Indra & Rinnegan Sasuke vs. 2 Rinnegan Eye SO6P Madara who was killed by Kaguya

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Re: Indra & Rinnegan Sasuke vs. 2 Rinnegan Eye SO6P Madara who was killed by Kaguya

Lol ? I thought we debated feats here in the VS section, not hype. But yes, by hype and portrayal, Madara wins.

No, we take everything into account. If the manga basically flat out states that he wins, then he wins. Before Hagoromo had feats you didn't see anyone saying that people like Nagato, Madara and Hashirama would defeat him.
 

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No, we take everything into account. If the manga basically flat out states that he wins, then he wins. Before Hagoromo had feats you didn't see anyone saying that people like Nagato, Madara and Hashirama would defeat him.

So, EMS Sasuke is portrayed to be BM Naruto's equal, do we take that into account ? No, we only use the feats, which Naruto has shown to have superior ones. Manga stated that Prime Hiruzen is stronger than all of the Hokage, does this mean that he can beat Hashirama or Tobirama ? Hagoromo had no feats whatsoever, so we could only scale his powers with hype, Madara has feats, none of them good enough to beat Sasuke.
 

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So, EMS Sasuke is portrayed to be BM Naruto's equal, do we take that into account ? No, we only use the feats, which Naruto has shown to have superior ones. Manga stated that Prime Hiruzen is stronger than all of the Hokage, does this mean that he can beat Hashirama or Tobirama ? Hagoromo had no feats whatsoever, so we could only scale his powers with hype, Madara has feats, none of them good enough to beat Sasuke.

You can try and scrunch up some portrayal argument, which is weak by itself considering everyone views the manga differently, but it doesn't change the fact that Naruto outright stated him and Sasuke would need to team up to defeat Madara. No such heavy implication of Sasuke being equal to Naruto was made. Even then, I doubt you can find anything solid that portrays Sasuke and Naruto to be equal.

Yeah, before chapter 50, where Kishimoto didn't have a lot planned out, Hiruzen was stated to be the strongest Hokage. In Databooks 1 and 2 Hiruzen was noted to be the strongest Hokage, but in the 3rd he wasn't noted as such. The 3rd is the only Shippuden databook..coincidence? Lol. Kishimoto obviously made a change. Hashirama's hype overshadows that hype anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Hagoromo having no feats doesn't make this any different from this situation. You are trying to say Sasuke can beat a guy the manga says he can't, based on feats. Which is a fallacious way to come to your conclusion.
 

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Re: Indra & Rinnegan Sasuke vs. 2 Rinnegan Eye SO6P Madara who was killed by Kaguya

2 PSS's should be enough and it depends what kind of abilities indra MS has(assuming he has all since he was the first sharingan user)
 

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Re: Indra & Rinnegan Sasuke vs. 2 Rinnegan Eye SO6P Madara who was killed by Kaguya

Sasuke solos
 

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This Madara wrecks Sasuke. Although indra is featless.
 

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Madaraaaaaaaaaaaaa
 

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Re: Indra & Rinnegan Sasuke vs. 2 Rinnegan Eye SO6P Madara who was killed by Kaguya

Madara low diff. Indra gets wrecked easily.

6 paths Jutsu is no joke. Asura path should be enough to break through Indra's PS

By logic, feats, and portroyal, madara beats sasuke.

And, can't madara just fly up to a PS and absorb it via preta
 

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Sasukes not soloing, not even close.

Indra doesn't have Senjutsu or Rikudo Chakra, So he's essentially useless here. The best he could do is help Sasuke counter Tajuu Chibaku Tensei or act as a distraction for Sasuke to land a blow. Though that's in vain as well, as Madara is immortal. Leaving Sasuke with no way to kill him without Naruto's Yang Seal.

Madara takes this Mid-High Diff.​
 

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How Madara stomps or wins at all is beyond me.

by jiubi doma,actually sasuke cant kill madara
3 rinningan madara is far stronger than sasuke
 

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Re: Indra & Rinnegan Sasuke vs. 2 Rinnegan Eye SO6P Madara who was killed by Kaguya

Indra is the ultimate form of the Sage and Juubi's Yin chakra. Him and Ashura are above the current Sasuke and Naruto. Indra's eyes are basically not a normal MS, they were always 'Eternal' his eyes are basically a Rinnegan lacking its Yang half.
 

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Indra is the ultimate form of the Sage and Juubi's Yin chakra. Him and Ashura are above the current Sasuke and Naruto. Indra's eyes are basically not a normal MS, they were always 'Eternal' his eyes are basically a Rinnegan lacking its Yang half.

Lol. Madara has the sage, Indra's, asura's (whose stronger than indra), his own, and Hashi's chakra along with the juubi's yin and yang chakra. So..

You said it yourself, indra has a lesser dojutsu than madara, so that doesn't change the outcome.
 

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Lol. Madara has the sage, Indra's, asura's (whose stronger than indra), his own, and Hashi's chakra along with the juubi's yin and yang chakra. So..

You said it yourself, indra has a lesser dojutsu than madara, so that doesn't change the outcome.

Madara's level over Yin and Yang is no where near the Sage's level. Lol, Ashura and Indra were equals. One eye'd Rinnegan Madara was getting ***** slapped by Naruto in base, even Sasuke wasn't that far of, even though they have yet to reach the level of the sages sons.
Its obvious that Indra and Ashura's control over Yin and Yang respectively is beyond Madara's control over both Yin an Yang. Better dojutsu doesn't mean everything either. Indra's power over Yin is on a hole other level, same goes for Ashura's over Yang.
 
