imagine if naruto fused sasuke's chakra aka indra's with his on...

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And instead of getting rinegan he get's something completly different. say for each transmigrant when you fuse your chakra with the significant other they would unlock a complete new ability separate form the other.
Like say madara got six paths just as his on power
sasuke unlocked a whole different ability and obviously there is more dimensions to it he just haven't had enough time.

I saw the new ova called POWER where naruto has the sharingan mixed with his sage abilities and it looked totally beautiful..

and i thought what if that was a by product of mixing indras cause it would be so boring if he was to get the rinne to ya know.

and i figured since sasuke and madara have different power yet both form the sage directly and indirectly respectively, how cool would it be for hashirama and naruto would have two different by products of fusing the opposites power's with their own.

and i know hashi would be sooo op as well as naruto especially with his PU but that's the point. madara with hashi's dna was well above hashirama and the other kages AND naruto and sasuske individually. so think about that and tell me what you would feel seeing hashi and naruto with their respective opposites power!!!
 

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Only Indra's transmigrant can awaken Rinnegan. It's why a stone tablet was left specially for the uchiha to warn them about taking Ashura DNA. The tablet was later altered by BZ to mislead the uchiha.
 

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False.

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Thank you for those scans.

BZ said he was convinced that Madara would be able to awaken the rinnegan; NOT Hashirama. He obviously needed to approach both transmigrants to stir up conflict between them. Madara needed Hashirama to awaken rinnegan. Indra needed Ashura to awaken Rinnegan. The scans you posted confirmed that Madara was the one with the potential to awaken rinnegan.

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The above scan states that Hagaromo left the tablet to warn Indra's transmigrants about awakening the rinnegan. He left no tablet for Ashura's transmigrants because they are unable to awaken rinnegan.
 

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Thank you for those scans.

BZ said he was convinced that Madara would be able to awaken the rinnegan; NOT Hashirama. He obviously needed to approach both transmigrants to stir up conflict between them. Madara needed Hashirama to awaken rinnegan. Indra needed Ashura to awaken Rinnegan. The scans you posted confirmed that Madara was the one with the potential to awaken rinnegan.

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The above scan states that Hagaromo left the tablet to warn Indra's transmigrants about awakening the rinnegan. He left no tablet for Ashura's transmigrants because they are unable to awaken rinnegan.
Nah, either can. It's the same thing, mixing chakra to create Hagoromo's. It's also proven that you don't need Sharingan as one of Madara's eyes were blind. He obviously chose the Indra transmigration as they were easier to "manipulate" with their hatred taking control most of the time.
 

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Nah, either can. It's the same thing, mixing chakra to create Hagoromo's. It's also proven that you don't need Sharingan as one of Madara's eyes were blind. He obviously chose the Indra transmigration as they were easier to "manipulate" with their hatred taking control most of the time.
If Ashura's transmigrant could have awakened rinnegan then Hagaromo would left a tablet for them as well. Yet he didn't.

Why do you think Kabuto wanted Sasuke's body instead of Naruto's to discover the secrets of the Sage. Kabuto stated that he "needed" Sasuke.

Why was Hashirama DNA injected into Edo Madara's boob instead of Injecting Madara DNA into Edo Hashirama boob?

Why was Madara's body researched when trying to discover the Sage's power?

Why was BZ sure that Madara could awaken rinnegan while he didn't even comment on Hashirama.

If you think its all coincidence then its pointless for me to continue.

Remember, "Uchiha are masters of the eyes."
 

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If Ashura's transmigrant could have awakened rinnegan then Hagaromo would left a tablet for them as well. Yet he didn't.

Why do you think Kabuto wanted Sasuke's body instead of Naruto's to discover the secrets of the Sage. Kabuto stated that he "needed" Sasuke.

Why was Hashirama DNA injected into Edo Madara's boob instead of Injecting Madara DNA into Edo Hashirama boob?

Why was Madara's body researched when trying to discover the Sage's power?

Why was BZ sure that Madara could awaken rinnegan while he didn't even comment on Hashirama.

If you think its all coincidence then its pointless for me to continue.
The tablet wasn't about awakening the Rinnegan in the first place, he was trying to prevent power-hunger people from doing it. Look at what happened when Madara awakened it, he summoned the Gedou Mazou.

Sasuke was the last Uchiha alive that he could get to, the eyes read the Uchiha tablet. The other theory was Uchiha + Senju DNA, and the Rinnegan was the final level of the Sharingan, but that has been proven false.

Kabuto improve Madara's body giving him more power over Mokuton, and in general.. Adding Madara's face to Hashirama would accomplish nothing.

What? Kabuto desired to see some of the Sage's power from Edo Madara, he hypothesised Madara had awakened the Rinnegan.

I stated before, it was easier to get the "unstable, power-hungry, 'evil'" Indra transmigration, than the happy and fine Ashura transmigration.
 

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The tablet wasn't about awakening the Rinnegan in the first place, he was trying to prevent power-hunger people from doing it. Look at what happened when Madara awakened it, he summoned the Gedou Mazou.

Sasuke was the last Uchiha alive that he could get to, the eyes read the Uchiha tablet. The other theory was Uchiha + Senju DNA, and the Rinnegan was the final level of the Sharingan, but that has been proven false.

Kabuto improve Madara's body giving him more power over Mokuton, and in general.. Adding Madara's face to Hashirama would accomplish nothing.

What? Kabuto desired to see some of the Sage's power from Edo Madara, he hypothesised Madara had awakened the Rinnegan.

