Imagine how OP might guy would be if he recieved.........................

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rikoudo's chakra.

Kakashi who's a lot weaker than might guy became powerful enough to join naruto and sasuke in battle against kaguya through obito's sharingan which was augmented by the sages chakra when obito became the 10 tails jinchuriki,just imagine what might guy would have been able to do if his abilities etc were enhanced by the sages chakra.......I don't mean to sound like I'm over exaggerating or anything but he almost killed jubidara and if he received the sages chakra I reckon he could kill kaguya by himself.
 

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rikoudo's chakra.

Kakashi who's a lot weaker than might guy became powerful enough to join naruto and sasuke in battle against kaguya through obito's sharingan which was augmented by the sages chakra when obito became the 10 tails jinchuriki,just imagine what might guy would have been able to do if his abilities etc were enhanced by the sages chakra.......I don't mean to sound like I'm over exaggerating or anything but he almost killed jubidara and if he received the sages chakra I reckon he could kill kaguya by himself.
JJ Madara neg 8th gate Gai, he had to be nerfed and get help from Edo Minato, Kakashi, 6th gate Lee, and Gaara to do the damage he did. JJ Madara simply uses Deva path to pull Madara to him and rip out his soul or destroy him with a TSB, or use Susanoo, or absorb all of the chakra from his body to kill him, or use limbo, or use CT. Gai's power isn't even on Edo Madara's level let alone alive Madara. Gai's 8th gate is overhype, proof is all in the manga; Gai had to go 5th and 6th gate to fight a Kisame clone who had 7.5% of his chakra (he had 30% but made 3 clones and clones evenly split your chakra).
 

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JJ Madara neg 8th gate Gai, he had to be nerfed and get help from Edo Minato, Kakashi, 6th gate Lee, and Gaara to do the damage he did. JJ Madara simply uses Deva path to pull Madara to him and rip out his soul or destroy him with a TSB, or use Susanoo, or absorb all of the chakra from his body to kill him, or use limbo, or use CT. Gai's power isn't even on Edo Madara's level let alone alive Madara. Gai's 8th gate is overhype, proof is all in the manga; Gai had to go 5th and 6th gate to fight a Kisame clone who had 7.5% of his chakra (he had 30% but made 3 clones and clones evenly split your chakra).
Well if you're going to get that technical, Madara did have his, Hashirama's (including Sage), Hagoromo's and the Juubi's power in him. Gai's abilities with the eight gates was all him.

If you took regular Prime Madara, 100% himself & put him against 8 Gates Gai it would be a MUCH better fight. Why? Madara having one, maybe two of those perks would be reasonable (or a bhiju with him), but he used all of his power like a crutch & didn't use it NEARLY as effeciently as he should have. It made Madara's part of the fight seem bland.
 

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JJ Madara neg 8th gate Gai, he had to be nerfed and get help from Edo Minato, Kakashi, 6th gate Lee, and Gaara to do the damage he did. JJ Madara simply uses Deva path to pull Madara to him and rip out his soul or destroy him with a TSB, or use Susanoo, or absorb all of the chakra from his body to kill him, or use limbo, or use CT. Gai's power isn't even on Edo Madara's level let alone alive Madara. Gai's 8th gate is overhype, proof is all in the manga; Gai had to go 5th and 6th gate to fight a Kisame clone who had 7.5% of his chakra (he had 30% but made 3 clones and clones evenly split your chakra).
Cuz madara totally didnt have help right? He had the juubi, hashi's sage mode which made him OP as hell just from that. And plus his limbo on top of that. You people are ignorant
 

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Well if you're going to get that technical, Madara did have his, Hashirama's (including Sage), Hagoromo's and the Juubi's power in him. Gai's abilities with the eight gates was all him.

If you took regular Prime Madara, 100% himself & put him against 8 Gates Gai it would be a MUCH better fight. Why? Madara having one, maybe two of those perks would be reasonable (or a bhiju with him), but he used all of his power like a crutch & didn't use it NEARLY as effeciently as he should have. It made Madara's part of the fight seem bland.
EMS Madara could beat 8th gate Gai... Edo Madara whose power is weaker than when he was alive, called fighting the 5 Kages child's play and he was not one bit serious. Sasuke with EMS was starting to be able to track JJ Obito and he's been using the EMS for a couple of hours where as Madara had it for at least months. Not to mention Madara's MS jutsus and that Gai isn't getting past PS so either Madara kills Gai or the 8th gate runs out plus Madara can reflect the damage back to Gai using his fan. Tobirama, EMS Madara, and Hashirama are about 3 or so levels above Kage level so no I don't see Gai beating any of them. Tobirama was held as the fastest in his time which included Madara and Hashirama; he also killed Izuna who Obito said was even with MS Madara which isn't far from EMS level.