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Madara's level over Yin and Yang is no where near the Sage's level. Lol, Ashura and Indra were equals. One eye'd Rinnegan Madara was getting ***** slapped by Naruto in base, even Sasuke wasn't that far of, even though they have yet to reach the level of the sages sons.
Its obvious that Indra and Ashura's control over Yin and Yang respectively is beyond Madara's control over both Yin an Yang. Better dojutsu doesn't mean everything either. Indra's power over Yin is on a hole other level, same goes for Ashura's over Yang.

First, this isnt 1rinnegan madara, so that reference was irrelevant, second INDRA HAS NO DAMN FEATS OF BEING ABOVE MADARA AT ALL. how do you know he had better control? Huh, cause he was the son of hagoromo? Get real
 

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First, this isnt 1rinnegan madara, so that reference was irrelevant, second INDRA HAS NO DAMN FEATS OF BEING ABOVE MADARA AT ALL. how do you know he had better control? Huh, cause he was the son of hagoromo? Get real


Indra and Ashura were the ultimate forms of Yin and Yang, they were born with the undiluted blood of the Sage. They bare the full power of Yin and Yang at their disposal. They're above Naruto and Sasuke. One eye's Madara was getting ***** slapped, it seemed two eye'd Madara was going to have the same outcome being handed to him by Sasuke and Naruto together. No matter how you put it, Madara is inferior to Naruto and Sasuke.
Bringing in Indra who's an equal to Ashura, and since both of them are on a different pedestal compared to Naruto and Sasuke.........do the math.
 

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Indra and Ashura were the ultimate forms of Yin and Yang, they were born with the undiluted blood of the Sage. They bare the full power of Yin and Yang at their disposal. They're above Naruto and Sasuke. One eye's Madara was getting ***** slapped, it seemed two eye'd Madara was going to have the same outcome being handed to him by Sasuke and Naruto together. No matter how you put it, Madara is inferior to Naruto and Sasuke.
Bringing in Indra who's an equal to Ashura, and since both of them are on a different pedestal compared to Naruto and Sasuke.........do the math.

Ummm. You obviously don't read the manga. Madara was no where looking like he was going to have the same outcome. Unless you have scans. If anything. It was the other way around. Madara gave them trouble with CT, infinite Tsukuyomi, and in the end they were surrounded by 4 limbos and madara himself. So amuse me, how did it seem like madara was going get the same outcome as the previous time? You can't, your just talking out your ass.

Indra and asura aren't stronger than current Naruto and sasuke. Asura doesn't have 9 bijuus chakra, and indra doesn't have a rinnegan. Nor hagoromos yin and yang seals. Nuff said
 

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Ummm. You obviously don't read the manga. Madara was no where looking like he was going to have the same outcome. Unless you have scans. If anything. It was the other way around. Madara gave them trouble with CT, infinite Tsukuyomi, and in the end they were surrounded by 4 limbos and madara himself. So amuse me, how did it seem like madara was going get the same outcome as the previous time? You can't, your just talking out your ass.

Indra and asura aren't stronger than current Naruto and sasuke. Asura doesn't have 9 bijuus chakra, and indra doesn't have a rinnegan. Nor hagoromos yin and yang seals. Nuff said

plus ,the plot prevented madara from using jiubi doma during the IT to destroy ps with sasuke and naruto
 

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Ummm. You obviously don't read the manga. Madara was no where looking like he was going to have the same outcome. Unless you have scans. If anything. It was the other way around. Madara gave them trouble with CT, infinite Tsukuyomi, and in the end they were surrounded by 4 limbos and madara himself. So amuse me, how did it seem like madara was going get the same outcome as the previous time? You can't, your just talking out your ass.

Indra and asura aren't stronger than current Naruto and sasuke. Asura doesn't have 9 bijuus chakra, and indra doesn't have a rinnegan. Nor hagoromos yin and yang seals. Nuff said

Naruto and Sasuke got their Chakra from a non Jin out of Prime Sage of Six Paths.
Ashura has Ten tails Yang Chakra, and Prime Sage's Yang Chakra (That's why he has his own special Transformation made out of his chakra.) :) . Indra has Ten Tails Yin Chakra and Prime Sage's Yin Chakra.
Ashura and Indra were also born with that Chakra.

I remember Naruto and Sasuke taking out a bunch of CT's with a couple of attacks :)

If Kaguya hadn't been revived and grown from Madara's body, he would've died from the absorption of Chakra. Fact, Kaguya's stronger then Madara, Fact, Naruto is able to strike at Kaguya before she can even react, Fact, Naruto>>Sasuke>>>>>>>>Madara.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke got their Chakra from a non Jin out of Prime Sage of Six Paths.
Ashura has Ten tails Yang Chakra, and Prime Sage's Yang Chakra (That's why he has his own special Transformation made out of his chakra.) :) . Indra has Ten Tails Yin Chakra and Prime Sage's Yin Chakra.
Ashura and Indra were also born with that Chakra.

I remember Naruto and Sasuke taking out a bunch of CT's with a couple of attacks :)

If Kaguya hadn't been revived and grown from Madara's body, he would've died from the absorption of Chakra. Fact, Kaguya's stronger then Madara, Fact, Naruto is able to strike at Kaguya before she can even react, Fact, Naruto>>Sasuke>>>>>>>>Madara.

Ummmm... That last sentence..... Uh.. Okay..
 

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plus ,the plot prevented madara from using jiubi doma during the IT to destroy ps with sasuke and naruto

Exactly. Madara was held back a lot to leave room for Kaguya. That other guy thinks that sasuke alone is stronger than 2 rinnegan madara, which is sick
 
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