Indra was actually two people at once.

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When Madara and Sasuke was alive, both of them were Indra.


People say that Madara was no longer Indra after obtaining Hashis DNA. I say its not so simple.


It's more like a soul is being shared by two different bodies.


And when Madara died, it may have had a profound impact on Sasuke.

Look at this scan carefully. It looks as if part of Sasuke died upon witnessing Madara's death.
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... the transmigrants do not possess souls of Indra and Ashura, only their chakra.
 

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... the transmigrants do not possess souls of Indra and Ashura, only their chakra.

So I guess everyone is a transmigrant of Kaguya?

Since she was the origin of chakra.

Think about how that doesn't make sense.
 

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No... cause Madara was revived with both Indra and Ashura making him more of the sage then Indra
 

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No, because once Indra and Ashura's chakra are mixed, Hagoromo is born.

This is like mixing black and white paint and calling the gray product black or white.
 

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No... cause Madara was revived with both Indra and Ashura making him more of the sage then Indra

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More to the fact, once he took in Hashi's meat ( XD ) he stopped being an Indra Transmigrant and became more of a Hagoromo Transmigrant of sorts if that makes sense.

The incorporation of both brother's chakra awakened his Rinnegan; something neither of them had, thus making him more akin to the SO6P.

But Hagoromo still refered to Madara as Indra's successor.

Because, originally, he was. Hagoromo also said he was trying to reach his and his mothers power as well. That doesn't change the fact that he was born as indra's Successor.
 

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So I guess everyone is a transmigrant of Kaguya?

Since she was the origin of chakra.

Think about how that doesn't make sense.

But Kaguya's chakra doesn't move from body to body.
 

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When Madara died Sasuke wasn't born.​
 

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because he was in sense but when he came both half of Hagoromo, he because his successor

Ok, so you are saying that only chakra transfer matters.

Than Kisime is the transmigrant of hundreds of ninja because he has their chakra via samehada.

Everyone is a transmigrant of Kaguya because she is the origin of chakra.

That really makes the word transmigrant trivial don't you think?
 

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I don't think reincarnation is meant to be taken too literal
Madara and sasuke were just the only uchihas to become as strong as Indra
Getting two ms made them have the same chakra signature as Indra
 

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Ok, so you are saying that only chakra transfer matters.

Than Kisime is the transmigrant of hundreds of ninja because he has their chakra via samehada.

Everyone is a transmigrant of Kaguya because she is the origin of chakra.

That really makes the word transmigrant trivial don't you think?

in a way, Kaguya is Adam and Eve, we are all related to them, but not close enough to be called family

Madara having both parts of the sage made him closer to the sage then Indra or Ashura
 

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in a way, Kaguya is Adam and Eve, we are all related to them, but not close enough to be called family

Madara having both parts of the sage made him closer to the sage then Indra or Ashura

What does the word transmigant mean. It means someone that has died and is reborn in as someone else.

Being related is called being family. Being a transmigrant is called being the same person.

There is a huge difference.
 

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I don't think reincarnation is meant to be taken too literal
Madara and sasuke were just the only uchihas to become as strong as Indra
Getting two ms made them have the same chakra signature as Indra

Kishi wouldn't throw around the word transmigrant if it was so meaningless.
 

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What does the word transmigant mean. It means someone that has died and is reborn in as someone else.

Being related is called being family. Being a transmigrant is called being the same person.

There is a huge difference.

yeah everyone is related to Kaguya, while transmigrates of Indra and Ashura, are the same person just born over and over again
 

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yeah everyone is related to Kaguya, while transmigrates of Indra and Ashura, are the same person just born over and over again

Exactly. Juubi Jin Madara is still Indra but is merely Indra with Hagoromo powers.
 

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I agree to an extend.
When hashirama invoked hagoromo upon touching madara sage mentioned that it was possible due to being ashura transmigrant (i think) at same time as nardo was.
 

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Exactly. Juubi Jin Madara is still Indra but is merely Indra with Hagoromo powers.

yeah, but he also had Ashura chakra which made the Rinnegan, which made him more like the sage
 
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