[Discussion] India has already started China is next?.. Revolution.

[KingHashirama]

So the Indian government is much similar to U.S.A since its ran by 2 main parties Congress and BJP (Bharat Janta Party). For over many years no one had been a challenge to these 2 juggernauts. Until for the 2 years a man named Arvind Kejriwal started his own party called "Aam Adami party" (AAP), it translates into "normal people party". And now the man has been voicing out against corruption and things like drugs and etc. Now in the recent elections the primary elections (since india follows the British parliamentary system), they only gained 4 seats in the parliament out of the 523 seats in the indian house of representatives.

Now the 4 seats out of 523 seats is not that big. However, the peculiar thing is that the seats are from 1 state called Punjab. Punjab was said to have been the leading state in the india's fight for freedom from the british. And now is "titled" as the leading state for the second fight of freedom. Freedom from corruption, drugs and etc. So India is going through a big time revolution right now.

So that only makes one think if China is next. Will the 2 biggest countries (population wise) be the ones to lead the worldwide fight against political corruption? who knows.

Will India's next door neighbor join india in a political revolution? only time will tell, but lets hope so.

What are your opinions? will Kejriwal and his campaign succeed? Will China also head for a reform?​

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[Troyg39]

Yes china will eventually have a revolution, but I suspect it won't be until after the turn of the next century. Probably around the time India's revolution will be mostly completed

 

[Davy Jones]

I know nothing about the way other governments handle themselves, but i have a general idea thanks to your words. do you think they will really do this though? its one thing to say its for political corruption, but whats the proof that they dont wanna do it because they are corrupt themselves? i mean i can see an obvious revolution coming, but my question is do you think it will be more corrupt or less corrupt than the current system china already has in place?

[sorry if that sound abit weird]

 

[KingHashirama]

I know nothing about the way other governments handle themselves, but i have a general idea thanks to your words. do you think they will really do this though? its one thing to say its for political corruption, but whats the proof that they dont wanna do it because they are corrupt themselves? i mean i can see an obvious revolution coming, but my question is do you think it will be more corrupt or less corrupt than the current system china already has in place?

[sorry if that sound abit weird]

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You can check their site, and have a good look at what they are about. . The BJP ran for the elections with 8 billion rupees, while the congress ran with 2 billion rupees, the AAP only had about 300 million rupees. And all from donation.

Their donation list is online on their site.

The problem with india's current system is it is to focused around old geezers who have been there since its freedom and some have been there for 30-40 years.. similar to some politicians in America. And also, that party already proved itself anti-corruption when that "Kejriwal" became the "Chief minister" of Delhi, the country's capital.

Yes china will eventually have a revolution, but I suspect it won't be until after the turn of the next century. Probably around the time India's revolution will be mostly completed

turn of the century. Any specific reasons to why you believe its gonna be that far away?

 

[twitch tahir]

revolution is a tough stuff. sometimes good, sometimes bad, it all depends on the leader

 

[KingHashirama]

revolution is a tough stuff. sometimes good, sometimes bad, it all depends on the leader

Amen to that.

 

[vasu 32]

Kejriwaal failed because he acted like a douche lately, and btw, since our independence, it's the first time that some non congress govt. , BJP, came to power and that to it's the second time after 1984, that a stable govt. was formed. And there were like 10 or more parties who actually fought the elections, unlike America. As for China, the demand of full democracy is raising among the youths.

 

[Avani]

:|

Fighting corruption 'U turn Kejariwal' style? Seriously? Are there still people who are buying into his drama? Revolution my foot. He basically undermined even Anna's movement.

 

[BLAZE]

Kejriwal's U turn though
also BJP won Lok Sabha election here becoz of Modi factor.
As Chankya/kautilya said
"Corruption in Politics is like sugar in mouth
one can'simply resist that"

 

[Naruto.]

Never thought you were Indian lol.
Anyways, Kejriwal started with a good intention of rooting out corruption, but now all he rants about is Narendra Modi or the BJP party. Sitting on a 'dharna' isn't the solution to everything. He overdoes things. Even though BJP is a pretty corrupt party, and I have no hopes in Modi, I still would wait and see how Modi runs the government, he's been way too overrated. Most of his supporters are anyways AAP bashers/Hindu nationalists ( I'm Hindu myself ). So, coming to the main point, nothing can be said about China. Maybe a revolution could take place?

 

[KingHashirama]

Never thought you were Indian lol.
Anyways, Kejriwal started with a good intention of rooting out corruption, but now all he rants about is Narendra Modi or the BJP party. Sitting on a 'dharna' isn't the solution to everything. He overdoes things. Even though BJP is a pretty corrupt party, and I have no hopes in Modi, I still would wait and see how Modi runs the government, he's been way too overrated. Most of his supporters are anyways AAP bashers/Hindu nationalists ( I'm Hindu myself ). So, coming to the main point, nothing can be said about China. Maybe a revolution could take place?

Partially indian yes. xD Mostly Samoan.

 

[Gary777]

Who cares about the fakin chinese government .... But the people of china should have freedom from restrictive policy and speech ... Their internet freedom has become shit coz the govt fears the will of people ....
India so far is good in that terms

 

[Aim64C]

It is my experience that events can be predicted accurately, but time frames are not as easy.

The course of events is relatively non-linear and behavior changes/adjustments usually spread 'virally.' This same trend also applies to economics and many other sectors and is rooted in a concept known as 'geometric expansion.'

For example - in the U.S. two individuals just shot and killed a couple police officers, believing they were starting a revolution (or something).

