Important Fact cleared, or Left Unexplained in 676

[NaruSasuRival]

Well, I am sorry if you think I am being a bother here. I just like to make think clear when we have spent a week having arguments. So, two fact were left unexplained in chapter 676, and the base did not address them. So, I will address them myself.

1. Sasuke's eye is still the same!

If you have good memory, you know that Sasuke's left eye was closed in previous chapter and even at the beginning of this chapter 676. Logical people like myself speculated that Sasuke was having trouble with his eye either because he is not use to it, or because it was tiring him - especially given that Obito gave a lengthy explanation on how Rinnegan power can be uncontrollable.

Unlike me, Sasuke fanboys said he was doing some magic in preparation for Madara's return in order to have badass power-up.

676 showed that Sasuke opened his eyes, and the only thing he did was to see Limbo and use Susanoo, which he already did before. Unless I am being impatient, I think Sasuke was simply saving chakra, especially given that the two chapters have the same title - Sasuke's Rinnegan.

2. Madara's horns

The second issue is Madara's horns. As we can see below, the horn have not changed despite having two Rinnegan.

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Could this be the sign of a certain imperfection in Madara's self-proclaimed power? Could it be that Madara did not reach Hagoromo's status? Is he lacking something.

3. Body Language can tell!

Yeah, I am talking about body language. If you have read chapter 675 and 676, you can see two distincts body language - that of Sasuke and that of Naruto.

In general, Naruto seems more cool-headed and composed like a real boss who does not care about whatever Madara can throw on him. In fact, Naruto acts as he said - that is he can do everything.

Naruto goofing while Sasuke is depressed about the enemy

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Sasuke almost crying about the threat while Naruto is appreciating the scale of the CT

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Now, don't think I am being mean to Sasuke. If you are reading the same manga as me with attention to details, you will see that Sasuke feels insecure. On the other hand, Naruto's behavior is understandable. He can pretty much predict what decision an opponent will take when focusing on them.

Naruto knew Madara was going to stab Sakura by using precognition

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Naruto's sensing is off the chart - fighting an invisible enemy (unless he can see them now) with precision

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4. Who is the leader now

Yeah, who is the leader now. In this session, I am calling everyone to a vote. In chapter 676, I think I saw the true leader, and the true boss on the battlefield. Sasuke was almost about to run away both due to the number of Madara's shadow and also to the number of CT. In fact, Sasuke's method of stoping Chubaku Tensei cannot stop it because he does not destroy the core. Only explosion can destroy the core - Itachi is still boss even dead.

Next, Sasuke failed to save Sakura though he was the one to dash in the first.

Finally, Naruto was the one to take charge by telling Sasuke to leave Madara's shadows to him when Sasuke freaked out. Well, I think Naruto was a true leader in chapter 676. He was simultaneously reassuring Sasuke and Sakura, giving the tasks for the fight, fighting the shadows and blowing the boulders - all at the same time.


Please give your share, and write whatever I missed. As reminder, I am a Naruto fan.

 

[ObitoKarin]

I mean, the manga is called NARUTO.

But I did enjoy your argument, well thought out and everything PLUS evidence.

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Naruto has fought against the rinnegan multiple times and he is not phased by it. This is Sasuke's first battle fighting someone with rinnegan. This is why Naruto seems more calm and carefree during the battle whereas Sasuke is on edge (as he should be).

 

[ANiMUS]

Well, I am sorry if you think I am being a bother here. I just like to make think clear when we have spent a week having arguments. So, two fact were left unexplained in chapter 676, and the base did not address them. So, I will address them myself.

1. Sasuke's eye is still the same!

If you have good memory, you know that Sasuke's left eye was closed in previous chapter and even at the beginning of this chapter 676. Logical people like myself speculated that Sasuke was having trouble with his eye either because he is not use to it, or because it was tiring him - especially given that Obito gave a lengthy explanation on how Rinnegan power can be uncontrollable.

Unlike me, Sasuke fanboys said he was doing some magic in preparation for Madara's return in order to have badass power-up.

676 showed that Sasuke opened his eyes, and the only thing he did was to see Limbo and use Susanoo, which he already did before. Unless I am being impatient, I think Sasuke was simply saving chakra, especially given that the two chapters have the same title - Sasuke's Rinnegan.

2. Madara's horns

The second issue is Madara's horns. As we can see below, the horn have not changed despite having two Rinnegan.

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Could this be the sign of a certain imperfection in Madara's self-proclaimed power? Could it be that Madara did not reach Hagoromo's status? Is he lacking something.

3. Body Language can tell!

Yeah, I am talking about body language. If you have read chapter 675 and 676, you can see two distincts body language - that of Sasuke and that of Naruto.

In general, Naruto seems more cool-headed and composed like a real boss who does not care about whatever Madara can throw on him. In fact, Naruto acts as he said - that is he can do everything.

