Indra's Arrow kinda sucks

[~Ethereal~]

Expectations are always too high.

 

[Ricardo]

Stopped reading at the moment you tried to use scale of a drawing to prove your point.

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Scale is worthless in a manga drawing. It can't be 100% accurate and consistent.

OT: Indra's Arrow is one of the strongest jutsu of NV. It matched 1 TBBFRS and 1 standard FRS filled with the whole valley's natural energy. Comparing this jutsu to the 9 tailed beast FRS's is just pure retardness.

 

[King Of Pop]

Yeah, stopped reading right there as that's pretty much made up as Sasuke can use that arrow. It simply won't be at the same power and Naruto poured all the NE Kurama could find on the entire ****ing planet, along with the Bijuu chakra on him and all the chakra Kurama could spare into those two attacks. So that "standard" FRS and TBBFRS is some nonsense. These two most powerful attacks, that put anything Naruto has in his arsenal to shame, stalemated a single attack. Yeah, IA is pedestrian. I can see that.

And then you accused someone else of being a ****-rider in another thread. How ironic. What a stupid post. So glad to see the usual degenerates being all trigger happy with the likes.

lmao this clowns acting like naruto used standard tbbfrs or frs, acting like he didnt gather power from NE available. what a joke. IA from manga knowledge also had the disadvantage in terms of elements yet still wasnt overpowered

 

[Blackzoro]

Stopped reading@Bold. Sasuke can make IA again he used bijuu's chakra to make it the first time because he himself was nearly out of chakra.

Also Naruto countered it with his strongest attack and added all the NE around them into that attack. No other technique Naruto have can come close to IA or double FRS with all NE around them.

No he can't sasukes Chakra is what makes susanoo but this susanoo had an internal chakra which was the bijuu Chakra he used the susanoo as a vessel to contain the Chakra saying sasuke can make that susanoo again with his chakra is pure fanfic considering that his own chakra is the susanoo itself. Nice try doe

 

[KCN]

Well, there's one person here who can replicate their strongest attack... and it isn't Sasuke

I'd hate to imagine what would happen to Sasuke if he tried his current Indra's arrow against Naruto's strongest attack.

 

[shelke]

lmao this clowns acting like naruto used standard tbbfrs or frs, acting like he didnt gather power from NE available. what a joke. IA from manga knowledge also had the disadvantage in terms of elements yet still wasnt overpowered

What can one expect from Naruto wankers? It was NE from the entire earth, along with portions of Bijuu chakra and all the chakra Kurama itself could have put out. So, one can imagine the power that lay behind it. And still Naruto completely failed. Kurama even admits that they would have been toast had he not done that.

Actually, Raiton is superior to Futon if it's precise and Sasuke's use of Raiton is unmatched in the manga:

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Therefore, Sasuke's Raiton will always be superior to a Futon attack.

 

[Jokule67]

Thats not what he meant and thats false. Naruto had the worlds NE in his attack. Whatever power he himself can add to that is miniscule.

And i could use the same argument for Sasuke, nulling the point of this thread.

Dude Naruto could produce mabye two Bijuu Rsenshurikens instead of one. Thats what I mean. He can make a stronger attack if he was at 100% which is a big difference considering he can match Madara who actually had all beasts inside him. Also his little piece of beasts chakra allowed for rsm and combatting juubi jin and Sasuke.

Its like working out on an empty stomach versus full while taking protein. Your body still needs to be in tip top shape.

You can make the point for Sasuke of course but that doesnt make the observation irrellevant when it is.

The point of the thread is that Sasuke cannot replicate that same feat because it relies on an outside source which he doesnt have at the ready at all times.

Naruto on the other hand has Nature all around him to easily replicate the feat and an even superior move if his tailed beast chakras arent drained. Its fact bro.

 

[Jokule67]

Stopped reading at the moment you tried to use scale of a drawing to prove your point.

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Scale is worthless in a manga drawing. It can't be 100% accurate and consistent.