I stated before, it was easier to get the "unstable, power-hungry, 'evil'" Indra transmigration, than the happy and fine Ashura transmigration.
Its easier to die by falling into a volcano filled with lava than by falling from a three story building. It doesn't mean that its impossible to die by falling from a 3 story building.

Hagaromo left the tablet to warn Indra's transmigrants about awakening the rinnegan. It says so in the panel I posted earlier.

Hagaromo never considered it as a possibility for Ashura to awaken the rinnegan.

Kabuto never considered it a possibility for Naruto to awaken the rinnegan. He wanted Sasuke and not Naruto. Naruto is related to the senju through his uzumaki lineage. Naruto is also Ashura's transmigrant. If he thought that Naruto was capable of awakening rinnegan he would have gone after him too. Yet he didn't.

BZ only considered Madara as the one who had the potential to awaken the rinnegan.


Uchiha are masters of the eyes.

Rinnegan is a dojutsu.
 

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Its easier to die by falling into a volcano filled with lava than by falling from a three story building. It doesn't mean that its impossible to die by falling from a 3 story building.

Hagaromo left the tablet to warn Indra's transmigrants about awakening the rinnegan. It says so in the panel I posted earlier.

Hagaromo never considered it as a possibility for Ashura to awaken the rinnegan.

Kabuto never considered it a possibility for Naruto to awaken the rinnegan. He wanted Sasuke and not Naruto. Naruto is related to the senju through his uzumaki lineage. Naruto is also Ashura's transmigrant. If he thought that Naruto was capable of awakening rinnegan he would have gone after him too. Yet he didn't.

BZ only considered Madara as the one who had the potential to awaken the rinnegan.


Uchiha are masters of the eyes.

Rinnegan is a dojutsu.
I'll reply to these, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

"So people could reconsider." Sounds like trying to prevent it to me.

Because their personalities were completely different, something more unknown obviously happened with Indra that we don't know about.

I know that, he wanted to use Hashirama's DNA on Sasuke who had the EMS because it was hypothesised to be the stage after EMS. As I said, it's proven wrong and is unrelated.

I also said about this too, the other transmigrations failed, weather it was because they lacked the ability, or resolve to carry it out or whatever. How would someone like Hashirama be tempted? That's illogical.

I agree with the bottom two points, although Nagato was the most versatile via feats.
 

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I'll reply to these, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

"So people could reconsider." Sounds like trying to prevent it to me.

Because their personalities were completely different, something more unknown obviously happened with Indra that we don't know about.

I know that, he wanted to use Hashirama's DNA on Sasuke who had the EMS because it was hypothesised to be the stage after EMS. As I said, it's proven wrong and is unrelated.

I also said about this too, the other transmigrations failed, weather it was because they lacked the ability, or resolve to carry it out or whatever. How would someone like Hashirama be tempted? That's illogical.

I agree with the bottom two points, although Nagato was the most versatile via feats.
Ok.

I can agree to disagree. However, you should look closely at what BZ said. He said that he was certain that Madara was "capable" of awakening the Rinnegan. He never said that he considered both of them as capable; only Madara. This is the key point. If he went after Madara because he was easier to manipulate, he would have said so. Instead, BZ says that he went after Madara because he was "capable" of awakening rinnegan.

Neither did BZ or Hagoromo consider it a remote possibility that Ashura could awaken Rinnegan.

Uchiha are called masters of the eyes for a reason. Ashura's transmigrants can't awaken rinnegan; only Indra can.
 

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If Ashura's transmigrant could have awakened rinnegan then Hagaromo would left a tablet for them as well. Yet he didn't.

Why do you think Kabuto wanted Sasuke's body instead of Naruto's to discover the secrets of the Sage. Kabuto stated that he "needed" Sasuke.

Why was Hashirama DNA injected into Edo Madara's boob instead of Injecting Madara DNA into Edo Hashirama boob?

Why was Madara's body researched when trying to discover the Sage's power?

Why was BZ sure that Madara could awaken rinnegan while he didn't even comment on Hashirama.

If you think its all coincidence then its pointless for me to continue.

Remember, "Uchiha are masters of the eyes."
Likely because of one thing.

Ashura and Indra's successors have one thing in common.

Indra's successors go one way alone with Asura's trying to bring them back as a comrade. Indra and his successors are all about power, and ACTUALLY would take Asura's chakra to gain more.

Gaining Indra's power and going into exile is not something known Asura successors (Hashirama and Naruto) are known to do, so none of them have had any personal reasons to try to awaken the Rinnegan, preferring to fight using their own mettle and their comrades.

However, Asura's successors did not do everything to achieve power. The post clearly insinuates both could awaken Rinnegan. I don't see why it would be impossible.

As noted, Black Zetsu altered the tablet anyway. We actually have no idea what it said before. And we know Indra reincarnations to be more easily manipulated. I mean Indra's whole clan just loves being led on for revenge.
 

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Only Indra's transmigrant can awaken Rinnegan. It's why a stone tablet was left specially for the uchiha to warn them about taking Ashura DNA. The tablet was later altered by BZ to mislead the uchiha.
Black Zetsu had mentioned how he approached transmigrates from both clans to awaken Rinnegan. Before then, Hagoromo mentioned how both chakras had to be assimilated into one transmigrate vessel to awaken Rinnegan. It just so happened that an Uchiha ended up doing it. They aren't the only ones that were/are capable of doing it. Technically, Naruto is able to awaken a Rinnegan as well.
 
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