Naruto goofing while Sasuke is depressed about the enemy

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Sasuke almost crying about the threat while Naruto is appreciating the scale of the CT

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Now, don't think I am being mean to Sasuke. If you are reading the same manga as me with attention to details, you will see that Sasuke feels insecure. On the other hand, Naruto's behavior is understandable. He can pretty much predict what decision an opponent will take when focusing on them.

Naruto knew Madara was going to stab Sakura by using precognition

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Naruto's sensing is off the chart - fighting an invisible enemy (unless he can see them now) with precision

Spoiler

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4. Who is the leader now

Yeah, who is the leader now. In this session, I am calling everyone to a vote. In chapter 676, I think I saw the true leader, and the true boss on the battlefield. Sasuke was almost about to run away both due to the number of Madara's shadow and also to the number of CT. In fact, Sasuke's method of stoping Chubaku Tensei cannot stop it because he does not destroy the core. Only explosion can destroy the core - Itachi is still boss even dead.

Next, Sasuke failed to save Sakura though he was the one to dash in the first.

Finally, Naruto was the one to take charge by telling Sasuke to leave Madara's shadows to him when Sasuke freaked out. Well, I think Naruto was a true leader in chapter 676. He was simultaneously reassuring Sasuke and Sakura, giving the tasks for the fight, fighting the shadows and blowing the boulders - all at the same time.


Please give your share, and write whatever I missed. As reminder, I am a Naruto fan.

Sasuke was just conserving ever bit of chakra he could for fighting Madara, no biggy he doesn't wanna underestimate Madara

Hagoromo said Madara was almost his equal so Madara still< Hagoromo

Sasuke was the one that ran after Sakura to back her up. He took on a limbo in attempt to keep her from getting further injured there was a Limbo that was right next to her

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There wasn't any opening for Sasuke to strike in the first place

Naruto in the last chapter was being his usual self (he is a little stupid, not a serious person)

Sasuke was the one alerting Naruto to the Limbos because he is the only person who could see the limbos.

Sasuke was slicing the CT so that Sakura and Kakashi wouldn't die.

Naruto and Sasuke worked as a team in this chapter and I can tell perfectly well that you r a very biased Naruto fan. Is that what u were going for?

 

[TRE MERCER]

He still didn't explain how Obito couldn't get in the Kamui realm but Madara could.

 

[~Dream~]

Naruto has fought against the rinnegan multiple times and he is not phased by it. This is Sasuke's first battle fighting someone with rinnegan. This is why Naruto seems more calm and carefree during the battle whereas Sasuke is on edge (as he should be).

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I mean, the manga is called NARUTO.

But I did enjoy your argument, well thought out and everything PLUS evidence.

and this

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Didn't madara praise Sasuke saying he has great battle sense ans can analyze any situation and keep calm. I believe Sasuke was just saving charka in his eye. Because unlike naruto Sasuke doesn't waste charka or let his guard down. Naruto was amazed at the CT in the sky completely disregarding the shadows. Sasuke has great battle sense and isn't insecure at all.

 

[xXVergiliusXx]

Naruto has fought against the rinnegan multiple times and he is not phased by it. This is Sasuke's first battle fighting someone with rinnegan. This is why Naruto seems more calm and carefree during the battle whereas Sasuke is on edge (as he should be).

Naruto never fought the invisible Madaras and he's tanking them and the huge chibaku tensei like a boss, Sasuke was pretty much useless right now

 

[Reflection]

Naruto has fought against the rinnegan multiple times and he is not phased by it. This is Sasuke's first battle fighting someone with rinnegan. This is why Naruto seems more calm and carefree during the battle whereas Sasuke is on edge (as he should be).

Well, they both fought Juubito, but I see what you mean. Naruto has fought far more against the rinne than Sausage.

 

[Versatile jutsu]

great analyze

Naruto never fought the invisible Madaras and he's tanking them and the huge chibaku tensei like a boss, Sasuke was pretty much useless right now

pretty much this.

 

[OWanime]

yeah naruto has seen it many times and plus he's overwhelmed madara once before he absorbed kaguya so he doesn't feel too scared xd

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

lmao

creative way to diss sasuke

we can simply interpret this as naruto being immature, dumb, or over confident and sasuke being careful isn't depression so far sasuke has been giving out order to much fail in your post i won't even bother finishing

 

[Spaldox]

Your great and powerful leader naruto was unable to control sakura's heroic act of charging head on which resulted in "commander" naruto to comment with "wait". No leader should have to tell a foot soldier to WAIT.

Sasuke was far too busy not giving a damn about the chibaku tensei boulders and was more focused on the real threat of madara's shadow.

 

[Draven]

Before i go into detail on my point on this im gonna reiterate im not a sasuke or a naruto fanboy i think both are badass equals.