OT: Indra's Arrow is one of the strongest jutsu of NV. It matched 1 TBBFRS and 1 standard FRS filled with the whole valley's natural energy. Comparing this jutsu to the 9 tailed beast FRS's is just pure retardness.

I feel like you should count both Rasenshurikens as one attack in itself. Naruto obviously could have pooled the chakra into one move same as Sasuke but kishi wanted to use Six Arms Asura style.

 

[Dawee]

People have probably already said this, but the scan of sasuke's susanoo flying next to the BDRS has the rasenshurikens way in the foreground, the BDRS were about as big as when naruto threw them.

Now that Sasuke is an adult, he could have found a way to use indra's arrow without the bijuu's chakra.

 

[Gabby-chan]

Amount of chakra are the determinant of the strength of this Jutsu.

I mean...that goes for almost every jutsu​

 

[KidGamer65]

Dude Naruto could produce mabye two Bijuu Rsenshurikens instead of one. Thats what I mean. He can make a stronger attack if he was at 100% which is a big difference considering he can match Madara who actually had all beasts inside him. Also his little piece of beasts chakra allowed for rsm and combatting juubi jin and Sasuke.

Its like working out on an empty stomach versus full while taking protein. Your body still needs to be in tip top shape.

You can make the point for Sasuke of course but that doesnt make the observation irrellevant when it is.

The point of the thread is that Sasuke cannot replicate that same feat because it relies on an outside source which he doesnt have at the ready at all times.

Naruto on the other hand has Nature all around him to easily replicate the feat and an even superior move if his tailed beast chakras arent drained. Its fact bro.

It wouldn't matter if he used two Bijuu RS or just one, because the reason why that tech is so powerful in the first is because it's fueled by the power of all the NE in the world. Naruto being at 100% makes no major difference. His chakra is insignificant compared to that level of power. Not to mention more chakra=/=Stronger Ninjutsu. He can't match Madara in chakra amount and that's all that matters for this comparison. All 9 Bijuu merged together>>>>>>Kurama+8 fragments kept separate.


And yes, it makes this thread irrelevant, that Naruto can overpower Sasuke's Indra Arrow, which he can't do. This entire thread is about it's power. Sasuke being able to use it or not is a side point. Lmao.

 

[King Of Pop]

The point of the thread is that Sasuke cannot replicate that same feat because it relies on an outside source which he doesnt have at the ready at all times.

Naruto on the other hand has Nature all around him to easily replicate the feat and an even superior move if his tailed beast chakras arent drained. Its fact bro.

this is not the point of the thread. the main content is clearly to downplay the power of indras arrow by saying naruto can use other attacks stronger than what he used to match it which is false. dont go changing the subject. whether sasuke can use the arrow again is completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion.

I feel like you should count both Rasenshurikens as one attack in itself. Naruto obviously could have pooled the chakra into one move same as Sasuke but kishi wanted to use Six Arms Asura style.

what kind of logic is this? why should he count it as one attack when it was 2? naruto being able to use it as one is irrelevant because at the end of the day he didnt use 1 but 2.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Considering Naruto had to amplify his techniques with the 'world's amount of Natural Energy' or what-ever the translation says, I'm pretty sure he wasn't holding back.

Then why didnt he use one of the 3 tsb make the standard frs a TBBFRS?
:wut:

 

[Blackwatch]

It's only fitting because Sasuke sucks

Look at these dweebs trying to rationalize it. Naruto has been shown to use attacks 10x more powerful than what he did in that panel, and he stalemated Sasuke's GOAT attack amped by Bijuu. Almost as funny as excusing his "I lost" by saying he meant spiritually or politically

 

[LoZelda101]

Since Naruto is the hero Kishi needed something to counter the "villains" attack. Since Kishi was slacking and didn't care about the war arc he just countered that attack with two rasengan variations as he does always. Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not. :lol

pretty much.

 

[Nick01]

Agreed.