As for Madara's powerups, he fought Hashirama in a death match to get Hashirama's cell and his skills and smarts got him the Juubi. He had the skills to use those powerups as great as he did. The gates are a powerup, each gate gives you access to use more of your chakra at once which you can use to increase your speed (Shunshin) and power. Yes you train to be able to use them but you have to train to learn SM, train to use Bijuu power, train to master jutsus and skills so it all falls in the same category. If SM is a powerup then so is using the gates which removes chakra limiters; it's only an internal powerup is all.
 

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Cuz madara totally didnt have help right? He had the juubi, hashi's sage mode which made him OP as hell just from that. And plus his limbo on top of that. You people are ignorant
Oh so Hashirama's cells and the Juubi were fighting in that fight with Madara too? Yeah I thought so, the gates are a powerup just like SM and Bijuus since it literally powers you up. EMS Madara can beat 8th gate Gai. Madara didn't use Limbo on Gai; he wasn't using Susanoo, Deva path, Asura path, Pretha path, Katon jutsu, wood jutsu, or anything. He only used TSB as a shield. Gai isn't getting past EMS Madara's PS which tanked Kurama's TBB and his legged Susanoo withstood the Juubi's Storm.
 

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Oh so Hashirama's cells and the Juubi were fighting in that fight with Madara too? Yeah I thought so, the gates are a powerup just like SM and Bijuus since it literally powers you up. EMS Madara can beat 8th gate Gai. Madara didn't use Limbo on Gai; he wasn't using Susanoo, Deva path, Asura path, Pretha path, Katon jutsu, wood jutsu, or anything. He only used TSB as a shield. Gai isn't getting past EMS Madara's PS which tanked Kurama's TBB and his legged Susanoo withstood the Juubi's Storm.
He regenerated faster because of hashi's sage mode healing. He had the power of most of the juubi, he was basically the sage of six paths. Gai's 8 gates is HIS power. Saying that gai cant beat ems madara is just plain stupid. Gai destroys his susanoo no problem.
 

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He regenerated faster because of hashi's sage mode healing. He had the power of most of the juubi, he was basically the sage of six paths. Gai's 8 gates is HIS power. Saying that gai cant beat ems madara is just plain stupid. Gai destroys his susanoo no problem.
Madara got those injuries because he wasn't using any of his jutsus that would have stopped it. JJ Madara was using the Juubi's regenerating power, and he lost SM the moment he became the JJ. The Juubi transforms the host body so Madara lost Hashirama's face that was on his chest which held Hashirama's Senjutsu. So you're saying Gai has power greater than a Bijuu's TBB or the Juubi's Storm attack? Yeah no way. JJ Obito is faster than 8th gate Gai and EMS can see that speed, Madara mastered his eyes unlike Sasuke who could see JJ Obito. EMS Madara Susanoo withstood this and had Full Kurama as his summon which is not Madara using its power as a Jinchuuriki.

Madara can make 25 shadow clones and have each use Susanoo V3. Madara's fan reflects the damage dealt back to the attack so Gai would be beating himself up. No the 8 gates is not Gai's power because all chakra comes from the Juubi/God Tree just like the Sharingan, Rinnegan, wood KKG, and such. You act like Madara was just handed his powerups, he actually went out and got Hashirama's cells and fought all Bijuus and captured them all himself. You can argue EMS but he was fighting in a war and lost his brother to get them and have mastered them.
 

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Madara got those injuries because he wasn't using any of his jutsus that would have stopped it. JJ Madara was using the Juubi's regenerating power, and he lost SM the moment he became the JJ. The Juubi transforms the host body so Madara lost Hashirama's face that was on his chest which held Hashirama's Senjutsu. So you're saying Gai has power greater than a Bijuu's TBB or the Juubi's Storm attack? Yeah no way. JJ Obito is faster than 8th gate Gai and EMS can see that speed, Madara mastered his eyes unlike Sasuke who could see JJ Obito. EMS Madara Susanoo withstood this and had Full Kurama as his summon which is not Madara using its power as a Jinchuuriki.

Madara can make 25 shadow clones and have each use Susanoo V3. Madara's fan reflects the damage dealt back to the attack so Gai would be beating himself up. No the 8 gates is not Gai's power because all chakra comes from the Juubi/God Tree just like the Sharingan, Rinnegan, wood KKG, and such. You act like Madara was just handed his powerups, he actually went out and got Hashirama's cells and fought all Bijuus and captured them all himself. You can argue EMS but he was fighting in a war and lost his brother to get them and have mastered them.
Im just gonna drop this silly debate XD the fact that you think ems madara beats 8 gates gai just fascinates me haha. Good luck bud.
 

