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The Alchemist

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Has no one learned that in the NArutoverse OP doesn't necessarily translate into victory?
Deidara had a jutsu that virtually vaporized into microscopic c4 that detonated within his opponents blood stream..
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He lost...
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Dnazo had Izanagi,
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Hashirama's DNA,
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And was an Elite shinobi who had survived the Second and Third Shinobi wars, and the Kyuubi's attack on Konoha (many people died that day). And guess what?..
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He lost... ( though I must say that Sasuke using a woman as a buffer was a shitty, and punk ass move on his part )
Remember Kakuzu? Hidan? The Edo Tensei's of the Shodai and Nidaime?
All of these people were far stronger than their opponents, yet their opponents had skills that were perfect matches making it possible for the "little guy" to win.
I mean look at how Sasuke defeated Oro; it's even been stated and agreed with by Sasuke himself that the only reason he beat Oro was because his arms were sealed.
The point I'm making is, no matter how OP you seem there is always a counter for it.
So no, NAruto isn't stronger than Edo Madara...
But he'll find a way to win.
 
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Obviously considering hes the main character he will win in the end but it will almost certainly be a victory aided by plot.
 

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Edo Madara shits on Naruto. This is manga fact. If you had a shred of common sense you can see that.
 

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Edo Madara shits on Naruto. This is manga fact. If you had a shred of common sense you can see that.

Reread the thread numb nuts. I stated that "no Naruto is not stronger than Edo MAdara", but when you follow the common thread of the over all story you find ( as I stated) that Power doesn't always equate to a victory.
 

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So you actually did agree with it and then said he'd win by plot, which we knew already :| sigh...
 

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Well good you're trying to prove you're point but before starting a post ask people few questions how to work on a thread xD
 

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like dante said , madara eats & shits naruto all day long , he's victory is only plot not logic
 

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Obviously considering hes the main character he will win in the end but it will almost certainly be a victory aided by plot.

ALL of the victories are "aided by plot", this is obvious. And no, I don't believe in that plot-no-jutsu BS.
 

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Edo Madara has more experience and more skills than Naruto... but he will be defeated nevertheless...Naruto has more stamina and more chakra reserves thanx to the 9-tails...
 

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ALL of the victories are "aided by plot", this is obvious. And no, I don't believe in that plot-no-jutsu BS.
Well then i apologize that you have a hard time realizing things are written in a way for the story to progress even if it means things happen that logically never should. Naruto killing Kakuzu is a perfect example of this.
 

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Ok before this thread gets out of hand i wil destroy it...
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Reread the thread numb nuts. I stated that "no Naruto is not stronger than Edo MAdara", but when you follow the common thread of the over all story you find ( as I stated) that Power doesn't always equate to a victory.

Plot advances aside MAdara would shit on NAruto in any kind of 1 on 1. Naruto will win in the manga and that is only because of help and some bs Kishi is about to pull. When people on the base talk on vs threads it is strictly 1 on 1 and the characters mindset will simply be on killing. There is no plot devices or storylines in vs threads. There is no Naruto will just find a way to win because Naruto has not shown any power or skill to win.

Naruto finding a way to win = plot no jutsu= manga

Naruto getting shitted on 1v1 = Logic = vs threads.
 

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like dante said , madara eats & shits naruto all day long , he's victory is only plot not logic

It takes logic to construct the plot of such a popular Manga. Logically Sasuke, Sakura, Naruto, Kakashi, hell everyone featured in part one, should be dead because they all faced opponents far stronger and with far more unique abilities; hell the only reason Sasuke is alive is because of the embedded plot twist of Itachi being a good guy. We needed to believe he was evil up until it was convenient to show otherwise, that sir is plot, so STFU about plot versus logic, because the plot IS the logic behind the story, without it the manga would be fairly short and predictable don't you think?
 

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It takes logic to construct the plot of such a popular Manga. Logically Sasuke, Sakura, Naruto, Kakashi, hell everyone featured in part one, should be dead because they all faced opponents far stronger and with far more unique abilities; hell the only reason Sasuke is alive is because of the embedded plot twist of Itachi being a good guy. We needed to believe he was evil up until it was convenient to show otherwise, that sir is plot, so STFU about plot versus logic, because the plot IS the logic behind the story, without it the manga would be fairly short and predictable don't you think?


You sir just won a fan. xD
 

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Plot advances aside MAdara would shit on NAruto in any kind of 1 on 1. Naruto will win in the manga and that is only because of help and some bs Kishi is about to pull. When people on the base talk on vs threads it is strictly 1 on 1 and the characters mindset will simply be on killing. There is no plot devices or storylines in vs threads. There is no Naruto will just find a way to win because Naruto has not shown any power or skill to win.

Naruto finding a way to win = plot no jutsu= manga

Naruto getting shitted on 1v1 = Logic = vs threads.

This isn't a versus thread shit head. and the "logic" is the over all story. *thinks to himself* someone needs to take up Eng Lit and Creative Writing classes.
 

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I'm so tired of you people making any excuse for sasuke to win his fights... So what Karin healed him a little bit here and there when he fought Danzo. It's not like she really stepped in and fought him with Sasuke. Sasuke took on that WHOLE battle on his own, All karin did was provide intel. That's what you have sensors for, Naruto gets help like that all the time. Sasuke can handle his own very well.

And it's not like he asks for it, he just goes in and takes the enemy out and that's it.
 
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