Indra lose because Ashura got help?

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madara got jumped too.

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naruto already has help from 9 tailed beast but if that's taken from him he would be fodder lvl.so its 10vs1
 

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madara got jumped too.

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naruto already has help from 9 tailed beast but if that's taken from him he would be fodder lvl.so its 10vs1

I hope you aren't talking about Madara vs Hashirama. If anything was unfair in that fight it was Madara's use of Kuruma

Also, Naruto is still Uzumaki and his base chakra still puts sasuke's to shame.
 

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He doesn't have the ''Support'' of the bijuus he just has small portion of their chakra in him...the tailed beast won't fight for naruto ...

but they will lend him chakra naruto cant do all those rasengan var without them. no rasengan= fodder naruto
 

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Hashirama > Madara with the Kyuubi
 

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I hope you aren't talking about Madara vs Hashirama. If anything was unfair in that fight it was Madara's use of Kuruma

Also, Naruto is still Uzumaki and his base chakra still puts sasuke's to shame.

i posted a scan what does it look like im talking about. chakra amount means almost nothing in a fight. naruto always had more chakra than sasuke and still lose
 

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where is this so called help, lmao :rolleyes:, you guys sure you are not seeing things or reading fanfiction instead of the manga

fodders are only going to get in the way if perfect susanoo and equal level techniques are in the battlefield

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i posted a scan what does it look like im talking about. chakra amount means almost nothing in a fight. naruto always had more chakra than sasuke and still lose

The picture hadn't loaded correctly when I replied to your post.
And about Naruto, I never said that. You said he was fodder level w/o the power of the bijūs while this is not the case
 

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where is this so called help, lmao :rolleyes:, you guys sure you are not seeing things or reading fanfiction instead of the manga

fodders are only going to get in the way if perfect susanoo and equal level techniques are in the battlefield

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where is this so called help, lmao :rolleyes:, you guys sure you are not seeing things or reading fanfiction instead of the manga

fodders are only going to get in the way if perfect susanoo and equal level techniques are in the battlefield

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does this also mean naruto is not going to use the tailed beast against sasuke because if he does its a 10vs1. FYI ashura fought indra with help because he used the tailed beast power to go into his chakra

The picture hadn't loaded correctly when I replied to your post.
And about Naruto, I never said that. You said he was fodder level w/o the power of the bijūs while this is not the case

he is fodder without the tailed beast
 
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This name was completely random. I made this profile the time they were introduced. I'm a Kakashi fan.

Anyway, we know Sasuke and Naruto are equal b/c, while Naruto is stronger, Sasuke is smarter than Naruto.

This may not have been the case w/ Indra & Ashura. We don't know. All I'm saying is both translations state Indra lost.

Yet you still don't understand he didn't lose the fight.
He lost leadership to nishuu they both lost the fight when they actually fought.
 

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but they will lend him chakra naruto cant do all those rasengan var without them. no rasengan= fodder naruto

You're forgetting the TSBs,ALL THE DIFFERENT RASENGANS he created in TBM and NCM,The tailed beast balls and bombs,the different rasen shurikens all without the help of the tailed beasts (excluding kurama) .Yeah if you take all that out and the bijuus chakra the n naruto is fodder..:hyper: but that would be same as taking the Sharingan,chidori,body flicker away from Sasuke.Then sasuke=fodder.
 

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You need Senju DNA to use it. He bit Hashi but it wouldn't take affect until later so Izanagi isn't an option here

No you don't dude.
Madara used Hashirama's DNA when he put it in his wounds not when he bit a piece of his arm...
 

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I disagree, at first genius indra was more superior to his flunky dropout, Ashura( i.e Indra>>Ashura).. Bt then SO6P stated that ashura had to work very hard, and trained his body to match indra's abilities....so therefore later on Ashura =Indra bt then Ashura support > Indra....pure logic
 

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You're forgetting the TSBs,ALL THE DIFFERENT RASENGANS he created in TBM and NCM,The tailed beast balls and bombs,the different rasen shurikens all without the help of the tailed beasts (excluding kurama) .Yeah if you take all that out and the bijuus chakra the n naruto is fodder..:hyper: but that would be same as taking the Sharingan,chidori,body flicker away from Sasuke.Then sasuke=fodder.

lol it not even close to being the same. naruto cant do them without help is the point
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I disagree, at first genius indra was more superior to his flunky dropout younger bro, Ashura( i.e Indra>>Ashura).. Bt then SO6P stated that ashura had to work very hard, and trained his body to match indra's abilities....so therefore later on Ashura =Indra bt then Ashura support > Indra....pure logic
 
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