The idea failed to 'take.' It failed to spread. It was not adopted by others. ... But there are other revolutions that have started in very similar veins. Serbia's rebels trace their 'origin' back to an ambush on a trade caravan (of disputed purpose/nationality).

Of course - Mustafa just got done ****ing the whole country over and people who took the actions necessary simply to survive in a peaceful way were plundered by the Ottoman tax collectors. So the idea of killing Ottomans was not even remotely difficult to sell.

Americans are not in the market for killing police officers - so the idea failed to replicate and would-be rebels just turned out to be ass-hats.

Environmental shifts can be sudden and unpredictable. I would not have predicted Obama's current predicament. I vastly underestimated the stupidity and incompetence of his administration. The call to impeach him has never been stronger - and, quite honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets literally hauled out on a rail (without a congressional proceeding). I'd have a bucket of tar waiting for him, too (and someone had better find some feathers).

On the other hand - when the environment is 'stable' - people are slow to adopt radical shifts in perspective, attitude, or behavior. When they change - they become very open to actions and ideas that are well beyond what they would have previously considered.

I can tell you that the U.S. will collapse (economically). It is mathematically impossible for it not to. I can tell you what major ideologies will be fighting for control and/or legitimacy in the post-collapse environment.

I can throw in a time-frame... but the fact is that there are a lot of factors that can throw that estimate any given direction by months to years.

China will eventually revolt against the corruption of its government - most countries adopting the Internet will. Information is very unforgiving to the corrupt systems most countries have (even though the U.S. is one of the lesser evils in terms of corruption - it is still dysfunctionally corrupt and getting progressively worse).

Russia will undergo an expansion - but that will quickly lead to an issue with rebellion against the totalitarian state that is forming amidst its expansion. I doubt they will make it 20 years without that revolution - but it could easily take 100 years. I just don't see the current Russian government as a stable government - it is still an interim government akin to the U.S. Continental Congress.

The Internet will end up fueling a lot of this. It is a source of information that cannot be controlled and cannot be filtered. Control over information has been how many empires maintain their control - and the Internet makes it literally impossible to control the flow of information. People eventually discover that you've been paying off 'main stream' media or that they are simply not doing their job and gravitate toward other forms of media.

The bubbles of centralized banking are also going to be a very rude awakening. Never before in the history of man have centralized banks had such unregulated authority. They literally print currency by multiplying numbers in computers - it doesn't even have to roll out on the printing press because of the advent and popularity of digital banking.

Yet governments are still operating as if it's the 1700s and banks rely upon physical bank notes and 'checkbook cash.' So they authorize practices that explode the currency supply incalculably high. That works so long as there are rapidly expanding sectors of the economy to soak up the extra numbers. The global economy is in for a very, very rude awakening regarding the laws of mathematics.

So there are going to be revolutions everywhere. People are demanding higher standards of living and higher degrees of freedom because of the liberties afforded to them by modern technology - and most governments don't function when people have those standards and freedoms. So they will crumble and be replaced.

 

[Memento Mori]

KingHashirama is an indian????

Revolution?? what??

 

[Sherlock.]

Arvind Kejriwal is a drama queen. He is nowhere to be allowed near the nation's administration. You seem to be hugely misinformed if you think that drama queen will cause any sort of revolution in India. He's a loser and will turn India into a loser nation. He'd better sit home ranting about Modi than messing up Indian politics which is already too messed up by UPA. At this point of time we need pragmatic leaders not drama queens. He is a joke of a man who will turn Indians into a joke. He'll go to Russia and China and do dharna for turning Russia and China into democracies. Sounds crazy what I just said right? And outrageous too? Well that's the kind of crack pot he is. No diplomacy or practical approach but complete idiocracy is his style.

 

[Wabbit]

revolution? where? :| I dnt see anything ridiculous
Kejriwal was just one person who was in anti corruption movement and used it for election. He has nothing to do with it other than that.

As for china
The one of the successful communist government knows how to control its people.Chinese ppl are busy working.Not everything in china is as it shown in Hollywood movies..Only thing is if something like a revolution/rebellion happens in the Chinas troubled parts like Xinjiang by explicitly that will affect their government.

 

[Avani]

No takers of the revolution? lol


[video=youtube;uOrpn3zIs5c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrpn3zIs5c[/video]

Listen around 14 minute..

@ OP : I don't know where you live but you are sorely mistaken about the mood about AAP and Kejari in general. No one seem to support him but his paid NGO workers who have been getting money from Ford foundation and what not for years.

Kaath ki handi bar bar nahi Chadhti.

 

[Gary777]

Onee chan tsuchi it was a bouncer for me specially the last sentence heh plz if u see this kindly translate it for me
But feels good india has more political entries except con n bjp battalions

 

[Avani]

Onee chan tsuchi it was a bouncer for me specially the last sentence heh plz if u see this kindly translate it for me
But feels good india has more political entries except con n bjp battalions

"You cannot use a wooden pot on fire a second time. " That would be the translation. lol\

It would be fine if it was a new entry not a puppet. Search PrajaRajyam Party and you will see a pattern.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kejriwaal failed because he acted like a douche lately, and btw, since our independence, it's the first time that some non congress govt. , BJP, came to power and that to it's the second time after 1984, that a stable govt. was formed. And there were like 10 or more parties who actually fought the elections, unlike America. As for China, the demand of full democracy is raising among the youths.

Problem with BJP is .. ran by old geezers who should've been long out of politics right now.