; Obito Uchiha, could wipe out your entire fapbase clan. You know it's true. You know damn well.