[Debate] In you opinion, is Anarchism a good idea?

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Anarchism is the desire for stateless societies that are self-governed.

Do you believe they are a good idea? Or even plausible?
 

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I guess so, it's subjective if you ask me. I would personally lean towards such a system considering how bad my country is in terms of usage of democracy.
 

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Nope. That's a recipe for a failed society. A society without rules or guidelines and enforcers will crumble. What happens when there's a war? What happens when there is an economic crisis? What happens if an extremely dangerous epidemic has broken out? What happens when there's a terrorist attack? Government is needed because people can't handle these things without one.

Anarchists are people who fail to realize that the solution isn't no government, but new government.
 

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I believe people must have rules and punishment enforced on them. Otherwise they will lose universally respected human morals. Rules steer people to adopt morals. Take the Internet for example, people don't face any consequences when they say or do horribly insulting or unethical things. People do what they would not normally do in life when they don't have consequences and rules.
 

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Nope. That's a recipe for a failed society. A society without rules or guidelines and enforcers will crumble. What happens when there's a war? What happens when there is an economic crisis? What happens if an extremely dangerous epidemic has broken out? What happens when there's a terrorist attack? Government is needed because people can't handle these things without one.

Anarchists are people who fail to realize that the solution isn't no government, but new government.

Have you been to any other country in yo life?
 

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What's the point you're getting to?

I'm saying that there are few countries who are fed up with these democratic govt. system, we need a change, from my own experience when we depend on a system that is so corrupted we would eventually lose belief in that system, it's natural if you ask me, when you solely beleive a person the percentage of of getting betrayed is much more.
 

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I'm saying that there are few countries who are fed up with these democratic govt. system, we need a change, from my own experience when we depend on a system that is so corrupted we would eventually lose belief in that system, it's natural if you ask me, when you solely beleive a person the percentage of of getting betrayed is much more.

Perhaps you should have read my post better.

the solution isn't no government, but new government.
 

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Perhaps you should have read my post better.

I'm not saying no to what you said bruh, in a democratic country people will decide who will run the govt. I'm a rational being and i will vote to a person who is more fitting, but the thing is the poor people who reside in my country gets easily fooled by bribery, in a country where people vote to a person who offers more money and drinks only during the election what else will you expect about the outcome? Will you tolerate such activities?
 

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I'm not saying no to what you said bruh, in a democratic country people will decide who will run the govt. I'm a rational being and i will vote to a person who is more fitting, but the thing is the poor people who reside in my country gets easily fooled by bribery, in a country where people vote to a person who offers more money and drinks only during the election what else will you expect about the outcome? Will you tolerate such activities?

Seems like the answer you want me to say is no, I'd want to do something about the government and make it change. That's not anarchy, that's revolution. Anarchy is no government period, which would never work as as soon as a major crisis breaks out, people will flock to find people who know how to handle it to take charge and handle it, which is essentially government again.
 

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Seems like the answer you want me to say is no, I'd want to do something about the government and make it change. That's not anarchy, that's revolution.

Exactly, anarchy and revolution aren't too different in terms of conceptual meaning, that is why i support this idea. The country where i'm living is rotting, as a rational human being i can see what's happening, that's why i support anarchism, i don't know what happens when the system changes, but i'm looking forward to it actually. Ya feel me?
 

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Exactly, anarchy and revolution aren't too different in terms of conceptual meaning, that is why i support this idea. The country where i'm living is rotting, as a rational human being i can see what's happening, that's why i support anarchism, i don't know what happens when the system changes, but i'm looking forward to it actually. Ya feel me?

Anarchy is the opposite to revolution, but motivated by the same catalyst. Anarchy is no government, revolution is new government. The only thing similar between them is that the old government is no longer there. You can't be a supporter of both anarchy and revolution. The former is a recipe for disaster, nationwide weakness and ultimately, failure. Anarchy isn't change, revolution is change. Anarchy is elimination of all governments.
 

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Exactly, anarchy and revolution aren't too different in terms of conceptual meaning, that is why i support this idea. The country where i'm living is rotting, as a rational human being i can see what's happening, that's why i support anarchism, i don't know what happens when the system changes, but i'm looking forward to it actually. Ya feel me?

They are different. Every revolution instills some new form of government. Anarchy is only wanted by social outcasts who throw molotov cocktails through windows and keyboard warriors. You can't have a system where everyone looks out for their own interests. It wouldn't work
 

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Well,70% of our actions are based on our morals so I don't really see the difference. .......
 

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They are different. Every revolution instills some new form of government. Anarchy is only wanted by social outcasts who throw molotov cocktails through windows and keyboard warriors. You can't have a system where everyone looks out for their own interests. It wouldn't work
Exactly. That'd lead to even more turmoil.
 

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Anarchy is the opposite to revolution, but motivated by the same catalyst. Anarchy is no government, revolution is new government. The only thing similar between them is that the old government is no longer there. You can't be a supporter of both anarchy and revolution. The former is a recipe for disaster, nationwide weakness and ultimately, failure. Anarchy isn't change, revolution is change. Anarchy is elimination of all governments.

Revolution isn't really a change, you won't know that you are successful until you are, revolution isn't really a new govt. it's just a system that appears to be different in the beginning, but when the things get settled and when it all seems ordinary, you would know that it wasn't really a revolution. As opposed to it, opposing a current corrupted govt doesn't seem to be a bad idea, we need change, with or without govt, because i'm not sure that SO CALLE GOVT. would do everything we want. Until then i beg for a change.
 

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Revolution isn't really a change, you won't know that you are successful until you are, revolution isn't really a new govt. it's just a system that appears to be different in the beginning, but when the things get settled and when it all seems ordinary, you would know that it wasn't really a revolution. As opposed to it, opposing a current corrupted govt doesn't seem to be a bad idea, we need change, with or without govt, because i'm not sure that SO CALLE GOVT. would do everything we want. Until then i beg for a change.
Your post is basically "Change in government won't work. When there's a corrupt government, I want a change in government."
 

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Your post is basically "Change in government won't work. When there's a corrupt government, I want a change in government."

True and not true at the same time.
 

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True and not true at the same time.

No exactly true. You want change in government, but dismiss revolution, which is changing government. You think change in government is accomplished by abolishing government completely, a process that accomplishes the opposite of what you want. Your outlook on this is a mess.
 
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