IMO, Naruto (character) has lost his feeling of inspiration

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This may be controversial but i feel like Naruto's character is at his best whenever Sasuke isn't around. Does anybody remember how he was in the Pain invasion arc?
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That look gives a sense of great determination and unpredictability, all the things that Naruto's character stands for. In the Pain arc, he was strictly down to business, no side jokes, no lack of concentration, his mind was set on fighting pain which is why i think that that battle vs Pain was his main highlight throughout the whole series. This was the point where Naruto had surpassed his master and was fully pursuing his ideals.

But now that Sasuke has arrived on the battlefield, Naruto's character has completely lost that feeling to me. Compared to a few chapters ago when Naruto was performing ingenious tactics created by Kakashi, it seems that everything Naruto is doing is just reckless. He's joking around and making silly faces in the middle of the battlefield when there is a huge battle going on. Naruto and co have been in danger from Obito's attacks too many times recently.

When he is around Sasuke it doesn't seem like the same character from the Pain invasion. He doesn't seem as determined and not as serious and strong willed as he was in the Pain fight. I as a fan don't receive that same feeling of inspiration from his character that I used to back in the earlier stages of Part 1. When he was with Bee, that's when i felt that feeling.

Does anyone else feel like this?
 
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Like I always say, the Naruto fans can talk crap all they want but they know the truth.
When Sasuke is around Naruto is a fodder.
 

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well he had more motivation with pein
villiage was destroyed
jirayia was killed
etc
and you have to realize this isnt really naruto's fight its more of kakashi and minato's fight and naruto really doesnt even know obito at all
but with pein that whole scenario revolved directly around him
next
sasuke throws naruto off his game
we all have that one person that can change our whole atmosphere and additude for whatever reason
and sasuke is that one person for naruto
 
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wait and kishi give naruto pure badassery
 

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This may be controversial but i feel like Naruto's character is at his best whenever Sasuke isn't around. Does anybody remember how he was in the Pain invasion arc?
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That look gives a sense of great determination and unpredictability, all the things that Naruto's character stands for. In the Pain arc, he was strictly down to business, no side jokes, no lack of concentration, his mind was set on fighting pain which is why i think that that battle vs Pain was his main highlight throughout the whole series. This was the point where Naruto had surpassed his master and was fully pursuing his ideals.

But now that Sasuke has arrived on the battlefield, Naruto's character has completely lost that feeling to me. Compared to a few chapters ago when Naruto was performing ingenious tactics created by Kakashi, it seems that everything Naruto is doing is just reckless. He's joking around and making silly faces in the middle of the battlefield when there is a huge battle going on. Naruto and co have been in danger from Obito's attacks too many times recently.

When he is around Sasuke it doesn't seem like the same character from the Pain invasion. He doesn't seem as determined and not as serious and strong willed as he was in the Pain fight. I as a fan don't receive that same feeling of inspiration from his character that I used to back in the earlier stages of Part 1. When he was with Bee, that's when i felt that feeling.

Does anyone else feel like this?

That is because they compete against each other
 

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Agreed.

Especially the comedic relieves are pathetic considering the situation of the battlefield.
If you lose; you are ****ed; that simple.
He lost Neji; a comrade half hour ago, thousands are dying; what is with the silly faces and stuff? I know it is a shounen manga but a war should not look like a joke from viewer's perception. Chuunin exams or land of waves arc was giving more of the tension of a battle ffs.
 

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Like I always say, the Naruto fans can talk crap all they want but they know the truth.
When Sasuke is around Naruto is a fodder.

Well...Naruto fans say the same about Sausage kun U_U


And I do agree, Kishi messed Naruto up in the last 4-5 months.
 

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it's kishimoto's writing style that trolls naruto each time he's either around an uchiha or facing one,it feels like if kishimoto wants to hype up an uchiha he has to downplay naruto,first it was against nagato where he couldn't sense him and what's worse he got caught by a cripple,why just to get saved by itachi!
later against obito,facing such an oppenent the obvious strategy is using lots of clones,nope you don't.
then when madara comes,how to show up the wood dragon power?troll full BM naruto,as if BM naruto couldn't get past it with his speed aloneZzz.
and finally with sasuke,no need to comment.
it feels like kishimoto doesn't really care about naruto's character anymore,instead of progressing him he made him the carpet that he uses to keep other characters hype,he even took a huge dump on his character just to maintain a pairing.
 