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JJ Madara neg 8th gate Gai, he had to be nerfed and get help from Edo Minato, Kakashi, 6th gate Lee, and Gaara to do the damage he did. JJ Madara simply uses Deva path to pull Madara to him and rip out his soul or destroy him with a TSB, or use Susanoo, or absorb all of the chakra from his body to kill him, or use limbo, or use CT. Gai's power isn't even on Edo Madara's level let alone alive Madara. Gai's 8th gate is overhype, proof is all in the manga; Gai had to go 5th and 6th gate to fight a Kisame clone who had 7.5% of his chakra (he had 30% but made 3 clones and clones evenly split your chakra).


1. With the Sage's chakra, he would be able to sense Limbo Madara Clones
2. He got help from other people, but this does not mean he would NEED their help once he had the Sage's Chakra
3. Deva Path barely worked on Naruto... it couldn't handle Gai in 7 or 8 gates! It def would not effect Gai in Sage Mode.
4. To absorb Gai's chakra he would have to get TOO CLOSE to a Taijutsu master... think about it.
5. Regardless of what you think, Opening Gates is something that Gai trained to obtain and it was not stolen or borrowed from anyone like the Juubi, Hashirama, EMS (his brother's eyes), etc. You know good damn well if Gai also had the Sage's Chakra he would be a F'ing problem against Madara. And Gai without the Sage's Power would still hold his own against EMS Madara in 7 Gates, 8 Gate Gai would wreck shop on EMS Madara. His only option would be to stall Gai out until he ran out of chakra and died, you know this.

You are severely underestimating Might Gai... especially since the thread is about him having the Sage's Chakra.
 
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1. With the Sage's chakra, he would be able to sense Limbo Madara Clones
2. He got help from other people, but this does not mean he would NEED their help once he had the Sage's Chakra
3. Deva Path barely worked on Naruto... it couldn't handle Gai in 7 or 8 gates! It def would not effect Gai in Sage Mode.
4. To absorb Gai's chakra he would have to get TOO CLOSE to a Taijutsu master... think about it.

You are severely underestimating Might Gai... especially since the thread is about him with the Sage's Chakra.
1) Incorrect, just having Rikudo chakra doesn't allow you to sense Limbos, Sasuke had the Rinnegan and Hagoromo's Yin chakra which allowed him to see the Limbos while Naruto had Yin Kurama's+SM+Hagoromo's Yang chakra; both Modes have sensory abilities and the Yang chakra (Rikudo Senjutsu chakra) allowed Naruto to sense the Limbos. Both had abilities that were enhanced to see/sense Limbos.

2) just by getting Sage chakra doesn't mean he would be at that level, he would be more at Hashirama's and EMS Madara level. The fact that he needed 5th and 6th gates to beat a Kisame clone who started off with 30% his chakra then split his chakra 1/4th after he made 3 clones to hold down Neji, Lee, and Tenten. JJ Madara was nerfed is all, Rinnegan Madara would just use BT to pull Gai (he doesn't have chakra arms to prevent it like KM Naruto) and rip out his soul to neg Gai. He was tracking Gai's movements with the Rinnegan but he had 1 eye which means he had half the field of vision.

3) Madara never used it on Naruto. Deva Pein uses it on Naruto after Nagato was weakened and used up a ton of his chakra. Edo Nagato used it on KM Naruto before he was rejuvenated from Bee's Bijuu chakra and Edo's are weaker than when they were alive and even then Naruto said Edo Nagato used the jutsus faster and stronger than when the Peins used them. Plus Obito mentions how the power of the Rinnegan is greater when used by the true owner and how the true power is awakened when you have both eyes; he told Sakura this in his Kamui dimension. Edo Madara used Deba path's BT with his Susanoo to pull huge meteors down which freaked out Naruto, Gaara, Oonoki, and everyone else in that platoon. Alive Madara is stronger than Edo Madara plus the Bijuus noted that alive Madara had the real Rinnegan which means the real Rinnegans are more powerful. Madara using the same ST as Deva path when he pushed 3 giant toads miles away from him would kill Gai; it broke Gamabuta's bones and the gates injures Gai's body as well.

4) that's why he has BT which pulls you towards him, a weaker Madara (Edo Madara) pulled down meteors....Gai isn't preventing that. When you get BT it pulls your body with your arms and legs in the back as it shows you being pulled as shown with Kakashi and KM Naruto. It took chakra arms to stop BT from Edo Nagato and Madara is more powerful with the Rinnegans.

Having Rikudo chakra does not makes you levels upon levels stronger. Naruto had BSM to put him on a level that could fight JJ Obito just like how Sasuke had EMS plus got chakra from Naruto and Juugo's Senjutsu to fight against JJ Obito. They both were given half of Hagoromo's chakra which granted them abilities of abilities they already had. Hagoromo's Yin chakra gave Sasuke 6T Rinnegan while Hagoromo's Yang chakra gave Naruto Rikudo Senjutsu which lets him access Rikudo Sage Mode. Gai isn't from Either Uchiha, Senju, or Uzumaki clan (so not a Transmigrator) to have similar abilities awakened.
 
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