[Discussion] In theory, Madara could become invincible.

Senju Bean

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If Madara heightens his control over gravity, he would be able to make precise attacks at any location on an opponent's body.

He could use gravity crush to destroy someone's heart. He could turn someone's brain into mush just by thinking about it.



Great thing is that he doesn't even need to look at his opponent to kill them. Look at the image.
Madara levitated Sasuke without actually looking at him. Unlike Kamui, which you need someone in the field of vision first, gravity control doesn't at all.

Here madara may turned his eye, but he never turned his head around before Sasuke started floating.
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By honing his skills in Sage Mode, he could combine his sensing abilities along with gravity control to kill anyone.

First, sense where someone is hiding,

Second, lock on

Third, destroy the opponent's soft internal organs with gravity.



Of course he can't do all that now. But..

I say, give him a year or two to train, and also his second eye. Then he would hone his gravity control down to a precise surgical level.
 
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The guy uses telekinesis and everybody thinks it's gravity. He is not graviton, bro.
 

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Does it matter? He's becoming like a Jedi now. Gravity or not, this is amazing.

If he was using gravity, he could just increase the gravity arround someone so much that they would be crushed by their own weight, or at least they wouldn't even be able to move(like yamcha being owned by gravity).

But telekinesis is just pushing things foward or towards you, basically moving objects with his mind. He could aply a lot of force to his pushes, of course, like shinra tensei, but I think that's where it stops.

In the OP you described situations of gravity control. Very different.
 

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If he was using gravity, he could just increase the gravity arround someone so much that they would be crushed by their own weight, or at least they wouldn't even be able to move(like yamcha being owned by gravity).

But telekinesis is just pushing things foward or towards you, basically moving objects with his mind. He could aply a lot of force to his pushes, of course, like shinra tensei, but I think that's where it stops.

In the OP you described situations of gravity control. Very different.

No, if he has telekinesis, why can't he push someones organs? Or yank their brain stem?
 

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Was he not invincible with wood release... rinnegan.... and sage mode?
 

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No, if he has telekinesis, why can't he push someones organs? Or yank their brain stem?

Because telekinesis is limited, I guess. You can't use it on the insides of people. Maybe, you can't even use it on the objects inside a house unless you're in the house. So, it might be limited to what you see, Idk. It's hard to explain it considering it doesnt exist in real life and it changes the mechanics from universe to universe.
 

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No, if he has telekinesis, why can't he push someones organs? Or yank their brain stem?

Telekinesis can only work through gases (and maybe liquids). But if there is a solid object in between (e.g. a skull) then only that item can be moved.
But still he can effectively Hinata anyone/any attack lol
 

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It is insinuated that the ability that Madara used to freeze Sasuke in midair is a Deva Path ability, considering that this ability and abilities similar to this haven't been seen OUTSIDE of Nagato or his Deva Path abilities and Nagato is basically the only guy we have that has labeled any Rinnegan abilities.

Deva Path, is gravity control. NOT telekinesis. Nagato was able to use Shinra Tensei to repel objects using his body as the epicenter, and pull objects to him in the same matter.

That is gravity.

Now to the OP, I think this is a bit too imaginative and unlikely, only because it's not quite his fighting style. I can't really see this happening at all because it would require a type of fighting style not really known in this manga.

He also can't really "hone" his skills in Sage Mode, because he isn't a Sage. As of right now, he can only manage the Sage Chakra that he stole from Hashirama.
 

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Actually, Madara may have made eye contact with Sasuke
 

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In theory, Madara could become an ugly duckling with a bazooka beak, a Masters in asspulling and the most loved person on NB, with CoAT... so yeah... in theory, invincibility is not an issue.

Invulnerability neither, but his downfall will be arrogance...
 
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Well, he just did. He just did.

For different reason of course.
 

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Could be... but anyway Sage of six paths as Juubi Jin is still above him.

but to be honest Madara is indeed a god's level now... but anyway any feat of Madara or Obito's as juubi jin go to Sage of six paths's feats automatically.
 

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Could be... but anyway Sage of six paths as Juubi Jin is still above him.

but to be honest Madara is indeed a god's level now... but anyway any feat of Madara or Obito's as juubi jin go to Sage of six paths's feats automatically.

True.

Madara as Juubi Jin is v2 Rikudo

Hagaromo as Juubi Jin was v3 Rikudo


The more interesting question is, is pre Jin Hagaromo stronger than Juubi Jin Madara?
 
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