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it's kishimoto's writing style that trolls naruto each time he's either around an uchiha or facing one,it feels like if kishimoto wants to hype up an uchiha he has to downplay naruto,first it was against nagato where he couldn't sense him and what's worse he got caught by a cripple,why just to get saved by itachi!
later against obito,facing such an oppenent the obvious strategy is using lots of clones,nope you don't.
then when madara comes,how to show up the wood dragon power?troll full BM naruto,as if BM naruto couldn't get past it with his speed aloneZzz.
and finally with sasuke,no need to comment.
it feels like kishimoto doesn't really care about naruto's character anymore,instead of progressing him he made him the carpet that he uses to keep other characters hype,he even took a huge dump on his character just to maintain a pairing.

Really? I feel Kakashi has been more of that role throughout the series.

-He struggled against Kakuzu to hype Naruto defeating him
-He lost to Itachi to hype Itachi's genjutsu skills
-He lost to Pain to hype his strength against Naruto
-And now it's likely that he will lose to Obito as well now
 

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what the difference ?.. you bash naruto because only hes main character?

No, I mean since Minato is not the main character, he never gave off that 'inspirational' vibe so he has nothing to lose.
 

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it's kishimoto's writing style that trolls naruto each time he's either around an uchiha or facing one,it feels like if kishimoto wants to hype up an uchiha he has to downplay naruto,first it was against nagato where he couldn't sense him and what's worse he got caught by a cripple,why just to get saved by itachi!
later against obito,facing such an oppenent the obvious strategy is using lots of clones,nope you don't.
then when madara comes,how to show up the wood dragon power?troll full BM naruto,as if BM naruto couldn't get past it with his speed aloneZzz.
and finally with sasuke,no need to comment.
it feels like kishimoto doesn't really care about naruto's character anymore,instead of progressing him he made him the carpet that he uses to keep other characters hype,he even took a huge dump on his character just to maintain a pairing.

Nice post. I agree with this guy. Esp. the last sentence.

Sometimes i think few characters got into such insane power scales that they need to get plot device of trolling to fail or losing the upper hand. It was the same for Naruto; he got insane boosts; yet he is getting "blond" moments for the sake of keeping the pace. Manga should have focused the development of "characteristics" more than development of power...and Uchihas. Dem Uchihas.
And Naruto does not know how to utilize high speed in a fight at a good potential. That's why his "speed" does not get trolled.
 
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That's the problem with this series sometimes...

They try to put humour in such a tense situation, not to say it doesn't work cos One piece and Bleach do it too but at boss levels even they tone it down and give the main protagonist the character that is needed. (Determined /Serious)

In Naruto it looks kinda childish when one person is just there: talking for so long and having flashbacks Lol
 

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It's how his character is. He is stale.

Anything really different from him now would seem odd from a character perspective.
 

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Like I always say, the Naruto fans can talk crap all they want but they know the truth.
When Sasuke is around Naruto is a fodder.

Fodder is Sasuke middle Name. Just keep reading the Manga and see Sasuke drop His Mouth wide open ones Naruto is fully powered up.
 

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it's kishimoto's writing style that trolls naruto each time he's either around an uchiha or facing one,it feels like if kishimoto wants to hype up an uchiha he has to downplay naruto,first it was against nagato where he couldn't sense him and what's worse he got caught by a cripple,why just to get saved by itachi!
later against obito,facing such an oppenent the obvious strategy is using lots of clones,nope you don't.
then when madara comes,how to show up the wood dragon power?troll full BM naruto,as if BM naruto couldn't get past it with his speed aloneZzz.
and finally with sasuke,no need to comment.
it feels like kishimoto doesn't really care about naruto's character anymore,instead of progressing him he made him the carpet that he uses to keep other characters hype,he even took a huge dump on his character just to maintain a pairing.
  1. naruto save itachi too
  2. naruto not joke with tobirama
  3. naruto was rtired for use many clones
  4. naruto was tired for use his speed
  5. you preffer to see only little bad things about naruto
 
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