 

[Jokule67]

this is not the point of the thread. the main content is clearly to downplay the power of indras arrow by saying naruto can use other attacks stronger than what he used to match it which is false. dont go changing the subject. whether sasuke can use the arrow again is completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion.


what kind of logic is this? why should he count it as one attack when it was 2? naruto being able to use it as one is irrelevant because at the end of the day he didnt use 1 but 2.

Its a free country bud I can do as I please.

All I do is make observations that are true. When it comes to Narutos final attack I made a simple observation. He certainly could have made one super powerful RS instead of 2. And when you use two attacks in 1 it essentially becomes 1 combination attack.

 

[Jokule67]

It wouldn't matter if he used two Bijuu RS or just one, because the reason why that tech is so powerful in the first is because it's fueled by the power of all the NE in the world. Naruto being at 100% makes no major difference. His chakra is insignificant compared to that level of power. Not to mention more chakra=/=Stronger Ninjutsu. He can't match Madara in chakra amount and that's all that matters for this comparison. All 9 Bijuu merged together>>>>>>Kurama+8 fragments kept separate.


And yes, it makes this thread irrelevant, that Naruto can overpower Sasuke's Indra Arrow, which he can't do. This entire thread is about it's power. Sasuke being able to use it or not is a side point. Lmao.

Naruto being at full power matters greatly. If he is in better shape he can refine the chakra more, handle the chakra better and his bijuu chakra which compliments the senjutsu would be more powerful. The two powers benefit each other.

And yes he can overpower the arrow because he can still do his feat while Sasuke cannot. Which was a point stated in the op. If they were to fight right now Naruto can amass the NE all over again and blow him away.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I mean...that goes for almost every jutsu​

That's true but the main point here is that IA Sasuke used at VOTE 2 contain not more than 50% of all TB's chakra(raw estimate). Still it able to stalemate Two FRS full of NE around planet(according to Kurama who collects the chakra). Imagine 100% TB's Chakra Indra Arrow with all quality and quantity.

Indra Arrow that contain small quantity of all Beast chakra managed to destroy Two FRSs full of NE where logically speaking it should/could easily overpower Indra Arrow given the quality and quantity of chakra it holds, with Kishi already putting himself at the corner with his logic, 100% Tailed Beast chakra Indra Arrow+Sasuke's own can overpower the same Two FRSs. Like SSJ2 Gohan's Kamehameha overpowered Perfect Cell's Kamehameha.

Plus, reasoning being used here saying Naruto is not at his 100% chakra level making his Final attack weaker is absurd. Unlike Sasuke, Naruto can replenish his chakra rapidly using Kurama as a medium. Kurama collected more than enough NE around planet turn it into chakra and refuel Naruto's chakra with it(Chakra/Sage Chakra). It is like eating Senzu Bean for Naruto.

Its actually chakra depleted Sasuke vs fully energize Naruto. Sasuke not using TB's chakra for his own self but for his Susanoo mostly.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto being at full power matters greatly. If he is in better shape he can refine the chakra more, handle the chakra better and his bijuu chakra which compliments the senjutsu would be more powerful. The two powers benefit each other.

And yes he can overpower the arrow because he can still do his feat while Sasuke cannot. Which was a point stated in the op. If they were to fight right now Naruto can amass the NE all over again and blow him away.

You literally just made all this nonsense up. Naruto's stamina has nothing to do with the power of the Nature Energy he gathers.

And what you are saying makes zero sense. In a setting where Sasuke could use Indra's Arrow Naruto wouldn't be able to overpower him. That is the point. A setting where Sasuke can't use the arrow is irrelevant to the point of the arrow's power, which is the topic of this thread. "oh lol it's a point in OP" doesn't matter as that is not what the thread is about.

Your post boils down to "Yes he can overpower Indra's Arrow because Sasuke can't use it". :lol Read that back and tell if it makes any type of sense.

Stop trying to cape for OP before you end up sounding just as dumb as he does. :lol