Inconsistency about Rasengan and Raikiri

[super yang]

There is no inconsistency; but minatos statements were only used by the author to illustrate kakashis growth in concert w/ his youthful genius.

The supposed ''drawback'' back to chidori has been long ignored - it never had any real merit.

chidori/raikiri doesn't make you faster or require that U sprint in a line ''anymore''(nor has it ever once the jutsu is mastered)

Not sure why U think rasengan has any relevance to chidori; it doesn't have any.

 

[Alastor]

Raikiri- Chakra blade which is used to pierce an opponent after charging at them

Rasengan - Spinning Chakra vortex used to pummel an opponent after charging at them

Raikiri was stated by Minato to be ineffective and banned due to it leaving the user incredibly open to counter attack

Why is rasengan not also falling under this category?

I bring this up because I have seen people mention that Kakashi can not use Raikiri anymore due to no sharingan, but that would mean Naruto couldn't use rasengan (base rasengan).

Because the speed of the Raikiri charge was too fast, Kakashi didn't have the reflexes to keep up with his own speed (until he got sharingan).

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[ANiMUS]

High speed isn't necessary for rasengan. The initial way that Kakashi used raikiri was as a charging attack where high speed was necessary, but as of recently Kakashi has shown the ability to use it even without traveling at high speed. He can also extend it. Kakashi might not be able to use the charging version of raikiri, but a normal one and the extended version should be just fine

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

The raikiri is a flash of lightning on the users hand. Since it's flashing, it's nearly impossible to see correctly unless you have the aid of the sharingan. That's why Kakashi shouldn't use it because he'll get tunnel vision and lose control. The rasengan doesn't have the big flashing light to blind you. That's the difference. Raikiri doesn't boost speed or anything like that.

Doesn't that also go with the third Raikage's move or the 4th's? Yet they can use it without sharingan.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Didn't guy already explain the mechanics behind chidori. Getz ppl read the magma

 

[Exaar]

Doesn't that also go with the third Raikage's move or the 4th's? Yet they can use it without sharingan.

I guess some peoples eyes can handle high speeds better than others and having an unnatural level of reflexes helps also.

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Naruto wasn't alive during the time Minato stated this.
At the time both techniques were used in vastly different ways.
One through space time ninjutsu and the other through raiton.
Kakashi's justu required speed and caused a linear path that blurred his peripheral which the sharingan negated with its pre-cog abilities.

And even now naruto has clones that act as a medium along with his enhanced reflexes and senses (which can even sense things on another plane of existence and negative emotions) not too mention his OP speed.

Not to mention it was about the chidori,not the raikiri which is the chidori perfected.
It doesn't have the loud bird chirping like sound that made it its original use by kakashi as a large tell for his opponents.

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what does naruto being alive has to do with anything? j-man was he learned it
naruto learned it way before sage mode and sensory feats
the jutsu should have all the same limits because raikiri is basically raiton rasengan
kakashi has both jutsu and clones meaning he can do the same with both