Naruto has fought Rinnegin users twice now hes more level headed because of that plus hes got the 9 bijuus gathering natural energy for him and he draws the bijuus chakra as well so no real reason to conserve energy.

Sasuke on the other hand hasnt fought anyone with double eye rinnegan before so hes a little more cautious and he had to close his eye to conserve chakra and let his eye rest since hes probably not use to it yet.

Neither in my eyes is stronger then the other i would say they are on equal footing from what we have seen so far.
and OT think about this all we have seen so far is Sasukes susanoo flying we havent seen him unload with any kind of power from it give it time before you count him out.

 

[Oksus]

Naruto is not taking it seriously enough IMO U_U

He only got serious once Sakura already got stabbed.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Yep. you are dissing Sasuke. The way I see it. He's just being careful and Observant. Naruto is simply doing the same old goofing routine. Plus take a look at that page where madara does the chibaku tensei. Naruto is like in awe about madara's technique. And sasuke is like " I'm more woried about the madara's i cant see.

 

[Cael]

Truth hurts

 

[Harry Balzac]

The horns were only a headband to protect the eye. It didn't seem to reflect anything.

 

[wanderingcactus]

Haha Sasuke bash thread?

I dont like being one sided.

Sasuke is a genius. Hes figuring things out. Especially since the rinnegan is new to him and that hes saving his chakra. Check out the chapters when he first used the MS and EMS. He always wore himself out and that he is trying to figure out everything in one go.

Madara could be incomplete or that thats how Kishi designed his look and didnt want to remake another look. Also, he looked more like Hagos brother IMO, which is half of Kaguyas power.

As stated before, Sasuke is known for being serious while Naruto being a goofball. This has been established since the beginning of the series. Second, Naruto wouldnt give a hoot about things since they already made up whos going to give orders. Team 7 has always relied on Sasuke making the decisions and Naruto usually finishes it. So its Part 1 all over again. Narutos carefree since hes got Sasuke doing all the strategy for him. As for the CT and Limbo. Naruto now has experience dealing with the Limbo and as well as multiple enemies. Since he has Shadow Clones and sensory mode, he can now be able to pinpoint where the Limbo is. If you have reference points, yiu can figure out where it is. Like an object is inside a triangle but where is its coordinates? Easy. If you know the distance of the corners vs the object then you can tell where it is. Its used my seismicologists for pinpointing earthquakes.
Sasuke also is trying to get to Madara and perhaps cast the genjutsu himself.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Haha Sasuke bash thread?

I dont like being one sided.

Sasuke is a genius. Hes figuring things out. Especially since the rinnegan is new to him and that hes saving his chakra. Check out the chapters when he first used the MS and EMS. He always wore himself out and that he is trying to figure out everything in one go.

Madara could be incomplete or that thats how Kishi designed his look and didnt want to remake another look. Also, he looked more like Hagos brother IMO, which is half of Kaguyas power.

As stated before, Sasuke is known for being serious while Naruto being a goofball. This has been established since the beginning of the series. Second, Naruto wouldnt give a hoot about things since they already made up whos going to give orders. Team 7 has always relied on Sasuke making the decisions and Naruto usually finishes it. So its Part 1 all over again. Narutos carefree since hes got Sasuke doing all the strategy for him. As for the CT and Limbo. Naruto now has experience dealing with the Limbo and as well as multiple enemies. Since he has Shadow Clones and sensory mode, he can now be able to pinpoint where the Limbo is. If you have reference points, yiu can figure out where it is. Like an object is inside a triangle but where is its coordinates? Easy. If you know the distance of the corners vs the object then you can tell where it is. Its used my seismicologists for pinpointing earthquakes.
Sasuke also is trying to get to Madara and perhaps cast the genjutsu himself.

I have seen Naruto fight many battle, and he is never a goofball in a serious battle. Against Gaara, Kakuzu, Pain, and even Haku, Naruto never play in a serious situation. My point here is that there is only one reason why Sasuke would be worried about the number of enemy. It is the same reason anyone would be worried. This reason is that there is a threat that is unresolved.

Next, you need to see that Sasuke never recovered from MS downfall till he got blind. The effect got worse and worse. Concerning EMS, there were eyes implanted, thus it made sense to be used to them. Yet, he never closed his eyes after he remove the bandage. On the other hand, the new eye is awakened, not implanted. It is rather acting like MS.

Also, I said in my thread that I was clearing some facts. My argument is a speculation based on usage of eyes by people who should not be having the eye in the first place. Rinnegan is not an eye fit for an Uchiha body. You need to have Hagoromo's body to use it. This makes perfect sense to question Sasuke's aptitude to control it - especially when Obito is addressing the issue. I am not bashing Sasuke at all. I am simply coining the opposite view because his fans are already spamming unjustified view that have no basis.